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2006-06-20 Iraq

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Posted by ed 2006-06-20 07:04|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 That strikes me as a major mistake on someone's part. Good hunting to our guys!

Posted by trailing wife 2006-06-20 07:18|| 2006-06-20 07:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Story now crossing the wires goes from bad to worse ... the soldiers bodies bore evidence of torture and apparent beheading. When will the US military utilize the technology of implantable GPS locators? Enough is enough.

Posted by doc 2006-06-20 07:55|| 2006-06-20 07:55|| Front Page Top

#3 And they complain about Gitmo.

Posted by plainslow 2006-06-20 08:12|| 2006-06-20 08:12|| Front Page Top

#4 No mercy.

Posted by DarthVader 2006-06-20 08:12|| 2006-06-20 08:12|| Front Page Top

#5 When those who did are captured, remember to give them Korans and prayer mats, halal meals, cable TV and speak to them in respectful voices.

Posted by ed 2006-06-20 08:13|| 2006-06-20 08:13|| Front Page Top

#6 And of course NBC news manages to rummage around and find a moonbat uncle of one of the troops who blames this all on Bush - believe it or not - because he "... not paying a ransom to the kidnappers from the money seized from Saddam"

I amd sick and f*cking tired of the incessant anti-Bush spin in the media! They haven't even fully ID'd the bodies, and here is NBC trying to spin the whole thing into an anti-bush storyby finding the ONE realtive of a soldier that will dance like a little puppet for their cause.

When will there be accountability for the PRESS?

Posted by Oldspook 2006-06-20 08:24|| 2006-06-20 08:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Post-mortem, OS. In the eulogies we can all pretend they were relevant...

Posted by Shoter Sheresing5396 2006-06-20 08:28|| 2006-06-20 08:28|| Front Page Top

#8 If this is so, We are going to Patton mode. GTMO will become "Extradite to any country that will kill them" mo.

Allan will beome dirt.

Posted by newc">newc 2006-06-20 08:59|| 2006-06-20 08:59|| Front Page Top

#9 The next step is going to be the circulation of a deathporn video. And we need to make clear that anyone we catch in the possession of such a video dies on the spot.

Posted by Matt 2006-06-20 09:09|| 2006-06-20 09:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Locate anyone associated with this 5-way alqeada council or their members and kill them and all associated with them. I would support carrying this out to entire towns.

Posted by jds 2006-06-20 09:41|| 2006-06-20 09:41|| Front Page Top

#11 So tell me again how terrible we handle 'their' prisoners? So tell me again how the media play up of every ouchee and imperfect processing didn't motivate those butchers? So tell me if there is enough circumstantial evidence for the survivors of these men to hire a trial lawyer to bring MSM [read - deep pockets] to court for creating a hostile atmosphere by lie, distortion, and misrepresentation that contributed to manner of their son/husband's death?

Posted by Whereling Whish1824 2006-06-20 09:44|| 2006-06-20 09:44|| Front Page Top

#12 Doc said "the soldiers bodies bore evidence of torture and apparent beheading."

No video though. Either the a**holes who did this didn't have a camera or they could get no usable footage to display. I'm pissed that our guys had to die, but my first guess is that they died well. (Which is all any of us can really hope for)

RIP

Posted by Cheart Crash4692 2006-06-20 09:46|| 2006-06-20 09:46|| Front Page Top

#13 I dearly hope the torture part is but a rumor.

Of course like you guys Im waiting for the UN, Amnesty Int, the ACLU to lodge moral outrage and submit writs to the World Court at the Haig over this outrage.

and Thank You NBC for condeming the Muslimes who murdered our men and for expressing solidarity with our Armed Forces.

We really appreciate the fact that you selflessly lent your time and ink so that Ken MacKenzie the anti-Bush relative could get a few digs in.

How could we do without you traitors at NBC.
______________________________________

To Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, and Army Pfc. Thomas Lowell Tucker

Thank you men, you are the best our Nations has, we are so fortunate to have men and women like you. RIP.

Posted by RD 2006-06-20 09:47|| 2006-06-20 09:47|| Front Page Top

#14 Wonder how long untill the snuff film materializes?

We are going to have to break these tribal primitives, like our great grandfathers did.
We are going to have to get used to the outraged squeals of the self riteous twits while we are doing it too. Oh well, no one said it was going to be easy.

Posted by N guard 2006-06-20 10:09|| 2006-06-20 10:09|| Front Page Top

#15
"...technology of implantable GPS locators?"

There is NO such thing! If you disagree, post a credible link to the technology.

As for the two soldiers, may they rest in peace.

I have always advocated a scorched earth policy vis-a-vis the Mohammedan terrorists. A ratio of 100 to 1 seems about right.

Round them up.

-M

Posted by Manolo 2006-06-20 10:12|| 2006-06-20 10:12|| Front Page Top

#16 I hope this is a lesson to our soldiers. Do not ever, ever surrender to these savages.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al">Frozen Al 2006-06-20 10:22|| 2006-06-20 10:22|| Front Page Top

#17 Also, do not ever take prisoners.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats 2006-06-20 10:37|| 2006-06-20 10:37|| Front Page Top

#18 There is NO such thing! If you disagree, post a credible link to the technology.

BUT! BUT!!! It was in an episode of 24!

Pfeh. Thanks for saying what I was too disgusted to say, Manolo.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-06-20 10:39|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-06-20 10:39|| Front Page Top

#19 Where are the B-52's? Why do we continue to put up with this kak? DESTROY THEM!

Posted by Besoeker 2006-06-20 11:03|| 2006-06-20 11:03|| Front Page Top

#20 Captains Quarters is following, and updating, a story that indicates we may have bagged a few more of the "high ranking" morons from alQueda during the past 3 days.

I sure hopes it's true...and that we, uh, treat them "kindly". Which is to say I hope those questioning them wear white gloves while holdingt needle-nose pliers. And other such thoughtful gestures.

Posted by Justrand 2006-06-20 11:43|| 2006-06-20 11:43|| Front Page Top

#21 A major error going in was not comprehending how primitive these tribal cultures are. They are never going to behave as we expect them to. They care nothing for our beliefs and we cannot tolerate theirs. They understand brutal force. Saddam understood this much. This administration thought they could do things on the cheap. A decision must be made. Do we allow these bastards to carry on ? If so, get our people out of there. If we really think it's necessary to stay, turn our guys loose. Keep the F**kin' press out of there. Annihilate these bastards until entire areas are completely depopulated. They will learn to respect that even if they don't like it.

Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-06-20 11:45|| 2006-06-20 11:45|| Front Page Top

#22 Bad business, but nothing new. Carry on.

Posted by 6 2006-06-20 11:55|| 2006-06-20 11:55|| Front Page Top

#23 I suspect that the ratio of dead to EPWs is going to go way up.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 12:01|| 2006-06-20 12:01|| Front Page Top

#24 "#18 There is NO such thing! If you disagree, post a credible link to the technology.

BUT! BUT!!! It was in an episode of 24!"

But! But!!!I saw it in the local newspaper, with an AP photo, to accompany the story.

Posted by Danielle 2006-06-20 12:07|| 2006-06-20 12:07|| Front Page Top

#25 We don't send our children, Mr. Justice. Our men and women choose to forgo more lucrative careers in order to volunteer to protect our freedoms at home and abroad. There was an article here the other day about a gentleman from my part of the world, a surgeon, who at somewhere beyond the age of 70 years is the oldest reservist serving in Iraq (I believe he's put in two tours over there already). He is a double volunteer: first as a reservist for the past several decades, and then he had to argue to be allowed to go overseas when his unit was called up -- the seniour officers wanted to excuse him from going.

The link for the Captain's Quarters blog is up this page in the right margin, or just click here

Posted by trailing wife 2006-06-20 12:10|| 2006-06-20 12:10|| Front Page Top

#26 Clearly that should have been "Mr. Justice Troll".

Fast work, moderators. Apparently you got your orders from your Zionist overlords earlier today. Nice to see they've finally gotten themselves organized. ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-06-20 12:12|| 2006-06-20 12:12|| Front Page Top

#27 Obviously this was intended as a kidnapping. If they wound up killing the men then the kidnapping failed. Probably more heat than they bargained for and they decided to abort and run.

You don't just grab 2 US soldiers. There would be some really good intel and some special operators involved.

Probably didn't pick thier targets at random either.

We lost 2 good men. At the same time we busted an enemy operation with a lot of resources put into it. Here's hoping we roll up the lads who did this and ask them some questions real friendly like.

Posted by Iblis">Iblis 2006-06-20 12:22|| 2006-06-20 12:22|| Front Page Top

#28 doc--I don't know where you're getting this "implantable GPS locator" stuff from. GPS signals are designed to be received, just like FM radio broadcasts. If you want to transmit your position, you need completely different hardware in addition to the receiver. And then you need a power supply to top it all off.

You're not going to be compacting and concealing all that in some implant.

Posted by Dar">Dar 2006-06-20 12:26|| 2006-06-20 12:26|| Front Page Top

#29 You're not going to be compacting and concealing all that in some implant.

Any such device would be EXTREMELY low-power. So you'd need to be close -- with nothing between you and the transmitter -- to pick it up. Now, I'm not sure how detectable it would be -- I seem to recall some advantages to spread-spectrum technology when it comes to RDF, but I could be wrong -- but it also means your soldiers would be radio emitters.

Then you have the problem of how well the GPS receiver would work. My (commercial, hand-held) GPS receiver can't pick up any satellites from inside my house, has problems in urban areas, and occasionally loses lock underneath heavy tree cover. An implantable receiver would have an even shorter antenna, and less power for its amplifier; odds are it would have more problems getting a signal.

So even if you COULD build an implantable GPS receiver and a data transmitter that could be implanted, then it could be defeated by just putting the captives in a basement.

Danielle, I dunno what the AP was reporting on, but I don't trust reporters in general with technical information.

What MIGHT be possible is a device that works something like RF tags -- the "detector" unit sends out a pulse, the implanted thingy picks up the pulse and responds with a code. No constant transmission, the implanted thingy is powered from the trigger pulse, etc. Problem is, it wouldn't be able to use GPS, and you'd still have to get pretty close to the target before you could trigger or pick up the response.

As for the jihadis -- kill them all.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-06-20 12:41|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-06-20 12:41|| Front Page Top

#30 Iblis: They actual tactic used by the Jihadis was to stage an attack to draw off two of the three vehicles in the squad, and then use the bulk of their forces to attack and overwhelm the remaining vehicle. If they were able to put enough fire power on the target vehicle, they may have been able to kill or disable everyone in it before they could get on the radio.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 12:48|| 2006-06-20 12:48|| Front Page Top

#31 11A5S:

Obviously I'm speculating. But starting off, wouldn't you agree the intention was to snag the soldiers? And if that was the intention, isn't it likely that killing their captives indicates something went wrong.

Re: GPS

Those implantable tags for pets (e.g. AVID) have a range of just a few feet. They get their power from the scanning device, so no battery is implanted.

Posted by Iblis">Iblis 2006-06-20 13:19|| 2006-06-20 13:19|| Front Page Top

#32 JUSTICE: Go away. You're from a dying culture. You can't make clean water, medicines, or modern weapons. 40 years from now, my grand children will fly to Dar al Islam to see your surviving grandchildren put on quaint tourist shows of how Muslims used to live, complete with veiled women, and eyeball rolling mujihideen shooting blank-filled AK-47s in the air.

Your culture is dying. You have no literature, no science, and no art. You "god" has failed you. Everywhere you look, the ummah is adopting my culture: wearing wearing our clothes, listening to Western music, coming to our schools for the education that they can't get in from Muslim "universities." Soon the Muslims will follow the God of Love instead of your silly tribal war god. You are irrelevant. You and your barbaric, tribal culture are drying up. Soon the wind will come and blow you away.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 13:19|| 2006-06-20 13:19|| Front Page Top

#33 Iblis: No disagreement. It was a hostage snatch. I was just clarifying how it was done.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 13:22|| 2006-06-20 13:22|| Front Page Top

#34 Justice, I would advise you to go back and look at your history. The timeline doesn't work. The Crusades ended long before the U.S. was even an idea. You are being intellectually dishonest with your analogy. The British took part yes, but the U.S. had to kick thier ass for our freedom too. You might know that already, I cannot tell for sure.
The only possible way to say we (the U.S.)took part in the Crusades is if you don't mean the U.S., you would have to mean white people not the U.S.
Is that it Justice? Are you an idiot or a racist?

Posted by Mike N. 2006-06-20 13:34|| 2006-06-20 13:34|| Front Page Top

#35 LOL. The difference is that we kept progressing while you're still teaching and reading the same 800 year old texts.

As I sit here taking a sip of our clean, clorinated water fresh from the tap, I am reminded of how once when I was in Cairo, I saw a young child dip a pail in an open sewer and take it inside his house. We may be decadent, but at least we care enough about our children that they don't have to drink poison from sewers.

BTW, I'd love to live in a world where 90% of all atrocities aren't committed by Muslims, so Rantburg didn't have to exist.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 13:36|| 2006-06-20 13:36|| Front Page Top

#36 According to Rush - 3 Humvees, 2 went chasing, their HV was swarmed, driver shot dead, they didn't fight back(!)

Layed down and surrendered.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-20 13:47|| 2006-06-20 13:47|| Front Page Top

#37 11A5S, your little tale reminds me why Mr. Wife never let me join him on his trips to that part of the world -- he was convinced I wouldn't be able to handle such real poverty. He told of people living on the grassy strip on the Cairo highways, in one room hovels made of dry stacked cement blocks. Periodically, he said, he would notice that one of the hovels had fallen in, killing the inhabitants, and another family would be stoically taking the blocks to build a hovel of their own. Granted that was in the mid-1980s, so perhaps things have changed now.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-06-20 13:59|| 2006-06-20 13:59|| Front Page Top

#38 Trailing Wife,
If anything, they've gotten worse.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al">Frozen Al 2006-06-20 14:18|| 2006-06-20 14:18|| Front Page Top

#39 What's really got to be galling, JUSTICE, is that given you litany, your children choose our culture 99% of the time over your non-decadent theocracy. It's the modern world and it wins every time, bwahahahaha.

And the reason is we face our problems straight up and deal with people as they are, not as some seventh century gibberish from a pederast says they should be.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-06-20 14:23|| 2006-06-20 14:23|| Front Page Top

#40 TW: It's a nasty part of the world. It will continue to be nasty until the cultures that hold human life in such low regard are destroyed or changed. The waste of human potential there and in other places causes me more sorrow than I can ever express here.

I for one have never why instead of declaring war on their neighbors, the autocrats like Nasser and Ghadaffi never declare war on dirty water or open sewers. Aside from the fact that they don't give a damn, taking care of basic human needs seems like a sure fire way to create jobs and ensuring regime success. Truly, one cannot be human and drive from one's palace every day, see that sort of suffering, have the power to end it, refuse to do anything about it (and blame it on "Jews" and "imperialists"), and then return home each night to feast and sleep in a soft bed.

I always laugh when folks come here and accuse us of dehumanizing the "other." They've done quite enough to dehumanize themselve without me exerting any effort at all.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 14:24|| 2006-06-20 14:24|| Front Page Top

#41 Justice: The straw men you set up are so easily knocked over. We report here all the time about molesting mullahs and the intertribal rapes that go on in Dar al Islam. The difference is that we have a free press, discuss our problems openly, and then work to find solutions. Sometimes the discussion get messy, but that is what happens in a free society.

In your world, nothing gets discussed and nothing gets solved because all that is bad is smothered by the cloak of shame. That's why you are ruled by strongmen and cannot make a washing machine.

I sometimes think it is our lack of shame that really enrages the Muslim world. Not our success or permissiveness, or freedom, or unveiled women. Everytime they read something or hear something from the West, it is simply so alien, so outrageous, that the only way they can deal with it is by lashing out.

Posted by 11A5S 2006-06-20 14:39|| 2006-06-20 14:39|| Front Page Top

#42 Justice lives in an inbreeding bubble country, he just doesn't get it.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-20 14:39|| 2006-06-20 14:39|| Front Page Top

#43
"Layed down and surrendered."

Or...they could have been in shock at the sudden death of the driver, and the speed with which they were captured.

Still, nasty business. Let's hope that their comrades learn a serious tactical lesson from this.

As someone else said, no prisoners.

EU

Posted by Elminerong Uloque4172 2006-06-20 14:41|| 2006-06-20 14:41|| Front Page Top

#44 In a couple years, I have to teach my girls the next phase of staying away from strangers.

If he gets you in his car, you will die and most likely very painfully. Fight with all you've got and go for the groin, eyes and nose.

I really have to sign them up for karate classes.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-20 14:46|| 2006-06-20 14:46|| Front Page Top

#45 I read a couple of Justices' comments, and really didn't think they needed to be deleted by the mods. I didn't read them all though, I admit.

I am wondering if anyone else thought they could have stayed.

I could just be pining?) for the days of Murat I guess.

Posted by Mike N. 2006-06-20 14:59|| 2006-06-20 14:59|| Front Page Top

#46 doc,
I've searched the news archives and my files and cannot find the article about implantable GPS but I know I read it. It wasn't about the RFID chips, although they were also referenced in another article. Implantable GPS would put an end to these kidnappings and eliminate this sub-culture in short order. I think the innovative company was located in Florida, but our local Rockwell plant manufactures tiny modules for US military applications and the article could have been just for local interest. I vaguely remember them mentioning lost kids as a potential application, but if it is still sci-fi, we should have the technological know-how to manufacture it. Maybe I should have searched "magic dust", as this would not be something we would want to advertise. Can you imagine the ACLU screaming bloody murder over violating privacy rights of these poor disenfranchised jihadis?

Posted by Danielle 2006-06-20 15:39|| 2006-06-20 15:39|| Front Page Top

#47 Mod note: we're trolling 'Justice'. He glories in the deaths of American soldiers, and that's a red-line issue for us.

AoS

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-06-20 16:01|| 2006-06-20 16:01|| Front Page Top

#48 Hi Barks_Like_A_Dog,
Are you satisfied with your Saudi proxy account? I was considering getting one for the kids. You know no porn, etc., though they do have an unfortunate tendency to anti-jewish, arabo-supremist and nazi propaganda, so I can see why you would like them.

PS. Ever considering converting? Islamo-Commie-Nazi convergence is all the rage nowadays.

Posted by ed 2006-06-20 16:03|| 2006-06-20 16:03|| Front Page Top

#49 Whatever happened to Murat? Was there an apocaplyptic flame war that ended with him vowing never to return to rantburg? Or did he get banned? Or did he simply stop posting?

Posted by Pat Phillips 2006-06-20 16:05|| 2006-06-20 16:05|| Front Page Top

#50 I don't recall him ever being banned; I think he just stopped posting.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-06-20 16:10|| 2006-06-20 16:10|| Front Page Top

#51 UPDATE
Fox reports the bodies were boody trapped, which probably means they were cut open, some organs taken out, and replaced with explosives.

Hopefully, they were already dead when this happened.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al">Frozen Al 2006-06-20 16:24|| 2006-06-20 16:24|| Front Page Top

#52 Lets see what Bush does. I think he should make a very public statement that the 'insurgancy' will no longer receive the protection of the Geneva Convention.

Then execute every known terrorsts being held in GITMO and every other installation.

Unfortunately he will probably come out with that 'Islam is a peaceful religion' bullshit again.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-06-20 16:42|| 2006-06-20 16:42|| Front Page Top

#53 Local TV stations in Albuquerque were giving (as of noon 6/20) far more coverage to the 3 US soldiers charged with murder than to the 3 US soldiers murdered this week by terrorists.

Posted by Hupatch Flomolet2475 2006-06-20 16:51|| 2006-06-20 16:51|| Front Page Top

#54 Of course. If we were not in Iraq, the poor, repressed Jihadis wouldn't have to do those horrible things to us.

It's all our fault!

Posted by Bobby 2006-06-20 17:23|| 2006-06-20 17:23|| Front Page Top

#55 Yeah, HF2475 I turn on the local news for 5 or 7 minutes to get the info on murders, DUI vehicular homicides, robberies, rapes, corrupt local government employees, kids setting the bosque on fire, etc. Find out again what Mexican national did last night [fight, robbery, rape] that sent him running for the border. It's a quagmire isn't it. When they start mouthing national news, I just switch to another channel. I gather my national/international off the web. Notice how the local Albuquerque news outlets spent as little time as possible a year or so back when the guards at the BCDC expended an evening beating up the inmates? Nothing like the amount of coverage of Abu Ghrab. Couldn't be anything to do with the County/City government mainly controlled by Dems, could it?

Posted by Whereling Whish1824 2006-06-20 17:44|| 2006-06-20 17:44|| Front Page Top

#56 Dog_Bites_Brick loves his virtual throbe and longs to lern of the 8th pillar.

Posted by 6 2006-06-20 18:02|| 2006-06-20 18:02|| Front Page Top

#57 Soon the wind will come and blow you away.

Muslims will be able to consider themselves quite fortunate if that "wind" isn't at near-solar temperatures.

Posted by Zenster 2006-06-20 18:19|| 2006-06-20 18:19|| Front Page Top

#58 anonymous2u, I don't know how old your children are, but you'll want them to start learning karate by sixth grade, if they're to be black belts (anything less isn't likely to result in them being able to consistently protect themselves) by the time they know boys who are serious about dating. Ideally, the parents should study at the same school -- there's nothing like sparring with Mom and Dad, and seeing Mom&Dad sparring each other, to take it out of the realm of puppies playing. (Not me, I can't actually hit people deliberately, but I helped them learn stances and their forms.) Besides, I've never seen Mr. Wife as proud as the first time trailing daughter#1 got past his guard to kick him in the ear. Not to mention the politeness of all the boys after she did a board breaking demonstration at the Freshman Talent Show -- much more effective than the other two kids who performed forms from their various styles of martial arts.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-06-20 18:28|| 2006-06-20 18:28|| Front Page Top

#59 Krav Maga is the way to go for self defense.

Posted by Rafael 2006-06-20 18:34|| 2006-06-20 18:34|| Front Page Top

#60 No 37 from Mike hits the nail squarely. Islamic Racists. Their prejuduces expose them by their lack of understanding of anything. Their barbaric acts do not belong in this world. Kill the scum.

Rest in peace, departed comrades, and easy. Your deaths are not wasted, you shall live on, even as we speak your names forever.

Posted by rhodesiafever">rhodesiafever 2006-06-20 20:32|| 2006-06-20 20:32|| Front Page Top

#61 ey, we Christains are reading some 1700-2000 year old stuff(new testament) and some of it 3000-4000 or more years old (Old Testament).

Didnt stop us. Then again, our God requires us to love and help one another - not be mindless slaves or headchoppers.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-06-20 22:34|| 2006-06-20 22:34|| Front Page Top

#62 Krav Maga if you are young and strong.

But if you want to win every time and dont care about killing or maiming the opponent, then Pencak Silat - Bela Diri style.

The latter is the only art I've ever seen that can take any other MA style out in a hurry, even Krav practitioners end up whupped by a pesilat of equal or even slightly lower skill. Indonesian instructors are usually best for this, but there are some hellacious Dutch former spec-ops types that teach now in the US.

If you dont want a fairly complex and violent MA for your kid but one that is still effective then Aikido is the way to go.

I've used Aikido techniques in many situations and can attest that they do work (discard the Steven Segal stuff you see in his movies - its exaggerated as hell, and flat out wrong in places due to Segal being all about personality not technique back when he was trying to be famous). Yes, I'd still get handled by a pesilat in a contest, and probably by a Krav practitioner - but thats in a formal contest wher the objective is to beat the other guy.

Then again if Im up against one of those in RL, I give up any pretense of fighting them to keep from killing them, and simply shoot them. If I have enough distance, no martal art in this world will save you from my hollowpoints - and I do practice in "fun house" situations with live ammo frequently enough every year, as well as the 250 rounds I go to the range with last saturday of every month firing 25 x 10r magazines, including some single handed, off-hand, from the hip rocked-back in a retention posture, etc I even have 3 trainign rounds placed randomly in my mags for my when they are loaded - so I have to deal with an unexpected stop-n-clear. "You fight like you train" is a very valuable lesson I learend from an old vietnam combat vet squad leader in my first unit. hatred him for being hard, but loved him when it saved my ass later on.

If unarmed then my goal is escape with or without debilitating my opponent, which does work as a countergoal given they want to hurt me and will be forced onto the agressive role which gives an aikidoist some advantages. Enough of that and back to the topic at hand.

Aikido is excellent in terms of learning leverage, jointlocks, pain adminstration (we call it "nerve stimulation" heh), breaking free from holds/grapples, avoiding or deflecting strikes and controllign a larger opponent or number of opponents. The good thing for smaller folks is that Aikido was designed for use against larger more massive opponents who are agressive - you use their strenght size and mass and agression to assist you in defeating them. The big thing about Aikido for kids is that (assuming it is tuaght well) it emhasizes Situational Awareness so you dont get surprised. 90% of winning vs an attack is being aware of the potential for one and positoning yourself so as to prevent it or give yoruself large advantages that even the attacker can't help but notice. The right mindset goes a long way.

And a good thing is that Akido is routinely well taught to children in most reputable Dojos - just be sure you dont go to one of the "Mystical Ki Merchant" types. If they start by telling you about doing "Ki" exercises and extending Ki, then walk out - they teach garbage. Go with what O-Sensei taught: Motion and Sweat are the only things that work.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-06-20 23:04|| 2006-06-20 23:04|| Front Page Top

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