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2005-01-20 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-20 12:49:18 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 A most excellent rant. Fred's, that is. Bravo!

Posted by BH 2005-01-20 1:28:31 PM|| 2005-01-20 1:28:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I think this was the plot to "Escape From Los Angeles". Boy, did that movie suck...

Posted by tu3031 2005-01-20 1:30:53 PM|| 2005-01-20 1:30:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 They still don't get the Redland stuff do they. Hip, In, Snide. Just the fine qualities of such drivel mongers that's going to get the voters back on your side. Oh more, please, more. [insert Doctor Evil laugh here].

Posted by Snoluck Throlusing8634 2005-01-20 1:35:25 PM|| 2005-01-20 1:35:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 It's another four years for a leader who considers himself as God's own prophet,

Lie.

a man who says he can't even imagine someone serving in the White House "without a relationship with the Lord."

Taken out of context and distorted into a lie.

Like it or not, we have a president who just convinced half a nation that Republicans and Republicans alone have a clear-channel, exclusive pipeline to God.

Lie.

FOR CRISSAKE YOU BLUE-BRAINED IDIOTS, I'M AGNOSTIC AND I WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR KERRY IF YOU HAD HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD.

IT AIN'T ABOUT GOD. IT'S ABOUT TRUST. THE ONLY GODDAMNED THING I TRUST THE DEMOCRATS TO DO IS TREAT ME LIKE SHIT AND PUT MY LIFE AT RISK.

*pant*

*pant*

Sorry. Had to vent.

Like I said, I'm not at all religious. But the vitriol coming from the left, aimed towards religious people, is making me sick. LGF is called "racist" and "Nazi" for making bad remarks about Islamofascist thugs; these asshats are going after people who, quite honestly, live their lives in peace and just want to live as they choose.

Hey, if the Religious Right tries to get contraceptives banned -- a common accusation from the left -- or looks like they'll succeed in getting censorship beyond the "family television hour" level, then I'll be working and voting against them. I'm adamantly against teaching "intelligent design" in public schools, too.

But right now, the real threats to liberty are coming from the left. Censorship? Let's talk about speech codes, "hate speech", and the incessant desire to control what we can say to one another. Oh, sure, they'll let us blabber endlessly about sex -- but anything more serious, anything that questions their received wisdom, that's verboten.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-01-20 2:04:17 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-01-20 2:04:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks, Robert - you saved me the trouble of ranting. I'll just "amen" yours. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-01-20 2:52:05 PM|| 2005-01-20 2:52:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Amen, and hallelujah.

For Ellis and his ilk, there is always the Kanadian option.

Posted by Mac Suirtain 2005-01-20 3:31:50 PM|| 2005-01-20 3:31:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Ditto, xcept... I'm adamantly against teaching "intelligent design" in public schools, too.

I am agnostic, yet, I don't see any harm. It was a part of my curriculum when I was on a HS level in my old commie country (unfortunately, I moved to another one that s coming rather close in that regard--Canuckistan, which I will rectify soon)--that is... we had course in Philosophy, no it was not elective, yes, they pushed marxism up and down, but still, it was there. Beside course items like Logic, Psychology intro, Sociology intro... And the normal items like Math, Physics, Biology, Chemistry, 2 languages (yes, Russian was mandatory, you could pick the second one), plus one dead one (Latin).
I still had time to chase gurlz and drink myself silly, on ocassion. :-)

Well, since in these times, there is this revulsion againt straining the poor kids' brains, how about ... skipping the intelligent design, but stating that the evolution is a theory, with still big holes in it that tankers can drive through, instead of using terms like "fact", "proven", proclaiming it with the air of religious conviction?

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-01-20 4:16:53 PM|| 2005-01-20 4:16:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Bush ...a leader who considers himself as God's own prophet...

No, that would be Osama or Zarqawi.

Posted by Jules 187 2005-01-20 4:32:51 PM|| 2005-01-20 4:32:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 --that is... we had course in Philosophy no it was not elective, yes, they pushed marxism up and down, but still, it was there.

Different when you're taught "Intelligent Design" as part of a Philosophy class, and when you're taught of it as part of a Science class.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-01-20 5:03:39 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-01-20 5:03:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Aris, is that really you? One of these rare moments to be framed...:-)

Well, anyway, since there is no Philosophy class, Science class may be the best choice at present. Since origins is based on metaphysics anyway (the scientism deux ex machina=big bang ex nihilum), I see the necessity of putting Philosophy back in the curriculum. Science should concern itself with the method and epistemology, rather than waxing poetics, as Rene Descartes originally devised in his Discourse on Method.

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-01-20 5:22:18 PM|| 2005-01-20 5:22:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I've come to think that teaching Intelligent Design in the biology class could have a very beneficial effect. Compare and contrast with the job/process of science, which is to test the testable and devise a theory to explain the results, then devise a test to challenge the theory, to see if it actually works. Intelligent Design by definition is not testable (how do you test for the existence/nonexistence of God the Creator? Can't be done, that's why religions are based on faith.), therefore ID is not science. A valuable lesson for a population that generally doesn't distinguish between science and magic.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-20 10:02:06 PM|| 2005-01-20 10:02:06 PM|| Front Page Top