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2004-07-18 Home Front: WoT

9/11 Panel to Recommend Cabinet Intel Czar

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Posted by .com 2004-07-18 01:08|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1746 views since 2007-05-07] Top

1 Can we PLEASE stop calling these folks Czars or Tsars or whatever? No "Intel Fuerer" either, thanks, or "Intel Commisar" or fucking "Intel Khan"...

FIND A NEW MEME!

Thank you.

Posted by mojo 2004-07-18 1:44:33 AM|| 2004-07-18 1:44:33 AM|| Front Page Top

2 Fearless Intel Leader?

Posted by The Doctor 2004-07-18 12:08:08 PM|| 2004-07-18 12:08:08 PM|| Front Page Top

3 Intel Dear Leader?

More seriously...

Is changing the command structure going to do any good at all as long as the sorts of activities really required to win the war are seen as either illegal or immoral?

AFAICT the agency whose mission most closely matches that of the WW2 OSS or SOE isn't the CIA, or the FBI, or the NRO or NSA, but the Army's Special Forces. But politically, they're seen as just another batch of commandoes, while other agencies (like the CIA, and perhaps the State Department) are seen as the real intelligence groups, and further, are actually seen by many as having the right/responsibility to _set_ policy as much as carry it out. Or so I gather from the Wilson/Plame Affair.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-18 12:19:05 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-07-18 12:19:05 PM|| Front Page Top

4 Phil, the prohibition against wet work went out with 9/11. It does take time to change the institutional attitude, which has favored tech acquisition of intel vs. collecting and acting (competently) on it. The melding of CIA paras and Special Ops worked well in Afghanistan though, didn't it?

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-18 12:36:21 PM|| 2004-07-18 12:36:21 PM|| Front Page Top

5 What Congress needs to realize that you need to set the ground rules for good intel and covert ops that will meet the requirements for getting the job done in these dangerous times. We need to realize that we will have to get our hands dirty in this war.

What we do not need are freelancers. We need highly motivated, highly disciplined people right on down the chain. We will need a kick-ass no BS type leader like Rummy with enough authority to clean house to get rid of the State-type obstructionists.

We don't need no stinkin' Czar, we need a leader with a mandate and the authority to get the mission done.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-18 1:30:01 PM|| 2004-07-18 1:30:01 PM|| Front Page Top

6 Frank: I don't necessarily mean the prohibition against wetwork.

I mean the idea of working with a "resistance" against an enemy government.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-07-18 2:38:31 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-07-18 2:38:31 PM|| Front Page Top

7 gotcha - Iran may topple on its' own, and we could taint that resistance with overt support. Then again, they've conducted actions which constitute acts of war against us for 20 years +, so we can rightly lead the regime change if W chooses. As President Frank (scary thought, huh?) I'd take out that north base where Bin Laden's hiding out at the same time I take out their nuke facilities. Do it and deny with a smile :-)

Posted by Frank G 2004-07-18 2:50:54 PM|| 2004-07-18 2:50:54 PM|| Front Page Top

8 Or a big ol' shit eat'n grin Mr G.

The rote I still keep hearing, even by mike morph, is how we should have put all our resources into the dust bowl that is Afganistan and gotten the criminal bin hoser. Top priority ys say!

I've always have had the feeling that he was out of there by 911.

So will these chirping birds support putting all our resources into going wherever we need to kill the hoser.

On topic, yes, whatever works to un-PC our national defense. A political position though?

Maybe better a military position while the WoT is going on. UMCJ. An expanded role for the Coast Guard of some sort.

I hate that czar crap too. Pure journalistic emptyness.

Posted by Lucky 2004-07-18 3:25:02 PM|| 2004-07-18 3:25:02 PM|| Front Page Top

9 I can see two or more weeks of unconstrained Gorelick, Ben Veniste, and company on all the news programs. Unconstrained by any supposed "consensus" amongst the 9/11 clowns. The BS is only just beginning.

Posted by Capt America 2004-07-18 4:40:15 PM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/] 2004-07-18 4:40:15 PM|| Front Page Top

10 mojo - That was me playing with the title - and it was intended to be snarky. ;-)

Posted by .com 2004-07-18 4:45:36 PM|| 2004-07-18 4:45:36 PM|| Front Page Top

11 We don't need another useless bureaucrat being added to the taxpayer supported payroll, thank you very much, Mr. and Ms. 9/11 Commissioners, who themselves are/were imprinted to the public teat.

We have enough experience with the less than stellar results derived from Czar appointees. Examples: Drug Czar and Homeland Security Czar. Big zeros warming chairs and collecting fat checks.

Just implement profiling of incoming and outgoing passengers at airports and tell the ACLU that it will get its non-profit status made nul and void as of uesterday if it protests. Also put a 5 year moratorium on immigration. Recruit and pay a bunch of Arabic translators double the salaries of JAG lawyers[the former are more useful]. Recruit and pay a bunch of ME Arabs 3x the salaries of JAG lawyers to be CIA informant-prisoners in Camp Bucca, Abu, Gitmo and we can get the ball rolling.

It does not take rocket science or a CIA Czar appointee to get proper intelligence from abroad as well as to protect our nation from within. Sheesh.

Posted by rex 2004-07-18 7:51:11 PM|| 2004-07-18 7:51:11 PM|| Front Page Top

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