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2003-08-25 Europe

France to Israel: No evidence Hamas, Islamic Jihad are ââterror groupsââ

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Posted by lux 2003-08-25 8:21:40 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Ah yes,one more reason to despise the terrorist loving,bend over and grab your ankles French.You know the same people urat wants to"crawl"into bed with.

Posted by raptor 2003-8-25 8:48:25 AM|| 2003-8-25 8:48:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is such a mind-boggling, jaw-dropping, incredibly stunning piece of denial that I can't think any real response to it.

At best the French goverment is off its meds, smoking some very serious week or, living in some parallel universe.

Posted by Jim K 2003-8-25 8:49:01 AM|| 2003-8-25 8:49:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 What the #$#@!!! is going on here?

Do you suppose that the Frogs are doing this because they think they are safe and that by sucking up to the lunatic fringe wackos in the fundementalist movement they are buying peace at home with their vast, fermenting mass of moslem North African expatriates???

I think jaw dropping is just not strong enough.

I believe the EU has trully gone mad. There is nothing they will not stoop to doing if they can thwart US or British actions ANYWHERE.

This is blatant anti-semitism at its worst.

Posted by SOG475 2003-8-25 9:24:12 AM|| 2003-8-25 9:24:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 keep an eye out, it's just a matter of time before the Paleos start showing up with French-made arms

Posted by Frank G 2003-8-25 9:59:07 AM|| 2003-8-25 9:59:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I find taking responsibility for bombing a commuter bus with children aboard to be compelling evidence of terrorism.

Posted by Steve D 2003-8-25 10:05:13 AM|| 2003-8-25 10:05:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I think you have to blow up a bus in Paris to be called a terrorist, anywhere else, you are just a "militant".

Posted by SOG475 2003-8-25 11:06:56 AM|| 2003-8-25 11:06:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Time to have the Evil Bush crank up the weather machine and deal them another killer heat wave?

Posted by tu3031 2003-8-25 11:22:45 AM|| 2003-8-25 11:22:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 France, reputed to be a soveriegn nation, could not respond to further questioning as it's mouth was occupied bu servicing Arabian camel d*ck.

Posted by Craig 2003-8-25 11:23:03 AM|| 2003-8-25 11:23:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I think Frank's got the right idea: "It's only business, Fredo."

Posted by Matt 2003-8-25 11:45:03 AM|| 2003-8-25 11:45:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Time to have the Evil Bush crank up the weather machine and deal them another killer heat wave?

There is no evidence that high temperatures can actually kill people. ;)

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-8-25 12:32:35 PM|| 2003-8-25 12:32:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I think this simply reflects their own anti-Semitic and Muslim-colonizing past. They are in total denial of the mess that their own hate and colonialism has fueled.

Have to go. I have an urge to play Frogger...

Posted by Tom 2003-8-25 12:40:52 PM|| 2003-8-25 12:40:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 In the 1973 OPEC oil embargo, much of Europe was squeezed on gasoline, which was up the food chain from crude oil. France let OPEC and the arabs influence their foreign policy, so they had all the petroleum they wanted, while lots of Europeans coped with shortages.

Now, over a generation later, France is doing the same thing. People are shocked because a new generation of people in the world are discovering this.

I have lived for 55 years, kept well read, and am still shocked that a nation can stoop so low and literally sell their souls to the arabs. Pretty disgusting.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-8-25 1:19:23 PM|| 2003-8-25 1:19:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Have to go. I have an urge to play Frogger...

Poorly, I hope.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-8-25 2:18:55 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-8-25 2:18:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm starting to get truly mad with my Western neighbors. Not that the German government has handled all this a lot better but as far as I know Germany supports the EU move to outlaw Hamas. Fischer's latest declarations seem to echo those of Powell, not of Villepin.
Btw more and more CDU-leaders (Merkel, SchÃ¤uble) favor sending Geman troops to Iraq to help. I predict SchrÃ¶ders fall for next year (once unemployment hits 5 million).

Posted by True German Ally 2003-8-25 2:25:51 PM|| 2003-8-25 2:25:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 While I think the French position is silly and will haunt them in futre (they could learn from the Saudis about that), I have to point out that this absurdity has precedent elsewhere. Or have we forgotten that Sinn Fein held seats in Parliament while the Provos were still setting bombs in London?

Posted by John Anderson 2003-8-25 2:34:17 PM|| 2003-8-25 2:34:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 True German Ally,

Thank you for saying that. But how can you predict Schroeder's fall next year? Doesn't he have a 4 year deal? Or is there some kind of recall clause like in California?

Posted by g wiz 2003-8-25 2:47:22 PM|| 2003-8-25 2:47:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Does this really surprise anyone? Please let's be serious, oK? Everyone please repeat after me: The French republic is an enemy state of the USA. Pure and simple.
I wish it was simply only business, as some have stated. But no, deep down in their dark, envious soul, most, if not all Frenchmen, hate America and its success, and especially America's worldwide status and influence. It only naturally follows that they would hate and detest her staunchest ally, that shitty little country, Israel.
Remember, it was not all that long ago that the international language of commerce and diplomacy was the lingua Franca. It was usurped by the Anglo-Saxon/American cultural hegemon, and will never, ever, ever be dominant again. Thus the best the Frenchies can do is hope for the destruction of the American state, even if it means the destruction of their own trough Muslim terror bombs and infiltration of their culture and country. This utterly nihilistic approach only serves to highlight the mind-set of utter despondency and defeat now well established in the cranium of most Frenchmen. Sad. Truly sad.

Posted by jlc 2003-8-25 3:00:06 PM|| 2003-8-25 3:00:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 John Anderson, that's a quirk of democracy I'm afraid. Not an utterly avoidable foreign policy decision. Elected Sinn Fein MPs have never taken up their seats in Westminster, as a result of their refusal to swear the obligatory oath of allegiance to the British monarch.

Interesting little known fact: the first woman to be elected a British MP was the oddly named Constance Georgina Markievicz, aka Countess Markievicz, in 1918, although as she never sat in Parliament few are aware of the fact.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-8-25 3:02:14 PM|| 2003-8-25 3:02:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 g wiz, no, I wish we had a recall clause. Schroeder has a razor thin majority in parliament and the SPD does have a few sane members, too. Same with the Greens. Funny enough the Greens are ready for more radical economic reforms than the SPD.
But I did not say that SPD/Greens will fall next year, only Schroeder. His popularity rates are dismal and most Germans think that he isn't able to do ANYTHING about Germany's problems. If he doesn't throw the towel, somebody will do it for him, after the next winter of discontent.

Posted by True German Ally 2003-8-25 3:40:16 PM|| 2003-8-25 3:40:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The French hate everyone, even themselves. In that, they mirror the Arabs. The French have been fighting since Waterloo to be relevant again, and failing repeatedly. To the French, anything that does not accept and reflect the glory of France is as nothing, it doesn't exist. One of the serious side effects of this national malady is that everybody gets to the point where they're so tired of the French they begin to excise them from their everyday activities. This, in turn, makes the French more angry, and the circle continues until the only way the French can get ANY attention is by doing something so incredibly stupid that it cannot be ignored. In this, the French are quite similar to infants during their "terrible twos" period. Unfortunately, while infants grow out of this childishness, the French have made a virtue of it. God help France's neighbors. Maybe we can persuade one of the drug companies to supply tranquilizers and painkillers at cost to those that have to experience the French 'culture' first-hand.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-8-25 4:12:10 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-8-25 4:12:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 I don't know why we're all huffy-puffy about our little French friends. We already knew that they are, and always will be, as useless as teats on a nun, balls on a cow, and/or screen doors on a submarine.

I'm starting to really think the real reason they're doing all of these stupid things as of late (read as the last 50 years) is because it keeps them in the news. They're The Forgotten Power TM and they just can't accept it. They don't really do anything of note, with the possible exception of dying in droves when the sun shines.
They are really good being theatrical media whores at the UN. Aside from that, and the dying thing, they don't do much.

Oh, wait! They did change the term "e-mail" to "See Pierre! I told you we'd make the nightly news again!"

Did anyone, besides me notice that they had to die way more noticably and in far greater numbers then anyone in the rest of Europe.
That's because they're superior to the rest of us.

Medical Reform Hint to Pres Joke Jockstrap:

"TELL YOUR PEOPLE TO DRINK MORE WATER!!!"

I'm sure that the French Medical Association will be reeling from this amazing new medical breakthrough. You even have my permission to tell the world that you thought it up yourself. (Like you weren't going to anyhow.)

Note, I would like to say that I am deeply sorry to all nuns, cows, and submarines that I may have offended. It was totally wrong for me to compare you to the French.

Lastly, I would like to thank God above that Murat and his "Arab and Persian peoples" are as ass-backwards and f**ked up as they are. If anyone of those middle eastern cuntries were the leading superpower, the world would be in flames by now.

Posted by Paul 2003-8-25 4:49:58 PM|| 2003-8-25 4:49:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Nice job Paul! Wrack him!

Posted by Flaming Sword 2003-8-25 5:39:21 PM|| 2003-8-25 5:39:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Unfortunately Paul, even though the French Republic is, for all intents and purposes, impotent, they still manage to create a lot of problems, and just generally make things a lot harder to accomplish for the rest of us.
Through their influence in the UN (why is this has-been power still part of the security counsel, btw? Like the question, why is Arafat still alive, one of the great mysteries of our age), their influence in the EU (out of all proportion to their strength), their bribery of former colonies in Africa, and just as a beacon of supposed streangth and steadfastness to all leftist 5th columninsts the world over, including the US, they are a very painfull thorn in the side of all moral Western liberal democracies. They punch above their weight because they have managed to seduce a large portion of peoples and countries that they are still relevant. What they need is a very good bitch-slapping to humiliate them and put them in their place.

Posted by jlc 2003-8-25 5:50:24 PM|| 2003-8-25 5:50:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 "by sucking up to the lunatic fringe wackos in the fundementalist movement they are buying peace at home"

BINGO! You have just won a vacation package for two to lovely Paris, France! The package includes a 6 night stay at the elite 5-star L'Hotel de Weasel in the heart of Paris minutes from the Chumps Elysees, a 5 day metro & museum pass, a bus tour of Versailles, and complimentary limo transfers from/to CDG airport. Enjoy!

Posted by Raphael 2003-8-25 10:04:54 PM|| 2003-8-25 10:04:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Lets see....

Targets innocent Civilians -- Check
Hides behind innocent Civilians -- Check

Oh, and last but not least..

The French like them -- Check

Yup, Hamas and Islamic Jihad are terrorist states

How long before (or sense...) France starts selling them arms?

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