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Acquitted terror suspect loses appeal in immigration case

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Posted by ryuge 2007-12-06 07:05|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top
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#1 As for USA is concern the foreigner should never expect justice from their courts,As judges are also Americans.The history will remember this time as the most unjustice un acceptable period of USA history.

Posted by wazdan">wazdan 2007-12-06 07:33|| 2007-12-06 07:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Only an imbecile who is the the son of his sister or a muslim, but I repeat myself, could contemplate such logic as poor wazdan. A healthy society would take the treason of one, a guest who has pledged to uphold the Constitution and laws of the US no less, and disembowel him and burn his entrails on the nearest mosque steps. Then feed his family to pigs.

Posted by ed 2007-12-06 08:37|| 2007-12-06 08:37|| Front Page Top

#3 As for USA is concern the foreigner should never expect justice from their courts,As judges are also Americans

We bring the Canadians to fill in on weekends.

Guess Jaber/Houshia/US-Citizen-by-Fraud should've asked for a Saturday court date.

Posted by Pappy 2007-12-06 09:29|| 2007-12-06 09:29|| Front Page Top

#4 A doctorate in chemistry? Well won't that make him employable over there...
As far as American judges in American courts? Wow, what a concept...

Posted by tu3031 2007-12-06 09:36|| 2007-12-06 09:36|| Front Page Top

#5 What ed said.

Where is Zenster? Has he been banned? Why? Anyone know?

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-12-06 11:31|| 2007-12-06 11:31|| Front Page Top

#6 As for USA is concern the foreigner should never expect justice from their courts,As judges are also Americans.

Oh yes, and Sudanese courts have sudanese judges, Afghan courts have Afghan Judges, Saudi Arabian courts have Saudi Arabian Judges, but YOU, wazdan, hold that American courts should NOT have American Judges?

The history will remember this time as the most unjustice un acceptable period of USA history.

History's gonna remember this date and time and comment as being the last damn straw on THIS american camel's back.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-12-06 12:12|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-12-06 12:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Doctorate in chemistry from an American university makes him a little dangerous to just let him run off and join Islamic Jihad. He pro'ly knows the red-wire/green-wire trick.

I think he needs to spend some time in Gitmo after he gets out of the federal pen.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-12-06 12:32|| 2007-12-06 12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 AoS note: Zenster is not posting at Rantburg at this time. The mods had a review and reached consensus on this point. The issue was his style and repetition of posting along with some long-term concerns from regulars we trust. So he's taking a break. We're not going to get into it any further.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-12-06 12:34|| 2007-12-06 12:34|| Front Page Top

#9 tough

Posted by Steven 2007-12-06 12:39|| 2007-12-06 12:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Bummer...

Posted by imoyaro 2007-12-06 12:44|| 2007-12-06 12:44|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh, dear. wazdan has just noted the 145,765th greatest insult to the Arabs throughout history. Just ahead of the Burger King sundae swirl that resembled Allah's name, but still behind the Piglet decor in a British benefits office somewhere.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2007-12-06 13:44|| 2007-12-06 13:44|| Front Page Top

#12 As for USA is concern the foreigner should never expect justice from their courts,As judges are also Americans.The history will remember this time as the most unjustice un acceptable period of USA history.

Kinda like Sudanese judges and their infidel teddy bear rulings...

Posted by tu3031 2007-12-06 14:26|| 2007-12-06 14:26|| Front Page Top

#13 The solution is simple, wazdan: If you don't like American justice, stay out of America. Honest, we won't miss you.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-12-06 14:45|| 2007-12-06 14:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Poor wazdan raises a good point, but fails to follow it to the obvious conclusion. Not his fault of course, given the foreign education he was saddled with... At any rate, given that, as he said, the foreigner should never expect justice from their [American] courts, it would be wise for the foreigner to do nothing to attract the attention of American courts. The easiest way, obviously, is never to come to America, all of which is within the jurisdiction of the American court system. But, once having crossed the border into the country, never breaking any laws, rules or customs of the country, such as making false statements on applications or using identification numbers belonging to citizens in order to obtain credit, would be wise.

One wouldn't expect such perspicacity from a foreigner of poor wazdan's caliber, however. Nor, clearly, of Mr. Jaber's, either.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-06 14:50|| 2007-12-06 14:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Acquitted terror suspect loses appeal in immigration case

Good Riddance! If only all of them would lose. The bastards use our all of our systems often and quite well to suit their goals.

side note for liberals... Unfortunately the SF ~~Gay Area~~ Bay Area has a large community of Paleos and other Muslims.

I see them in limited venues like..Paleos own quite a few Mom & Pop groceries located on street corners. They also drive cabs and I see them at UCSF or Stanford Hospitals as patients mainly [the head-rags are a clue].. although several work at these Hospitals as well.

I hate to sound like a old bigoted racist Bastard but Mr. and Mrs. Perfect Progressive American, please come out here and Take home all the Gays and Muslims you and your insane friends can load on a Banana Boat! Have fun A$$holes! [or take em all for a long walk on a short pier]
grrr

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-12-06 15:16|| 2007-12-06 15:16|| Front Page Top

#16 you say it so much nicer than I do TW!

/~:)

Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg 2007-12-06 15:19|| 2007-12-06 15:19|| Front Page Top

#17 American judges + American law = American justice. Little wazoo can't seem to understand that. We've created rules to run our nation, just as Britain creates British rules to run Great Britain, Brazil creates Brazilian rules to run Brazil, and Soddy Arabida creates their own rules. If you don't like it, don't come here. If you DO come here, expect OUR rules to apply.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-12-06 15:20|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-12-06 15:20|| Front Page Top

#18 Arwah J. Jabers argument that the U. S. District Court of the Western District of Arkansas was not the proper place for his prosecution.

He doesn't seem to understand our court system or our country. Best to send him back to the West Bank for a reality check. Maybe he likes the West Bank court system better--AK47 justice.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-12-06 15:22|| 2007-12-06 15:22|| Front Page Top

#19 Zenster is not posting at Rantburg at this time

Our loss.

Jaber also was fined $2000 and lost his citizenship

Finally, some rational justice!

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2007-12-06 16:39|| 2007-12-06 16:39|| Front Page Top

#20 Chris e-mail me will you. I don't have your phone number out in New York. Thanks.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2007-12-06 16:40|| 2007-12-06 16:40|| Front Page Top

#21 TW scores again in the Word-O-du jour! (Going to Middle French from 1548 is a trip, but fun!)
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) per·spi·cac·i·ty
Pronunciation[pur-spi-kas-i-tee]
noun 1. keenness of mental perception and understanding; discernment; penetration.
2. Archaic. keen vision.
[Origin: 154050; Sorry Waz, No koranic equivelant
so start seething and rolling your eyes for laughs.

Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-12-06 17:45|| 2007-12-06 17:45|| Front Page Top

#22 Muslim immigration to the USA should be halted. True Muslims will not assimilate. The on "justice" they recognize is Shari'a - which is no justice at all.

Posted by SR-71 2007-12-06 17:53|| 2007-12-06 17:53|| Front Page Top

#23 Wazdan:

Please provide me with you contact information.

In my off hours I'm working a draft for a screenplay to submit to various producers in Hollywood. I'd like to see a particular movie made. Call it a docudrama for now. I think the time has come to make a movie with a focus on a group of pro-western Civ, pro-USA, anti-muslim jihadists. The plot is somewhat complicated and nuanced, but if pressed I'd sum it up this way: We win. You lose.

I'd like your thoughts, Wazdan, on how you would frame/present the scene where a convicted muslim jihadist in Indonesia - having just been convicted in an Indonesian Court of law for beheading a 13 year girl for the "offense" of being an uppity Christian ifidel - is given a two year sentence under the auspices of islamic- sharia law. I want to know your thoughts: what picture, in your opinion, makes a greater negative impact (if any) in the mind of the average muslim viewer: watching the convicted jihadist's head explode by a gunshot or watching his chest open up by way of multiple gunshots? I'm curious, what are your thoughts on this matter.

Wazdan...I have to ask...are you sunni or shia? the reason I ask is because a couple scenes in my draft screen play revolve around the sunni and shia. In one scene I have an iraqi sunni boy of tender years alerting a group of US Marines to an ambush by Iranian Shia. The young sunni boy's warning to the Marines (which saves them) later results in the ritual slaughter of boy's sunni parents and siblings at the hands of Iranian back shia. In an entirely different scene I have a young shia boy alerting US Marines to the danger of an ambush by Saudi sunnis. Same result: the US Marines survive but the Shia boy's family is slaughtered in retaliation for his offense in warning the infidel of impending danger.

Which scenario plays better for you and your ilk? Be honest now...I ask only out of deference to your religion. See..in my screen play...in both scenarios...the Shia that took revenge on the Sunni and the Sunni that took revenge on the Shai...well..in MY movie they are found, targeted...and as is so often the case of jihadi-muslim cowards...they all piss their diapers and soil themselves, and surrender while begging for mercy and forgiveness from the superior warriors: US Marines (and Army!!!).

Now pleaae,Wazdan, don't think this is a one sided movie. It's not. You muslim-jihadists are not ALWAYS shown hiding for cover behind the burqas of women and amongst the playgrounds of children. In the last scene I described for you one of the jihadists (either sunni or shia...both sects of your religion routinely act this way) who is so fearful he soiled his pants upon being captured by US Marines...well...after waving the white flag and raising his arms in surrender...well this muslim proceeds to pull out a either a hand grenade and to loft it onto a group of US Marines. Or it's a tickle me elmo doll which you jihadists are notorious for carrying.

Now...in my movie a 21 year old Marine (who recently graduated with honors from a midwest university and who is considering grad school so he can set the historical record straight for the stupid people who have been indoctrinated by liberals on all university campuses for the past 40 years)...we'll you see, wazdan,...he knows "war is deceit" (so sayeth the child molester : Big Mo)...anyway..this young Marine sees the hand of the muslim jihadi rise up with the white flag in one hand and with...something else in the other hand...OUR hero senses danger and fires...blowing off the hand of the jihadi. the object in the jihadi hand falls to the ground and explodes killing all of his co-religionists. The liberal media in the USA take their cues from Al-Jezerra and report that a US Marine killed 15 surrendering iraqi civilians because one iraqi raised his hand with a talking elmo doll in it!!!

Now things are really getting bad for the Marines! The NYT and WAPO and LA Times and CBS and NBC and ABC are saying (echoing Al-Jizz) the Marines tossed a grenade into a group of muslim civilians on their way to CLEAN OUT bed bans in the only Christian hospital in Iraq. No one can address the reason why or otherwise explain why there are not enough Christians left in Iraq to clean out the bed pans in Christian hospitals, but by ALLAH muslims are volunteering in droves to pick up the lack. So sayeth Al-Jizz and CBS, and NBC, and ABC et al. What happened to the 2 million Chritians in Iraq. Did the Marines kill them? We don't know. Maybe. Why have most churches in Iraq been burnt to the gound? Damn Jooooosss, right? My movie leaves the question to be answered by the viewer, wazdan....I hope you'll appreciate that. Don't be too surprised if the viewer concludes something different from you - unless the viewer is muslim or American leftist.

Oh...now the movie gets good...our HERO is brought up on charges of premediated murder - to wit: killing a group of young iraqi men on their way to clean bed pans at the only Christrian hospital in Iraq just after they left a meetng of an interfaith outreach program sponsored by a group of transgender missionaries from San Francisco. Said charges of premediatated murder were brought by: Jack Murtha, Nancy Pelosie, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Barak H. Obama, Barbara Streistand, Kofi Anon, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, Barb Walters, Walt Cronkite, Dan Rather, Katie Curic, The NYT editorial board, the WAPO editorial board, the LA Times editrorial board, CBS, NBC, ABC, Dave Letterman (who just HATES Bush despite his ostensible support for the troops), the girls at Dailykos and the DU.

In MY movie this is the moment of great TENSION....what will happen to our hero: And then...like the great phoenix rising from the ashes....in the midst of trial where everythng looks pleak for our hero...in walks Franklin Foer - former editor of The New Republic magazine -- to announce to all concerned: Stop this...Stop this NOW...YOU HAVE AN INNOCENT MAN ON TRIAL !!!! We at the TNR had a reporter embedded with the ...uh...we'll...we had a civilian embedded with some guys we didn't know. But we did have a muslim reporter embedded with the muslims on their way to clean out the bed pans at the Christian hospital. Our embedded reporter...err...we're not sure how... captured on video tape everything that happened on the fateful day. Our reporter apparently...according to the movie I make...knew ahead of time precise place to be. to..err...video tape the ...procession of muslims on their way to clean out the Christian bed pans...yeah..that's it.. One of the muslim volunteers (for bed pan duty) did in fact have a grendade and not a ticlkle me elmo doll in his hand. The muslim wanted to "share" or "give" (in a muslim sort of way) the grenade with the US Marines. He was so proud. The US Marine that shot the grenade out of the hand of the muslim civilian volunteer...well...it's a war zone...and he should be forgiven for perhaps over-reacting.

Mind you...the fact is ALL of the "muslim civilian volunteers" who - we are assured in the movie by Al-Jizz & NYT et al- were on their way to clean out bed pans at a Christian hospital-- the fact that they were armed with AK-47's and RPGs and AQI lierature/ beheading videos is of no consequence. Good wholesome entertainment is hard to come by in Iraq. Wazdan...do you think I telegraphed the ending of this movie. It's a happy ending where the good guys win and the muslim-jihadis lose. Did you pick up on that before the end of the movie? I'm thinking if I can't keep you in suspense I can't keep Hollywood in suspense, in which case I can't sell the movie.
I can see Oliver Stone or Robert Redford's face: oh...man...you mean the US Marine did the right thing killin' the right guy for the right reason...and Bush isn't Hitler...oh...man...We can't buy into that !

Wazdan: It's possible my movie- if I ever get it made- will not be reviewed favorably by muslims and democrats (sorry to be redundant). But I'm willing to take that chance. So wadan...what do you think of the movie so far? I've got hours of stuff like this. Perhaps we might want to talk to Peter Jackson becuase I'm thinking that to tell this story will take maybe nine hour trilogy. I hear he has exprience in these matters. What say you, wazdan?

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-12-06 18:46|| 2007-12-06 18:46|| Front Page Top

#24 My goodness, Mark -- you do have an imagination!

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-06 19:15|| 2007-12-06 19:15|| Front Page Top

#25 Thank you, TW, but what I actually have is a SMALL imagination coupled with a LARGE bottle of B&B Benidictine brandy. God blessed those monks. The Lord endowed those monks with intelligence and creativity. The monks rewarded His confidence by creating something mankind will enjoy forever. I recommend B&B to you and Mr. Wife. Cheers.

Posted by MarkZ 2007-12-06 20:09|| 2007-12-06 20:09|| Front Page Top

#26 L'chaim, Mark. Enjoy!

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-06 20:35|| 2007-12-06 20:35|| Front Page Top

#27 WHy didn't the judge order Jaber deported after his sentence?

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