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25,000 Texan Signatures On Secession Petition 6 Days After Election

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Posted by Bugs Uleger6376 2012-11-13 21:30|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Hope this article gets more exposure than just one hour late evening at Rantburg. Thought it would be posted for tomorrows edition.

Just sayin.

Posted by Bugs Uleger6376 2012-11-12 22:58|| 2012-11-12 22:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Agreed. It's offensive in the extreme that anyone thinks that Ogabe's executive branch is the proper forum for redress of grievances such as this.

Posted by RandomJD 2012-11-12 23:56|| 2012-11-12 23:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Ms. Bosoeker will not permit me to hoist the Bonnie Blue from the porch (just yet) :-(

Posted by Besoeker on the road again 2012-11-13 08:14|| 2012-11-13 08:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Well if Texas secedes I am moving there. Heck, at this rate if North Dakota leaves I'm moving there.

Posted by DarthVader 2012-11-13 08:32|| 2012-11-13 08:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey 'soeker, if you have Vehicular Sovereignty, check out:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BONNIE-BLUE-VINYL-FLAG-DECAL-STICKER-/230509688048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ab72b4f0#ht_1519wt_902

Posted by Uncle Phester 2012-11-13 08:33|| 2012-11-13 08:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Thought I read there was such a petition in Louisiana also. Obummble is not an Abraham Lincoln. Obummble also will never be impeached. The first black president being impeached? Won't happen no matter what. If that should happen, the inner cities would be aflame across the country. In Detroit's case that might be an improvement.

Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-13 08:58|| 2012-11-13 08:58|| Front Page Top

#7 sour grapes

Posted by ChuffingChuffChuff 2012-11-13 09:13|| 2012-11-13 09:13|| Front Page Top

#8 Here ya go JohnQC

Petitions seeking White House approval to secede now come from 47 states

Posted by Beavis 2012-11-13 09:21|| 2012-11-13 09:21|| Front Page Top

#9 So if Texas secedes do they get a share of the national debt? If its based on population they are still going to be one of the most indebted nations on earth.

Posted by ChuffingChuffChuff 2012-11-13 09:23|| 2012-11-13 09:23|| Front Page Top

#10 47 States? WOW! Some of these are blue states I noticed--probably the disgruntled minority (or maybe the majority?).

Posted by JohnQC 2012-11-13 09:36|| 2012-11-13 09:36|| Front Page Top

#11 #9 So if Texas secedes do they get a share of the national debt? If its based on population they are still going to be one of the most indebted nations on earth.

As opposed to staying in the Union and being the most indebted nation on earth? Leaving now would mean they miss the coming bigger debt. And they get to keep their economy.

Posted by SteveS 2012-11-13 09:47|| 2012-11-13 09:47|| Front Page Top

#12 So if Texas secedes do they get a share of the national debt?

Considering that they're creating wealth and value, they'll pay it off far faster than those responsible for that great sucking sound in the Beltway.

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-11-13 11:26|| 2012-11-13 11:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Since 2008 Obama has already lost 7 states

Posted by European Conservative 2012-11-13 11:42|| 2012-11-13 11:42|| Front Page Top

#14 If Texas succeeds there will be a flood of states which follow, even some blue ones I would imagine.

Texas has energy and coastline, and the immediate benefit would be the ability to control its own borders. I suggest they line up a few foreign nations to immediately recognize their sovereignty (China would almost certainly be willing).

They always said the South would rise again...

Posted by Iblis 2012-11-13 11:46|| 2012-11-13 11:46|| Front Page Top

#15 Excellent idea Iblis. Emailing the English, Israel, Australia, just for starters.
(Also, channeling Sam Houston and George Washington).

Posted by Voldemort Grereth1352 2012-11-13 11:56|| 2012-11-13 11:56|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh Jeez.

No state is going to secede. Its not going to happen.

You can get 25,000 people in any state to sign up to anything.

Anyone here who thinks a state is going to secede I'm happy to have a cash bet with them here. $10,000 if any state secedes before our president's term is up. Any takers?

Posted by ChuffingChuffChuff 2012-11-13 12:54|| 2012-11-13 12:54|| Front Page Top

#17 Troll alert.

Posted by Iblis 2012-11-13 13:36|| 2012-11-13 13:36|| Front Page Top

#18 And he chuffed and puffed and he fell over.

Posted by warthogswife 2012-11-13 13:49|| 2012-11-13 13:49|| Front Page Top

#19 25 millions Texans live in Texas, now 25 thousand want to not be part of the USA, thats a pretty small percentage, just sayin

Posted by 746 2012-11-13 13:51|| 2012-11-13 13:51|| Front Page Top

#20 Secession ain't happening. Prior to 1865 it could have been argued, but it is settled law now.
But put your name on those petitions and increase the odds you'll be subject to extra scrutiny by all the alphabet agencies.

Posted by Glenmore 2012-11-13 13:52|| 2012-11-13 13:52|| Front Page Top

#21 thats a hack article, c'mon My state of Idaho isnt even on the list!!!

Posted by 746 2012-11-13 13:54|| 2012-11-13 13:54|| Front Page Top

#22 "25 millions Texans live in Texas, now 25 thousand want to not be part of the USA, thats a pretty small percentage," 746

The number is now almost 50,000 Texans and growing fast.

Posted by Voldemort Grereth1352 2012-11-13 14:10|| 2012-11-13 14:10|| Front Page Top

#23 Secession ain't happening. Prior to 1865 it could have been argued, but it is settled law now.

Yes, but a States Convention for dissolution is still Constitutional. Article V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-11-13 14:18|| 2012-11-13 14:18|| Front Page Top

#24 The main problem with a Constitutional Convention would be that all those Obama supporters get a vote there too. Don't. Go. There.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-11-13 14:36|| 2012-11-13 14:36|| Front Page Top

#25 I can still see the red and productive states becoming more and more disillusioned with having to support the blue states and in 3-4 years enough of them saying "fuck it" and leaving, Civil War be damned.

Posted by DarthVader 2012-11-13 14:38|| 2012-11-13 14:38|| Front Page Top

#26 $10,000 if any state secedes before our president's term is up.

"Our president's" seems a little mild. How about "Great Leader's"?

Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-11-13 15:05|| 2012-11-13 15:05|| Front Page Top

#27 I can still see the red and productive states becoming more and more disillusioned with having to support the blue states and in 3-4 years enough of them saying "fuck it" and leaving, Civil War be damned.

The one advantage of the dissolution of the Union is that we'd end up with Canada's foreign policy instead of being the military welfare provider (aka globocop) to the world, at $700b a year and counting.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2012-11-13 15:08|| 2012-11-13 15:08|| Front Page Top

#28 Well Darth, with John Kerry as the Secretary of defense in a few years the military might be so depleted through resignations that a civil war would be unneeded.

Posted by rjschwarz 2012-11-13 15:16|| 2012-11-13 15:16|| Front Page Top

#29 It might not be the DoD you'd have to worry about. It'd be that "civilian force" under the DoJ that'd get you.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-11-13 15:57|| 2012-11-13 15:57|| Front Page Top

#30 Secession may be settled law, but it could be unsettled pretty quickly. Champ is indecisive and weak. Would he invade Texas? And if he tried what percentage of the military is from Texas?

Champ is, as they say, all hat and no cattle. That and his poisonous policies make this a real possibility.

Posted by Choluter Jones9539 2012-11-13 16:48|| 2012-11-13 16:48|| Front Page Top

#31 The main problem with a Constitutional Convention would be that all those Obama supporters get a vote there too. Don't. Go. There.

The main problem with that argument is that it still requires ratification by 3/4th of the states.

Posted by Procopius2k 2012-11-13 16:52|| 2012-11-13 16:52|| Front Page Top

#32 Well, I still have a hard time seeing anything happening in the next two years. Too many dhimocrats are dependent on re-election in 2014. However, after that expect the full force of the communist state to slam down on the states since Obama and the dhims have nothing left to lose at that point.

Posted by DarthVader 2012-11-13 17:03|| 2012-11-13 17:03|| Front Page Top

#33 Anyone here who thinks a state is going to secede I'm happy to have a cash bet with them here. $10,000 if any state secedes before our president's term is up. Any takers?

LOL
WHOOOOSH
Your built to low to the ground boy, all the good ones are going over your head.

Posted by Shipman 2012-11-13 17:22|| 2012-11-13 17:22|| Front Page Top

#34 You mean the same states who ratified the 17th amendment which stripped away their own power?

Those states?

(Yes I know some states sent real prizewinners to the senate - but look at the losers we have now!)

Posted by CrazyFool 2012-11-13 17:27|| 2012-11-13 17:27|| Front Page Top

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