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2006-11-09 Britain

Three ["Asian Men"] found guilty of Glasgow race-hate murder

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Posted by Zenster 2006-11-09 00:33|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sadly, in the UK it seems you can only be accused of racism if you're white - such is the PC madness we have adopted as our culture. Hopefully this case will put that to bed. They should have hung.

Posted by Howard UK 2006-11-09 03:33|| 2006-11-09 03:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Howard, might I ask what your take is on the terrorism angle in this case? I firmly believe that, if not religiously motivated, this foul crime was largely enabled by the spewing of types like abu Hamza who, in essence, has told his followers that non-Muslims can be slaughtered wherever they are found on the street.

This amounts to sub rosa terrorism in that it can be easily attributed to ordinary crime, while deriving much of its enabling power from active religious hatred. We are seeing these "mini" terrorist acts here in America and the MSM has willfully refused to address the possibility that Islamist programming has anything to do with it. Be it an attack on a Jewish center or a Muslim student ramming his vehicle into a crowd of coeds, they all have a subtext of religious motivation.

I'm hoping that others will check in with their views on this. As security is ratcheted up, imams will per force be toning down their message of religious hate, leaving many young and impressionable jihadists to get their inspiration from the Internet instead. This will further decentralize terrorist planning and drive a trend towards these smaller scale sort of masked hate crimes.

I am concerned that much of this will begin to slip through the cracks with law enforcement, our national security apparatus and, even more than before, the media as well.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-09 04:05|| 2006-11-09 04:05|| Front Page Top

#3 I think a climate in which Imams are freely allowed to talk of the supremacy of Islam and the duty of Muslims to violently pursue a more favourable position in an 'alien' society adds a religious element to this crime - they may well believe their sins will be pardoned by Allah and thus in their eyes the crime is worth committing. I suppose we'd have to ask them... just seems part of the trend in Britain of Muslims being allowed to get uppity about their socially inferior position in spite of the consequences. The press are certainly not mentioning the 'I word' and portraying these guys as out and out psychopaths which they obviously are. Can't help but think that the good ol' RoP comes into play somewhere tho' - as does the amount of inbreeding amongst the Pakistani community.

Posted by Howard UK 2006-11-09 04:55|| 2006-11-09 04:55|| Front Page Top

#4 And thats the last you'll here of that story from the main stram media for the obvious reason that it wasnt some white guys torching an Asian. sighs. Far more horrific then the stephen laurance case yet has received about 1% if that of the media coverage that the Laurence case or for that matter any 'white vs others' case.

Posted by Shep UK 2006-11-09 05:13|| 2006-11-09 05:13|| Front Page Top

#5 I live less than a mile from where Stephen Lawrence was murdered and it was a horrendous and despicable crime. However, the white community has been mercilessly koshed for the last ten plus years over this. The fact that a low-level race war, that has provided a higher proportion of white victims, is in progress is totally ignored. The local estates are now chock-full of Somalis (RoP again) and have become no-go areas for anyone respectable black or white - which has had a semi-unifying effect. This situation is the result of social engineering by a left-wing borough council and is ignored by pussy journos who don't want to inflame tensions further or risk being accused of being racist. Debate very much needed.

Posted by Howard UK 2006-11-09 05:35|| 2006-11-09 05:35|| Front Page Top

#6 Thank you very much for the more local insight, Howard and Shep, it is much appreciated. You'd think the Glaswegians would be in an uproar over this. I'm appalled at the notion that any of these cretins will ever see daylight again. That one of them is out on parole already really hacks me off.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-09 05:52|| 2006-11-09 05:52|| Front Page Top

#7 a little prison justice, please?

anyone got a match?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-11-09 07:32|| 2006-11-09 07:32|| Front Page Top

#8 They will be out in 10.

Posted by ed 2006-11-09 08:20|| 2006-11-09 08:20|| Front Page Top

#9 I guess we can hope that they do become "life" sentences, and hope that "life" is very short.

Probably not, though. I'm sure the prison's religious advisers will consider them lions of Islam.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2006-11-09 08:47|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2006-11-09 08:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Match, gas, some assembly required. Why haven't these Muslims been hung? Burning a kid alive! We even protect these terrorist in prison...

The press is clearly hiding the religion of these porKoranimals by calling them "Asian". This protective PC masking is the reason the humans have not risen up to throw out these Kaaba rock kissers.

Howard we have the same leftist fools importing Somalian Muslims here in Minneapolis. The come and regardless of proof of ID, are put on welfare right away. The local press refuses to report any crimes of Somalis.

Liberalism means Dhimmitude in no short fashion.

Posted by Icerigger 2006-11-09 08:58|| 2006-11-09 08:58|| Front Page Top

#11 Each one of these f*cking p*ssies needs to be bound, gagged, stabbed repeatedly and then set a light. This sentence is a joke & an insult to Kriss Donald.

If anyone ever messed w/one of my children I'd be the one going to jail or getting the needle.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-11-09 09:29|| 2006-11-09 09:29|| Front Page Top

#12 When civilizaton means these scum can't be executed then civilization is meaningless.

Posted by pacific_waters 2006-11-09 12:04|| 2006-11-09 12:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Time for Imran and his pals to enjoy a few games of "face soccer".

Posted by Uleath Hupavigum7804 2006-11-09 12:09|| 2006-11-09 12:09|| Front Page Top

#14 Like I said in another post a few days ago; Europe will soon enough come to regret banning capital punishment. Once the Muslim invasion is in full swing, quite possibly it will only be vigilante street justice that saves them. The British Christians are already talking about taking up arms regardless (or because of) government policies. How soon will the populations of other nations follow suit?

The one singlemost crucial step forward in making people understand the threat is to begin declaring Islam a political ideology. Calling it Islamofascism is not quite enough. All of our politicians and religious leaders must adopt this new nomenclature to make it clear that Muslims are fooling no one.

The next step is to incrementally put in place measures increasingly unfriendly to Islam. First and foremost amongst those must be banning of the hijab, niqab and burqa. This will force extremists, especially the males to leave and will provide a mode of integration for Islamic women, if they want to take it.

Finally comes the big step of banning Islam itself. It is still beyond me that a creed which permits Abject Gender Apartheid can still be accepted as valid anywhere in the civilized world. The ritual and institutionalized abuse of women that goes on daily in almost all Islamic cultures is reason enough to ban this thuggish cult.

Sadly, far too much of our various political systems are largely patriarchal in nature and see little wrong with the horrors being inflicted upon women. Others simply cannot get past the moral relativism that demands allotting Islam respect where none is due. Finally, there are leaders like Bush who is so wrapped up in his own religiosity that he is unable to attack another putative faith no matter that its actions wholly go beyond the pale.

We must begin making our societies hostile to Islam, just as the MME (Muslim Middle East) countries are already inimicable to Western culture. Reciprocity must become the watchword. Without religious freedom in the MME, the practice of Islam must find no foothold here. The clock is ticking down swiftly. Look no farther than Iran for proof of that.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-09 12:30|| 2006-11-09 12:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Zenster well put and to the point.

Posted by Icerigger 2006-11-09 12:48|| 2006-11-09 12:48|| Front Page Top

#16
We must begin making our societies hostile to Islam, just as the MME (Muslim Middle East) countries are already inimicable to Western culture.

And do so without surrendering our principles, by simply refusing to accomodate their prejudices when it conflicts with our culture. No more segregated swim times. No more covered faces. Prosecute -- harshly! -- for the money laundering that masks itself as "charity".

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-11-09 16:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-11-09 16:01|| Front Page Top

#17 RC, do you feel that Islam should still be allowed to function in America while it continues to prohibit (or strongly discourges through weak penalties against attackers of) all other religions in so many of the MME countries?

What are your thoughts on flat-out banning it here in America? I say reciprocity must include true freedom of religion in the MME before we should allow Islam to continue existing here.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-09 16:26|| 2006-11-09 16:26|| Front Page Top

#18 These subhuman fuckers abducted and murdered an innocent child because he was a "whitey" I'm not sure how much radical islam has been an influence on their racist murderous behaviour but i'm bloody sure its not tolerated round here(WE glasgow).
Personaly I'd be tempted to subject these 2nd gen paki immigrants to sharia law but fortunetly for them i'm not judiciary, even though they admitted guilt ran away to their extended family in whackypakiland they were not turned in by their(OUR) community. A possible backlash to this is that we had a murder of an "asian businessman" here last night(i.e. pakistani shopkeeper stabbed three times in his neck in his store, polis are as usual reticent but gossip is half robbery gone wrong half twisted revenge attack )

Posted by pihkalbadger 2006-11-09 18:22|| 2006-11-09 18:22|| Front Page Top

#19 pihkalbadger, you're a Glaswegian? (WE = West End?) I hadn't picked up on that bit of information before. If you would, please share the overall mood in your burg regarding this crime and the sentencing. Are you aware of why Mushtaq was given such a quick parole? Did the media in your area also obscure the Pakistani origin of these men to the same degree as British media? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

My own personal read in this is that Islam has shown itself to be rather racist. Darfur is solid proof of this. While Muslims may come in many flavors and colors, only Arab Wahabism and Salafism is putting itself up as the Master Race. Therefore, I firmly believe that Kriss' horrendous murder was not just racist but religiously driven as well.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-09 19:28|| 2006-11-09 19:28|| Front Page Top

#20 It is religiously motivated, there can be no doubt but when will many Caucasians understand that? The sooner they do, every good normal person on this planet will also benefit. Now the none too rich Scots are also wasting their taxpayers' money to keep these beasts alive.

Posted by Duh! 2006-11-09 22:34|| 2006-11-09 22:34|| Front Page Top

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