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2007-11-08 Home Front: Culture Wars
Founder of Weather Channel on Global Warming
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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-08 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11126 views ]  Top

#1 Huh? After every Ice Age - and the last one ended only 10,000 years ago - ice packs recede. There is slow warming for thousands of years and then cooling begins. Annual climatic changes are so slight and their effects so marginal that Gore-catastrophism is Pollyannish. That said, the alarmists are eating up comments by Ice Age deniers. So let's rely on science and not anti-Goreism. Science will marginalize his pack of clowns.
Posted by McZoid 2007-11-08 00:27||   2007-11-08 00:27|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't think it is necessarily so slow. Here's an article posted here a little while ago that suggests that these temperature changes can be quite abrupt.
Posted by gorb 2007-11-08 02:53||   2007-11-08 02:53|| Front Page Top

#3 I am a bit worried that when the scam will be finally obvious, it will damage the field of science for a while; general public will think twice/thrice about funding.

Well, OTOH, it may have a positive effect of intollerance to sci con jobs afterwards, a silver lining on a cloud.
Posted by twobyfour 2007-11-08 03:35|| http://www.twobyfour.nfo/]">[http://www.twobyfour.nfo/]  2007-11-08 03:35|| Front Page Top

#4 ION, watched COMET HOLMES last nite from Mangilao, Guam - unlike previous nites, there appeared to be REDDISH COLORS/AURAS to what was before whitish or whitish-yellow, indic to me that Holmes is truly breaking into two. Reminded me of Napoleon and sister Josephine, Phoebus Apollo and sister Phoebus Cyntheia, etc. MADONNA and her song "JESSIE" [Jesus]. *RUMORMILLNEWS > as of 11/5/2007, Holme's coma is getting bigger and now comprises over 1/2 the size of the Moon, despite suppos "leaving" the Terran System??? IN ANOTHER FUTURE TIME > WORLD MAY YET SEE THE FLYING, INTERTWINING WHITE DRAGON + RED/BLACK DRAGON(S) OF ARTHURIAN-MERLINIAN LORE. D *** NG IT, TIME TO SMOKE ANOTHER CIGARETE LIKE PEPE LE PEU!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-08 03:40||   2007-11-08 03:40|| Front Page Top

#5 COMET HOLMES > Victim of a COSMIC SHOOTOUT? Ala the COLOR OF MONEY and "Vincent" as Tom Cruise - IT IN THE WAY THAT YOU USE IT....Mary Elizabeth Mastroantonio.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-08 04:40||   2007-11-08 04:40|| Front Page Top

#6 green is the new gold
Posted by Glaling Turkeyneck1651 2007-11-08 05:06||   2007-11-08 05:06|| Front Page Top

#7 The skeptics need to create a basic data table to refute the MMGW crowd. Each data set must have a source reference from a major scientific organization. It must also be organized to include the various measurement standards and conversion factors, such and Gigatons and Pentagrams (roughly equivalent).

The table should start with ttl CO2 in the atmosphere, about 800 Gigatons.

Then it should have amount of natural CO2 sourced annually, and amount of natural CO2 sunk annually. With a breakdown of major sources and sinks.

Then it should have amount of man made CO2 sourced annually, and amount of man made CO2 sunk annually. With a breakdown of major sources and sinks.

Then, the cumulative amount of post-industrialism man made CO2 in the atmosphere, as a percentage of the total (determined by isotopic differences between natural and man made CO2). And association with what is believed to be the increase in atmospheric concentrations in that time (now said to be about 100ppm). This needs to be more current than the oft-quoted, but old Mauna Loa measurements.

Then it should have a list of the greenhouse *factors* (to include things like cloud cover and soot, not just gases and water vapor), and the greenhouse gases percentage of influence within them. And man made all greenhouse gases percentage of that percentage.

Then it should have a list of the greenhouse gases, broken down by gas type and its individual percentage of influence among the gases, both natural and man made. And man made CO2’s percentage of that.

Finally, it needs to include and quantify external factors influencing planetary warming, such as cosmic radiation and solar intensity.

Creating such a data table will aid immeasurably in refuting the MMGW crowd. And the sources will be cross examined, so need to be available online.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-11-08 06:59||   2007-11-08 06:59|| Front Page Top

#8 As the moonbats say "Speaking Truth to Power"
Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-11-08 07:00||   2007-11-08 07:00|| Front Page Top

#9 Nah, Brer. "Speaking Truth to Power" is only when the moonbats rant off about something. If someone calls them on their bullshit, it's either ignored or used as proof that this person "sold out", "refuses to face reality", is "ignorant".....you get the idea.
Posted by Swamp Blondie 2007-11-08 08:02||   2007-11-08 08:02|| Front Page Top

#10 It is rather impressive how the hype, hysteria and politics of global warming have gotten out ahead of the science. And by impressive I mean disturbing and stupid.
Posted by SteveS 2007-11-08 08:34||   2007-11-08 08:34|| Front Page Top

#11 I am a bit worried that when the scam will be finally obvious, it will damage the field of science for a while; general public will think twice/thrice about funding.

That would be good. It would create the environment in which a learning moment can occur. The scientists could learn they are human and that when they lie to other people, other people make them pay a price when they finally discover the truth the scientists have hidden.

It's the same kind of moment the borrowers and lenders who brought us the subprime mess need to have. We spend too much time and money insulating people from the consequences of their own mistakes which only allows them to err longer and makes the final correction much more painful than would be necessary if we were less sympathetic to people suffering for their own stupidity in the first place.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-08 09:09||   2007-11-08 09:09|| Front Page Top

#12 He is well read (probably more so than Al Gore) and a charitable fellow (also probably more so than Al Gore) so I have heard.

However, his opinion is still a layman's opinion.

He has done no original research in this field.
Posted by mhw 2007-11-08 10:29||   2007-11-08 10:29|| Front Page Top

#13 That's okay though. The people claiming there is man made global warming haven't done any original research in this field either.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2007-11-08 11:21||   2007-11-08 11:21|| Front Page Top

#14 The scientists could learn they are human and that when they lie to other people, other people make them pay a price when they finally discover the truth the scientists have hidden.

Could we bring back burning at the stake? Or some other horrific form of execution from the middle-ages. It might make future grifters think twice.
Posted by Hupeager Prince of the Danes1987 2007-11-08 14:02||   2007-11-08 14:02|| Front Page Top

#15 He has done no original research in this field.

Over a half century studying the weather is decent for me. He knows more than all those "scientists" put together. Hardly a layman.

Let me tell you about this guy. I watch him every night here in San Diego. He is by far the most seasoned weatherman in the nation. Yes, he did found the weather channel but has also been a TV weatherman since 1953 when TV was new. He has seen these fads come and go. Of course this is the mother of all hoaxes. After years of watching him every night I can tell you he is just a downright sensible guy. Oh, and by the way, his forecasts are the most accurate around here and the only ones I will listen to.
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2007-11-08 14:02||   2007-11-08 14:02|| Front Page Top

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