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2004-11-08 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-11-08 1:02:34 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11140 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The MSM is back on its bloody street fighting meme again. The media evokes visions of Stalingrad or Hue, when its more likely to be the battle of Baghdad again. Irregulars in fixed positions getting slaughtered by better armed and better organized forces with air and artillery.

Posted by phil_b 2004-11-08 1:43:27 AM|| 2004-11-08 1:43:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm late to the party due to a server crash, but I love the ROE for Fallujah. Of course, phil_b, the MSM will spin it as usual. Racing cars full of pregnant women in labor under curfew, or puppies and kittens to the local equivalent of the Humane Society, all blown up by the American infantry... oh, wait, no puppies under Islam. Never mind the last.

Posted by Asedwich 2004-11-08 1:54:07 AM|| 2004-11-08 1:54:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I have never been prouder to be an American.

God bless, save, and protect our history-making soldiers!

Posted by Wuzzalib 2004-11-08 3:00:59 AM|| 2004-11-08 3:00:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The ~~invaders~~ good guys used special tools, powered by .22 caliber blanks, to break open door locks.

How do these work? 22 cal is a really light round for picking locks.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2004-11-08 8:15:24 AM|| 2004-11-08 8:15:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Some sort of retained bolt gun? Like a slaughterhouse stun gun? Such a device could just whack the lock, without the risk of ricocheting rounds.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-11-08 8:32:36 AM|| 2004-11-08 8:32:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Works like this:

.22 sized charge fired into the cylinder of the lock. Pressure makes a decent seal. Cylinder (instead of a bullet) gets fired out - but since the seal is less than perfect and the cylinder is far heaver than a 22 round it doesnt go far, just out of the lock in pieces. Lock gutted, shackle can be moved, Door open.

Done right, it can be fairly quiet in the hallway, although there is no mistaking the breach in the room.

Don't ask me how I know.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-08 9:05:06 AM|| 2004-11-08 9:05:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 #3 - my thoughts exactly.

#6 very interesting.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-11-08 10:13:18 AM|| 2004-11-08 10:13:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Old Spook, we all believe that you personally invented these toys, but are too modest to say so. Or at least that you've played with them once or twice. But we would never, ever ask ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2004-11-08 10:14:17 AM|| 2004-11-08 10:14:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 See! We really, really do!

Posted by trailing wife 2004-11-08 10:14:54 AM|| 2004-11-08 10:14:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 LOL I saw one on TV looks like a device I have used in the past with some modifications. They are used to put fasteners through steel and concrete. They do appear to have some recoil

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-11-08 10:34:01 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2004-11-08 10:34:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 "Let's put it this way, Doctor: You can continue working, for us, or you can go join your jihadi buddies in the detention camp. Your choice."

Posted by mojo 2004-11-08 10:51:33 AM|| 2004-11-08 10:51:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Generally called a ramset,Sock.with the right cartridge it will drive 16-penny nail right through a 2x4.

Posted by raptor 2004-11-08 12:33:39 PM|| 2004-11-08 12:33:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 hilti or ramset, either powder-actuated anchors will take out concrete/masonry - a steel lock is nothing

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-08 12:40:29 PM|| 2004-11-08 12:40:29 PM|| Front Page Top

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