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2004-11-05 Europe
Dutch Cabinet 'declares war' on Islamic extremism
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Posted by Steve 2004-11-05 3:27:55 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm sure that they'll track down all of their internal Islamofascists and lecture them very sternly. Nothing like a good death squad to prod socialist politicians into action.
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-05 3:49:00 PM||   2004-11-05 3:49:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 No decision was taken about the mosque.

Turn it into a porno moviehouse.
Posted by tu3031 2004-11-05 3:49:32 PM||   2004-11-05 3:49:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Or a bathhouse/casino.
Posted by BH 2004-11-05 3:54:46 PM||   2004-11-05 3:54:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hmmmm. This just might be worth watching. The Dutch are anything but stupid... They mainly suffer from their geography, not their lack of intelligence or stones. Whacking public figures has, indeed, resulted in discussing and acting in ways that are still unthinkable in their neighbors, no? They might just "get it" if the Islamofools don't "get it" first and move elsewhere to ply their murderous trade.
Posted by .com 2004-11-05 3:57:23 PM||   2004-11-05 3:57:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Watch for the name Victor Koppe to surface periodically. He seems to be the lawyer of choice of the Dutch mujahideen. I'd really like to know how he gets paid and by whom.
Posted by Seafarious  2004-11-05 3:59:23 PM||   2004-11-05 3:59:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Better idea. Turn it into a synagogue. For centuries Muslims have been transforming churches and sysnagogues into mosques. Noiw it is payback time.
Posted by JFM  2004-11-05 5:11:43 PM||   2004-11-05 5:11:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Something tells me that the fact the jihadis hit a Dutchman while he was cycling may have been the last straw. That's like taking out an American while he is barbequeing with friends.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-11-05 5:12:03 PM||   2004-11-05 5:12:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes...... (I live in Holland) this is goin to be so funny to watch, I would respectfully like to request the VRWC to consider a masive popcorn-airdrop on the my coordinates...........
Posted by Heysenbergwashere 2004-11-05 5:12:21 PM||   2004-11-05 5:12:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 What are they going to do?

Shout Thou Shalt Not Kill at them?
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-11-05 5:26:38 PM||   2004-11-05 5:26:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I am hoping for massive forced deportations.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-11-05 5:31:00 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-11-05 5:31:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Let just say that a picture of the key-stone cops would go much better with this article......
Posted by Heysenbergwashere 2004-11-05 5:32:05 PM||   2004-11-05 5:32:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry that comment was ment for # 9 CF
Posted by Heysenbergwashere 2004-11-05 5:33:01 PM||   2004-11-05 5:33:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 or the thre stooges.....
Posted by Heysenbergwashere 2004-11-05 5:34:59 PM||   2004-11-05 5:34:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 CF - I saw that story - and was stunned by the sheer stupidity. Truly amazing. I suggest that, under the best circumstances and giving them (endless? no...) benefit of the doubt, it might be an indicator of Local vs National... Upstream they appear to be figuring it out. In a given locale, however, it's obvious that the local "authorities" are still PC blind. Time and future events could, indeed, change things for the better. I hold out hope for the Dutch, Danes, Germans, and our UK cousins. They just don't take it all that well when hit - so hits will tell the tale, IMHO.
Posted by .com 2004-11-05 5:35:08 PM||   2004-11-05 5:35:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Rather typical for mainland Europe - it isn't a problem until it's THEIR problem.
Posted by jaybat 2004-11-05 6:10:38 PM||   2004-11-05 6:10:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 But the very wording of the announcement shows that they've got it wrong already. There is no 'islamic extremism', there is only islam.

"Minister Zalm stressed Friday that the Muslim community must not be judged on the actions of a 'small radicalising group'." There they go again, in denial to the last.

"Zalm rejected speculation the government had fallen behind in the fight against Islamic extremism, pointing out that many people who had been threatened with death had not been killed."
So the fact that she hasn't been killed, despite needing round-the-clock armed protection, is judged as success?
Posted by Ulique Snearong2968 2004-11-05 6:18:13 PM||   2004-11-05 6:18:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 There is no 'islamic extremism', there is only islam.

Bull. That's like saying there was no Spanish Inquisition, there was only Christianity. Or that there existed no Nazis, there existed only Germans. Or that there existed no white slaveowners, there existed only whites.

Minister Zalm stressed Friday that the Muslim community must not be judged on the actions of a 'small radicalising group'." There they go again, in denial to the last

You may be willing to give the Islamofascists guardianship and authority over the whole of Islam, others (both Muslims and non-Muslims) are not so eager.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-11-05 6:47:42 PM||   2004-11-05 6:47:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Um, didn't Christianity reform, or did I miss something?
Posted by Raj 2004-11-05 7:03:39 PM||   2004-11-05 7:03:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 "Van Gogh was shot and stabbed to death in Amsterdam on Tuesday and it is widely believed that he was murdered in reaction due to the broadcast of the film last August."
The extremists are so clueless that they think killing the messenger will kill the message. All they've done is magnify the message. On the other hand, instead of spending their time and money planning murders, they could make their own movie presenting their spin, in an effort to disprove Van Gogh's movie and gain support for their position. Apparently, the extremists are so brainwashed with hate, there's no room in their heads for anything else, like common sense.
Posted by Shari 2004-11-05 7:03:49 PM||   2004-11-05 7:03:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 You may be willing to give the Islamofascists guardianship and authority over the whole of Islam, others (both Muslims and non-Muslims) are not so eager

Hmmmmm... from the crickets chirping, the "others (both Muslims and non-Muslims)" must be taking it back stealthily, huh? Islamo-Guerillas For Peace™?
Posted by Frank G  2004-11-05 7:17:54 PM||   2004-11-05 7:17:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 WTF? I thought Aris vowed never to come back here.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-11-05 8:48:20 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-11-05 8:48:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 The recently deceased Van Gogh's message may have been magnified. But the mesage "Criticize Islam and be slaughtered" has also been heard loud and clear. Don't you think Dutch filmmakers will think long and hard before making another such film?
Posted by ed 2004-11-05 8:57:30 PM||   2004-11-05 8:57:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Hmmmmm... from the crickets chirping, the "others (both Muslims and non-Muslims)" must be taking it back stealthily, huh?

It's a law-enforcement issue, Frank. Twenty years of community-police work, followed by a program of really aggressive citation writing if they continue to misbehave.
Posted by Pappy 2004-11-05 9:18:42 PM||   2004-11-05 9:18:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Robert> "WTF? I thought Aris vowed never to come back here." No, I don't think I ever vowed anything like that. But your brain is still stuck on the same mindless, counterproductive, wasting-everyone's-bandwidth trolling loop, I see.

Raj> Um, didn't Christianity reform, or did I miss something?

Yeah, about 1700-1900 years after its creation, people started no longer dying for not being good Christians. But even before that time I'd not blame all Christians for the crimes of a few. Would you?
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-11-05 9:28:40 PM||   2004-11-05 9:28:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Certain varieties of European are very slow to anger, the Dutch among them. However, when they do get up a right royal rage they are very, very dangerous people. I would also note that while Christianity may be on the wane in northern Europe, it is being replaced not by Islam, but by the quaint traditions of their forebears, the Vikings. And worshippers of Odin, Thor, Tyr and Freya do not really embrace the whole "Turn the other cheek" philosophy.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-11-05 9:32:29 PM||   2004-11-05 9:32:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Islam doesn't need reform any more than Christianity needed reform during the Inquisition. What Christianity needed back then was for Christians to stand up and run a sword through the lunatics running (and ruining) their religion. Muslims need to do the same now.
Posted by jaybat 2004-11-05 9:33:50 PM||   2004-11-05 9:33:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Here is an English translation of the letter stabbed onto Van Gogh's chest: OPEN LETTER TO HIRSHI ALI

Also at PeakTalk.
Posted by ed 2004-11-05 10:10:23 PM||   2004-11-05 10:10:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Forgot to credit the link to the translation: http://www.zachtei.nl/ via PeakTalk. Interesting Dutch blog.
Posted by ed 2004-11-05 10:21:10 PM||   2004-11-05 10:21:10 PM|| Front Page Top

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