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2004-10-18 Iraq-Jordan
Fallujans flee en masse, Zarqawi's gonna fight
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-10-18 2:54:45 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Salim’s thinking provides a glimpse into the world view of ordinary Fallujans, who say they are torn between their wish for peace, their opposition to the US presence, and their disgust for the tactics of terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, which include suicide bombings, attacks, and kidnappings of foreigners that have ended in gruesome videotaped beheadings.

This sentence sums up the problems and tough choices of the civilians in Fallujah. Nobody wants an occupying power in their land, even if it is us lovable cuddly Merkins. However, due to circumstances beyond their control, Fallujah has become one of those points of focus and conflict in the WoT, just like innumerable other towns in WW2, Korea, Viet Nam, etc.

Because of the nature of the conflict, civilians wanting to be left alone and hoping to be left out of the conflict will realize that they will not get what they want. They will have 4 choices:
1. Flee Fallujah for a while until the conflict ends and hope that their homes were not trashed or destroyed during the conflict.
2. Throw their lot in with Zarqawi in hopes that he will win.
3. Assist the Coalition in ratting out Zarqawi and his minions so these thugs and their heinous activities are forever gone from Fallujah.
4. Straddle the fence and play both sides.

The head of the household will pick No. 1 if he values the safety and existance of his family.

Picking No. 2 means that he is an idiot, as it is only a matter of time before the terrorists are exterminated.

Picking No. 3 would be a couragous thing to do, but it is fraught with danger, esp. to his family.

Picking No. 4 means that he is a total moron.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-10-18 3:34:42 PM||   2004-10-18 3:34:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 We may or may not bag Zaraqawi personally, but there is no doubt at all that his cannon-fodder will be slaughtered in a sniper-fest of unprecented proportions. In making a 19th century technology, the sniper rifle, our most feared weapon, US forces have directly confronted and destroyed one of the left's favorite strawmen, that American forces are cowards who rely solely much on high technology.
I seriously think that we should further defy international propaganda by displaying Zaraqawi's severed head on television, thereby exposing the craven hypocrisy of those who would react with horror and outrage to this after doing everything possible to justify Zarqawi's own, much worse, outrages.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-10-18 3:56:48 PM||   2004-10-18 3:56:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Er, "unprecedented"
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-10-18 3:57:49 PM||   2004-10-18 3:57:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I second that notion, Atomic Conspiracy; either show his head on TV, or prod him in public with his genitals removed!
Posted by smn 2004-10-18 4:04:41 PM||   2004-10-18 4:04:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Do you think that Al-Jazz would play the pic of Zarqawi's head on a stick, or would that be too in-sennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-sitive?
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-10-18 4:11:22 PM||   2004-10-18 4:11:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 oh! the humiliation! the Arab Street™ would seethe!
Posted by Frank G  2004-10-18 4:12:30 PM||   2004-10-18 4:12:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 the "Ultimate Humiliation" for Zarqawi's "Ultimate Jihad" -

Through him in a vat full of of pig guts, heads and feet, used sanitary napkins, piss, and brown trout. Make him wallow around in that for a while and then parade him down the street nude, in chains with panties on his head, and on 2 leashes that are led by a dog and monkey while people spit on him.

I'd execute him by suffocation by stuffing pages from Allan's Korn down his throat.
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-10-18 4:21:33 PM||   2004-10-18 4:21:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 This sentence sums up the problems and tough choices of the civilians in Fallujah.

It's not rocket science, and the seeming inability of the typical Fallujan to comprehend the matter is rather pathetic. The problem is the presence of Zarqawi and people of his mindset, and when these types are finally tossed out, peace will surely follow. The only question is whether Iraqis or the U.S. will do it. And a U.S. presence is going to be unavoidable, so these idiots are going to have to get used to it. They could help themselves a lot more if they decided to wise up and straighten their act out.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-10-18 4:29:14 PM||   2004-10-18 4:29:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "Violence begets violence," says Salim

Heh! Got that right, Salim. Fallujans allowed the "insurgents" to beget violence on our troops and now the Fallujans are going to beget'n it back in a very big way.

Since 9/11, the only wha-wha-wha that Americans are interested in is that from our victims here at home.
Posted by 2b 2004-10-18 4:32:16 PM||   2004-10-18 4:32:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 someone explain too me why we keep having peace talks with a bunch of killers who are against peace?
Posted by smokeysinse 2004-10-18 5:07:36 PM||   2004-10-18 5:07:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Number 4 is the arab way AP and we must be senstive to their nuances.

Or shoot them, whichever is cheaper.
Posted by Shipman 2004-10-18 5:37:36 PM||   2004-10-18 5:37:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Number 4 is what the ME keeps trying. We must show them a better way, be it JDAM, Barrett, etc., or sitting down and reasoning together in the spirit of brotherly love and the fellowship of man. (Backed by JDAM, Barrett, etc.)
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-10-18 5:47:28 PM||   2004-10-18 5:47:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 someone explain too me why we keep having peace talks with a bunch of killers who are against peace?

So we have time to lay out all the best lines of fire?
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-18 6:17:08 PM||   2004-10-18 6:17:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Seems like the prudent thing to do is get Zarquawi and his thugs ASAP. This should straighten out a lot of problems both here and there.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2004-10-18 6:39:38 PM||   2004-10-18 6:39:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I'd play a tune on my nanoviolin, but I sneezed and have no idea where it is now on my desk...
Posted by Ptah  2004-10-18 7:10:00 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2004-10-18 7:10:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 "I think the Americans will wipe Fallujah from the map." Ok who leaked our Super Secret plan? I hope this is the plan, if not it ought to be!
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-10-18 7:15:25 PM||   2004-10-18 7:15:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 dont mean get offn subject and mebe you guys are already discuss this but ima see this lefty blogs today http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7077.htm. any truth you guys are know to this? is china have osama?
Posted by muck4doo 2004-10-18 9:02:11 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-10-18 9:02:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Mucky that is some wacked out moonbatery.
If China had Ossama they would be publicizing it.
They have nothing to gain by hiding him and trading him to "Bush"
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-18 9:15:02 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-10-18 9:15:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Well, Mucky, you've provided a link. That's evidence. Incontrovertible. I'm Sold.
Posted by Mickey Silvester 2004-10-18 9:16:40 PM||   2004-10-18 9:16:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 yeah thatn what im figure. just wanted know ifn anyone else was heard somthin like this. theres lotsa peples out there right now who are believe it. figured i was ask you guys first.
Posted by muck4doo 2004-10-18 9:19:02 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-10-18 9:19:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Personally, I think the 21st century world needs an "example" city - something like Dresden in World War II - to represent the idea that local communities who side with arch-terrorists - or even tolerate their presence - lose their rights to persist as recognizable human habitations.

As far as I am concerned, if educated people all over the world - the next 100 - or even 1,000 years - whisper the name "Fallujah"in referring to the ultimate destruction that can befall a small town that sponsors terrorist assholes - the the people of Fallujah will have fulfilled their destinies.

Cry me a river ....

Forever more: "This shattered landscape is what is left of the site that was once known as the town of Fallujah - before the inhabitants allowed foreign terrorists to take over"
Posted by Lone Ranger 2004-10-18 9:26:33 PM||   2004-10-18 9:26:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Which should we sue, MOAB plus or MOAB Pro?
Posted by Mickey Silvester 2004-10-18 9:32:33 PM||   2004-10-18 9:32:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 After they get him...Can I buy Zarqawi's balls? I would like to hang them over my fireplace for christmas, along with two little bells!
Posted by smn 2004-10-18 11:22:09 PM||   2004-10-18 11:22:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Raze Fallujah and salt the ground. Film it. Distribute DVDs. Make sure it becomes a legend told thousands of years from now, as the destruction of Carthage is still told.

I am very serious.

That town must be made an example. It doesn't matter how many people die there (or rather it does, as it did in Hiroshima, Dresden, Tokyo, and Berlin). If we are going to WIN this WAR we must be willing to DESTROY the ENEMY no matter how many INNOCENTS die BECAUSE of the enemy's EVIL actions.

If we shrink from destroying the enemy's nest, the West is doomed.

And by the way, the enemy's true nests are in Mecca and Tehran.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-10-19 12:03:14 AM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/]  2004-10-19 12:03:14 AM|| Front Page Top

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