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2016-10-16 Home Front: Culture Wars

NAACP Set To Denounce Charter Schools, Although Blacks Love Them

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-16 03:39|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 Back to your huts! We know what's best for you.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-10-16 03:48|| 2016-10-16 03:48|| Front Page Top

#2 Just protecting their business.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-10-16 05:13|| 2016-10-16 05:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Teachers Unions hate Charters. Gotta stay on the plantation

Posted by Frank G 2016-10-16 07:39|| 2016-10-16 07:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Consider the NAACP an arm of the Democratic Party and charter schools not a part of their outreach program. Teacher unions do hate charter schools therefore charter schools must be good for education.

Posted by JohnQC 2016-10-16 08:03|| 2016-10-16 08:03|| Front Page Top

#5 no doubt they still use that argument that charter schools take money from public schools for each student.

Of course the public school has less need for funding with less students but they are *really* bad at math.

Posted by CrazyFool 2016-10-16 08:24|| 2016-10-16 08:24|| Front Page Top

#6 So we know now that the 'black community' is on a lower rung than than the 'teachers' union. Can't tell a player without a score card in this game.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-10-16 08:31|| 2016-10-16 08:31|| Front Page Top

#7 With a blacks who can compete without affirmative action, what NAACP do for a living?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-10-16 08:36|| 2016-10-16 08:36|| Front Page Top

#8 That's about the gist of it, g(r)om.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2016-10-16 09:22|| 2016-10-16 09:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Gotta keep them from going off the reservation. They actually might get a good education and start thinking for themselves!

Can't have that!

Posted by DarthVader 2016-10-16 09:37|| 2016-10-16 09:37|| Front Page Top

#10 ...the public school has less need for funding with less students...

Charter schools take the students with the most motivated parents, who pretty much correlate with the best students. Very few children are innately driven and disciplined enough to to do well in school without parental involvement.

So, the most motivated, best behaved students gone, the ones who cost the district least to educate. And the schools are left with the expensive to educate ones: those who cause trouble, who don't care, and who struggle with learning disabilities.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-10-16 09:57|| 2016-10-16 09:57|| Front Page Top

#11 ...so the Detroitification of public schools. Been going on as long as the base origin of the word. Something in common with both.

Posted by Procopius2k 2016-10-16 11:52|| 2016-10-16 11:52|| Front Page Top

#12 Disgusting.

Posted by newc 2016-10-16 15:54|| 2016-10-16 15:54|| Front Page Top

#13 Good points TW. Didn't think of that aspect.

Posted by CrazyFool 2016-10-16 17:11|| 2016-10-16 17:11|| Front Page Top

#14 And the schools are left with the expensive to educate ones: those who cause trouble, who don't care, and who struggle with learning disabilities.

This is a standard teacher's union talking point about why charter schools are the work of Satan. And it's true. Thing is, the public schools already have these students. And not surprisingly, the schools do a crappy job of educating them.

Public school is basically Henry Ford's assembly line applied to kids: you take a bunch of similar units, run them all thru the same process and out comes a useful product. The catch is your 'similar units' actually need to be similar, otherwise your outputs are all over the map. With engine blocks, you can just scrap your failures and start over. Here, we just push our bad units on to the next stage and eventual failure. Or affirmative action.

Worse, a teacher dealing with the outburst of the moment is not helping other students who might be there to learn. Think of it as one bad engine block stopping the line which means none of the other engine blocks are learning anything. (Mixed Metaphor Alert!).

Posted by SteveS 2016-10-16 19:58|| 2016-10-16 19:58|| Front Page Top

#15 Society's leaders are the top 2%. Might as well admit it and educate them properly, otherwise the remaining 98% will drag them down.

Posted by gorb 2016-10-16 21:48|| 2016-10-16 21:48|| Front Page Top

#16 This is a standard teacher's union talking point about why charter schools are the work of Satan.

Yes, SteveS. The thing is, when you have a specific type of student to teach, you can target your techniques to what is most effective for that population. Not interested but able? Go for uniforms and small, visible achievements that are rewarded until they feel themselves an elite. Troublemakers? Visible security authorized to intervene physically with immediate punishment, uniforms, and privileges restored one by one as each entire class's behaviour meets simple and stated improvement goals, with the troublemakers who wrecked it each time named and shamed. Learning disabilities? Small classes that with lots of teachers aids for one-on-one work and behaviour control. Of course this takes good teachers who really known their stuff and are worth paying more, not union drones.

Or so it seems to me.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-10-16 22:09|| 2016-10-16 22:09|| Front Page Top

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