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2006-10-10 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by .com 2006-10-10 06:14|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1736 views since 2007-05-07] Top

1 We need to accelerate our withdrawal of ground forces from SK.

Ideally, we can get Japan on board for whatever we need to do after that. The election of Abe as new PM is a good sign.

If the regime does not fall due to sanctions and whatever else we are doing to them behind the scenes (interdiction of exports, blocking of financial transactions, etc.)we need to start bombing regime and WMD targets in NK. It is critical to demonstrate that we are not deterred by Kimmies nukes.

SK is now essentially allied with NK and we need to start viewing them as an adversary. The biggest flaw in much of the post-test analysis is the idea that they are our allies.

SK become spoiled under the US security umbrella. If not for the US military, those ingrates would be eating grass soup right now with their Northern brethren. However, nationalism and the leftward policy drift that comes with outsourcing security to the US military (see western Europe) plus a uniquely Korean level of selfishness (unlike the Germans, they have no interest in funding reunification) and corruption (they bought a Nobel peace prize for the Sunshine policy) have made SK de facto allies of Kim.

I do not want to hear the excuse about how NK can take out Seoul with its artillery. SK chose where to build and, in doing so, made a conscious decision to give Kim undue influence over their policy. I understand the evacuation routes and procedures for the capital are well designed. If SK had cooperated with the US in undermining Kimmies regime they may never have had to use them. Unfortunately they are now at the poing where civil defense drills would be a good idea.

Posted by JAB 2006-10-10 09:29|| 2006-10-10 09:29|| Front Page Top

2 Very well reasoned IMO.

We simply have to tell Kimmie something along the lines of,

"Kimmie, here's the facts, straight up and with no bluster - grow up and act responsibly or we will erase your country and there's nothing you, the Chinese, or the Russkies can do about it. If we catch you exporting this stuff, we'll nuke you into the next millenia. If you launch a missile without letting us know that it's a test well beforehand, we'll nuke you till the glow won't die down until the year ten thousand. If you even look sideways at any of your neighbors or our allies we'll nuke you till there's nothing left of your country except ten thousand feet of ocean above it. You've chosen to become a nuclear power. Now you have to act responsibly like a nuclear power. Grow up and deal with that fact or face the inevitable consequences. Thanks. Have a nice day. Buh-bye."

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2006-10-10 09:34|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2006-10-10 09:34|| Front Page Top

3 Ban all Hennessy exports now to North Korea. Nuke France if they ship kimmy any.

Posted by 3dc 2006-10-10 09:36|| 2006-10-10 09:36|| Front Page Top

4 The LAT is correct. We should speak directly to the Norks. But we don't have to go to the espense of sending an envoy to Pyongyang. Ideally we should have John Bolton or Rummy or Condi send out a press release on PR Newswire with the target sheet for Nork in the event there is detonation of a nuclear weapon in malice anywhere in the world from any origin. The press release should make clear that we would not launch until we were confident that fallout would not be carried over SoKor. It should also make clear that there would be no living mammal remaining in North Korean territory and that we do not know when North Korean territory would again be habitable.

We should leave troops in SoKor to show our intention to honor our fallout pledge. But those troops should only have enough transit capacity to boggy back to Japan in the event the Norks come south.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-10-10 09:43|| 2006-10-10 09:43|| Front Page Top

5 Move all US troops down to and no further north than Juksansong, and I might agree with US troops remaining in South Korea. Otherwise, pull all US troops out of South Korea unless and until the SKors start showing a backbone about Kimmie and his bloody regime.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-10-10 16:02|| 2006-10-10 16:02|| Front Page Top

6 I knew a Korean ROK Marine MSgt in Vietnam. He said he had lots of relatives in NKor, but that he didn't think very highly of them because they didn't try to defect. Apparently the entire family, both branches in NKor and SKor hate Kim and his father with a passion. He felt that reunification was bad, that the NKoreans were "unworthy" of being free. He hated the north more than he hated the Japanese, who had killed his father for some trivial reason. I don't think the south is all that enamoured with the north, or what's going on up there. I also believe they'll stand and fight to the last person if the north invades. An invasion would set both countries back 50 years. The south could survive that, but the regression to the north would result in stone-age living conditions.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-10-10 19:30|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-10-10 19:30|| Front Page Top

7 OP: Interesting perspective.

How exactly can NK be set back 50 years though. they were probably far better off in 1956 than now. Maybe 100,000 years.

Posted by JAB 2006-10-10 21:00|| 2006-10-10 21:00|| Front Page Top

8 It dawned on the LA Dog-Trainer that it's on the wrong coast...

Posted by Pappy 2006-10-10 21:37|| 2006-10-10 21:37|| Front Page Top

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