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2005-10-05 Home Front: WoT

Oklahoma Suicide Boomer Tried to Buy Ammonium Nitrate, Used TATP (updated)

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Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-10-05 09:59|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This guy was from Colorado - they've splashed his pic on the news allot here. The thing that surprised me was he had a long shaggy beard... made me go hmmm..

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2005-10-05 10:50|| 2005-10-05 10:50|| Front Page Top

#2 According to this report, Hinrichs "has no ties" to any terrorist organization, according to the FBI:

No, it says he has "no known links". The key word there is "known".

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-05 11:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-05 11:01|| Front Page Top

#3 I just knew it. Let's see how this either doesn't get picked up in the MSM or quietly goes away.
The ROP is a breeding ground of soft brained wanna be killers.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-10-05 11:11|| 2005-10-05 11:11|| Front Page Top

#4 Hinrichs "has no ties" to any terrorist organization apart from being a muslim

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2005-10-05 11:28|| 2005-10-05 11:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Does he fall under the "STUPID TERRORISTS" category???

Posted by ARMYGUY 2005-10-05 14:51|| 2005-10-05 14:51|| Front Page Top

#6 All I can say for sure is some weird stuff happens in Oklahoma but it always ends up being a lone wacko.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-10-05 15:27|| 2005-10-05 15:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Did better than the second London attack bless him.

Posted by Howard UK 2005-10-05 15:34|| 2005-10-05 15:34|| Front Page Top

#8 All I can say for sure is some weird stuff happens in Oklahoma but it always ends up being a lone wacko.

Odd, isn't it?

Anyone else remember why Steve Emerson thought "Islamist terrorism" first when he was asked about the Murrah building bombing?

It was because he first ran into American-based jihadis in Oklahoma City. He literally wandered into a convention there.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-05 15:59|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-05 15:59|| Front Page Top

#9 Allegedly they picked up his Paki roommate and a couple of others at a party Sat night.

Now it gets interesting......

Posted by anonymous2u 2005-10-05 16:24|| 2005-10-05 16:24|| Front Page Top

#10 My daughter knew him from Wasson High School. She started there as a freshman when John was a junior. Said he hardly ever spoke more than three words at a time, and pretty much kept to himself. He wasn't a known member of any of the normal high school 'groups', and didn't get involved in school activities. He graduated in 2002. If he's a junior at OU, he either didn't take a year off, or he made it up rather quickly.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2005-10-05 16:39|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2005-10-05 16:39|| Front Page Top

#11 I would have given Hinrichs being a muslim low probability, but now it is said he was attending the same Oklahoma City mosque as Zacarias Moussaoui. Another disturbed loner, like John Walker Lindh and Adam Gahdan, turned to the dark side. With the way Islam preys on the maladjusted and lonely, it is truly a cult. The FBI better sift through the OKC muslim population with a nano-strainer.

Posted by ed 2005-10-05 18:07|| 2005-10-05 18:07|| Front Page Top

#12 OP, his father said in an interview in the OU school paper that he'd taken a year off college due to depression. But the father also said he was at the top of his engineering class despite hating doing the maths, so if the boy took summer school classes he could easily have caught up by his junior year. Shoot, I earned almost a full third year of credits that way by the end of my sophomore year, and I was nothing special.

I'm a bit suspicious about the whole jihad thing, though -- if he meant harm rather than simple suicide, why did he seat himself far enough outside the stadium that only one person outside of the authorities even saw his damaged body, and only a few nearby building windows were broken? Bobmb-making appears to be pretty straightforward as far as I can tell (chemistry being one of my very weakest subjects), if more than a bit touchy chemically, and I thought engineers were taught to apply a 30% safety factor to their calculations... and yet his bomb didn't accomplish much beyond a personal level.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-05 18:57|| 2005-10-05 18:57|| Front Page Top

#13 TATP is notoriously unstable, TW. Has a tendency to create work accidents at times not of the engineer's choosing.

From what I've read, the area in question would have killed a lot of people if the bomb had gone off during half time or after the game.

Posted by Omerens Omaigum2983 2005-10-05 19:22|| 2005-10-05 19:22|| Front Page Top

#14 Malkin's latest post has an update from Tapscott:

A Lincoln Town Car believed driven by OU Suicide Bomber Joel Henry Hinrichs III remains in the parking lot of the apartment where he lived and a U.S. Department of Justice inventory of the contents found by law enforcement officials is visible on the seat, Tapscott's Copy Desk has learned.

Among the items listed on the inventory are "13 plastic bottles" in the trunk. The inventory did not note if there was anything in the bottles, their size or coloration.

Other items on the inventory include a title, insurance certificate, a 2003 Rand McNally Road Atlas and two other highway maps with undecipherable titles. The car's license tag is Oklahoma VUL014, with a February 2006 expiration date. Tapscott's Copy Desk has also learned that a tree near where Hinrichs' bomb detonated displays a number of small round holes and some areas of a metallic substance.

Small round holes? Ball bearings, maybe? Or just bone fragments?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-05 21:02|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-05 21:02|| Front Page Top

#15 Thanks for the clarification, Omerens Omaigum2983. As I said, weak in chemistry. Your and Robert's comments are making me rethink my position. Darn it -- I do hate having to think badly of people!

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-05 21:28|| 2005-10-05 21:28|| Front Page Top

#16 tw, last night I had written it off as a spectacular suicide. Unfortunately, the information coming out today makes that seem unlikely.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-05 21:31|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-05 21:31|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm trying to picture a Jihadi driving a Lincoln Town Car. That's a meat eating/martini drinking conservative's ride.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2005-10-05 23:21|| 2005-10-05 23:21|| Front Page Top

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