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2005-01-16 Home Front: WoT
Christian Family of Four Murdered..Internet Link
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Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 11:26:52 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11145 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This will go far in allowing the average American to get a clue. Expect more of this coming to you soon. It's ok though, we must respect their diversity and culture.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 11:53:10 AM||   2005-01-16 11:53:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 GMTA 2b. This story has a certain feel to it. Hope it has legs.
Posted by Shipman 2005-01-16 11:57:26 AM||   2005-01-16 11:57:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Throats cut after speaking out against Islam?Check.(c.f.;van gogh murder last month).Meanwhile,elsewhere in the US,Fox agreed to run 2 PSAs depicting Muslims in a positive light after the Fox show "24"depicted Muslims as terrorists.
Posted by Me 2005-01-16 12:25:57 PM||   2005-01-16 12:25:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Can't wait for the MSM outrage about this.

Just imagine - Saying bad things against islam!

/SARCASM OFF

Does anyone have a link the the guys writing? I think perhaps we should publisize it far and wide. this guys is a true Martyr - the 'islamic' ones are just murderers.
The MSM will ignore this while soddomizing that Prison abuse dead horse. Truely disgusting!

FYI - this happened in Jersey City - Inside the United States. The FBI is investigating....
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-01-16 12:40:41 PM||   2005-01-16 12:40:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 
I live in New Jersey, and this murder was the main headline in the local newspapers. My first thought was that the family was murdered by Islamicists.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-01-16 12:46:08 PM||   2005-01-16 12:46:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Shipman, we really don't know at this time whether the story has legs as far as a jihadist link. I can see where someone might be active in an internet chatroom and someone might over time piece together the identity of the individual from various comments even though a peudoname is used. I can see a jihadist nutcase motive. There is no reason not to believe there is an enemy amonst us hatching up evil. You are correct, we don't really know at this time what the story is.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 1:56:03 PM||   2005-01-16 1:56:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I think John Q. meant "psuedonym"....
Posted by Sheik Abu Bin Ali Al-Yahood 2005-01-16 2:04:36 PM||   2005-01-16 2:04:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I knew that. I just thought his typing was as bad as mine.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-16 2:05:37 PM||   2005-01-16 2:05:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ooops! And *I* meant "psEUdonym". Heh.
Posted by Sheik Abu Bin Ali Al-Yahood 2005-01-16 2:05:39 PM||   2005-01-16 2:05:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ma spellin and grammer ain't too guud.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 2:06:59 PM||   2005-01-16 2:06:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 By the way Mrs. D, thank you for the kindness and benefit of the doubt.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 2:08:16 PM||   2005-01-16 2:08:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Oh dear, I've used an archicism and given way my age. I should remember never to use typing and always use keyboarding. It's what the kids do now when it's too dark to skateboard.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-16 2:14:21 PM||   2005-01-16 2:14:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Here's the home site for IESpell. A very cool freebie spell-checker for IE. Custom dictionary, too. Works great.
Posted by .com 2005-01-16 2:27:11 PM||   2005-01-16 2:27:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Maybe the cops are looking at people who have slit throats in the recent past.This list would include Muslims and...uhh...
Posted by Me 2005-01-16 3:07:44 PM||   2005-01-16 3:07:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 "I can say whatever I want," the friend said Armanious responded to those threatening to kill him for insulting Islam, "I live in America." And Armanious his wife, son and daughter were killed in America. Their throats were cut. The unfortunates never knew: Americans are already fearful and in control of Islamic terrorists.
Posted by anon 2005-01-16 3:24:07 PM||   2005-01-16 3:24:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 yeah, right JQ. Probably just a random family throat slitting.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 3:38:31 PM||   2005-01-16 3:38:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#17  Americans are already fearful and in control of Islamic terrorists

I call Bullshit. Nice craven generality based on what? a single episode?
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-16 3:45:57 PM||   2005-01-16 3:45:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Moderate Muslim outcry in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... 0 ... .0 ... .00 ... .000 ... .0000 .......

[crickets]
Posted by Zenster 2005-01-16 3:53:40 PM||   2005-01-16 3:53:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 .com Thanks for the ieSpell. Downloaded it. Seems to work fine.

My hunch is that the throat slittings are Islamos. Doesn't NJ have a large Muslim population?
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 5:48:02 PM||   2005-01-16 5:48:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 "Americans are already fearful and in control of Islamic terrorists"

Nope. My wife and I just had a great day out at the rifle range. All patriotic Americans should be armed and dangerous.
Posted by Glenmore  2005-01-16 5:50:06 PM||   2005-01-16 5:50:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 John Q: huge. Almost Dearborn-East
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-16 5:50:36 PM||   2005-01-16 5:50:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 the day we become that fearful is the day Moskkks become no-man's land
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-16 5:51:42 PM||   2005-01-16 5:51:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 "Americans are already fearful and in control of Islamic terrorists"

Is there supposed to be a "the" after "of?" If this is the intent, I don't know anyone like this. Most Americans I know exercise a lot of self-restraint. And yes Frank G., I also believe "All patriotic Americans should be armed and dangerous."
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 6:04:24 PM||   2005-01-16 6:04:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 yep
Posted by Frank G  2005-01-16 6:07:10 PM||   2005-01-16 6:07:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Should own a good dawg or two or three. Rotweillers are great to augment home defense.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 6:10:57 PM||   2005-01-16 6:10:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Well lets see...

CNN ... no mention....

ABC News ... no mention ...

NBC News ... No mention ...

Washington Post... No mention ...

NYT ... no mention....

Are you sure this happened?

CBS News.... No mention ...

BBC ... no mention ..

Now I just scanned the headlines. perhaps they buried it but it seems the MSM is mostly ignoring it.
Posted by Glereger Chavimble7727 2005-01-16 6:13:38 PM||   2005-01-16 6:13:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Fox is reporting this story frequently today. MSM does not seem to be picking the story up.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 6:19:05 PM||   2005-01-16 6:19:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 The institutional media (so-called MSM) have been soft-peddling the Mohammedan terrorist connection. We can bet that hey will continue to sow confusion about the case whenever possible, or even to use their usual techniques to invite wholly false conclusions among the viewing audience. Fox TV (yes, Fox) initially reported that the victims were a MUSLIM family and repeated this three times before they corrected it without comment.
Other MSM can be expected to refer to them as Egyptian or Arab immigrants, with no reference to their Christian religion, thereby inviting conformist consumer-units that they were Muslim.

lately...
"Let's quit pissin' the Arabs off and just buy their oil. Why should we worry about Israel? We live on the other side of the world."

later....
"Why should we worry about New Jersey? We live in Texas."

later still...
"Why should we worry about Dallas? We live in Lubbock."

Even later yet...
"Why should we worry about Guadalupe [the local ghetto]? We live in Lakeridge [upscale suburb]."

too late...
"OH MY GOD, THEY'RE HERE! HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?"
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-01-16 6:20:39 PM||   2005-01-16 6:20:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 The institutional media (so-called MSM) have been soft-peddling the Mohammedan terrorist connection. We can bet that they will continue to sow confusion about the case whenever possible, or even to use their usual techniques to invite wholly false conclusions among the viewing audience. Fox TV (yes, Fox) initially reported that the victims were a MUSLIM family and repeated this three times before they corrected it without comment.
Other MSM can be expected to refer to them as Egyptian or Arab immigrants, with no reference to their Christian religion, thereby inviting conformist consumer-units to conclude that they were Muslim.

lately...
"Let's quit pissin' the Arabs off and just buy their oil. Why should we worry about Israel? We live on the other side of the world."

later....
"Why should we worry about New Jersey? We live in Texas."

later still...
"Why should we worry about Dallas? We live in Lubbock."

Even later yet...
"Why should we worry about Guadalupe [the local ghetto]? We live in Lakeridge [upscale suburb]."

too late...
"OH MY GOD, THEY'RE HERE! HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?"
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-01-16 6:22:03 PM||   2005-01-16 6:22:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 "All patriotic Americans should be armed and dangerous."

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Posted by Zenster 2005-01-16 6:33:20 PM||   2005-01-16 6:33:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Wow..amazing that all of those broadcasts failed to cover it. Well...good....CNN/BBC/WAPO/CBS/NBC/NYT... keep dancing little puppets...dance for your puppet masters, while the rest of us have a good laugh watching you pretend.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 6:36:44 PM||   2005-01-16 6:36:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 heh...that was a pretty sucky little analogy in my post above. Oh...well..you get the idea.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 7:26:08 PM||   2005-01-16 7:26:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 For some reason the story is not being picked up. The New York Post Online reported the story; however, there is no mention of a Muslim terrorist possibilities as was mentioned in this post. http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/38587.htm
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-16 7:59:26 PM||   2005-01-16 7:59:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Draudge has it so the MSM will ignore it at their peril I hope.

This is bad news.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-16 8:00:07 PM||   2005-01-16 8:00:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 For some reason the story is not being picked up. Gosh I wonder what that reason could be??

Thanks for the update JQC. It's shocking, really.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 8:01:41 PM||   2005-01-16 8:01:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 Jeez, I get a new IP address, and suddenly I'm in the doghouse. RoadsideAmerica does look mighty strange this month.

If my last comment was too far off, please do let me know.
Posted by Asedwich  2005-01-16 8:05:36 PM||   2005-01-16 8:05:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 At some point, I'd like to see an indepth story as to money trails of these news sources. It would be almost impossible for someone to follow, because even if these papers are receiving funds from nefarious sources, it would be laundered in advertising fees, false circulation numbers and newstand sales.

I keep wishing that they'd cross some line so that the FBI or CIA could do the work. I used to think it was just bias - but it's getting harder and harder not to think it's not just outright subversive, paid propaganda.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-16 8:07:06 PM||   2005-01-16 8:07:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 Drudge has dropped it, but Powerline has had it up all day.
Posted by Dishman  2005-01-16 8:08:18 PM||   2005-01-16 8:08:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 I am not shocked at all. Remember that the MSM refuses to mention that the 'hostage takers' in that Russian school were, to a person, Islamic. Nor will they ever mention that they would haul children off to rooms to be gang raped by the 'hostage takers' or that they bayonetted babies....

The MSM has been covering for the Islamist for a long, long, time but now, thanks to the internet and blogs, (and Drudge) they cant for very much longer.

BTW: I am Glereger Chavimble7727 above. Damn lost cookies.....
Posted by CrazyFool 2005-01-16 8:10:25 PM||   2005-01-16 8:10:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 .....haul children off to rooms to be gang raped.." Good God! Where do you hear that?

About the murders in New Jersey... we left SA for fear that what happened to that poor family could happen to us. That something like that has happened here is beyond my comprehension.
Posted by Anonymous4724 2005-01-16 9:27:58 PM||   2005-01-16 9:27:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 Anonymous4724: It never happened here for the sole reason we'd do something about it. Apparently someone decided to role the dice against us catching them. BIG MISTAKE. SA might not do anything, but I assure you people here in the US will.
Posted by Charles  2005-01-16 9:45:04 PM||   2005-01-16 9:45:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#42 Charles,

I sincerely hope so!
Posted by Anonymous4724 2005-01-16 9:52:59 PM||   2005-01-16 9:52:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#43 Aren't we missing the most important point about all of this? The Islamist terrorists who commited this outrage are here because of our BULLSHIT immigration/visa policies! We have let these creatures in our country out of some misbegotten sense that only a small minority of people of that pursuasion are actually radical and dangerous. Most people of that persuasion are either passive supporters, active supporters, utter cowards unwilling to be involved, or active terrorists.

Draconian restrictions on future entry and prioritized sweeps to deport those already here for even the most minor violations need to be the order of the day! Am I missing something here?
Posted by Schmoe, LTC Ret 2005-01-16 9:59:16 PM||   2005-01-16 9:59:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#44 This is a must read eyewitness account of the Beslan massacre.
They knifed babies, they raped girls.
Other survivors told how screaming teenage girls were dragged into rooms adjoining the gymnasium where they were being held and raped by their Chechen captors who chillingly made a video film of their appalling exploits

Also:
The Rape Jihad
Meanwhile, Indira Dzetskelova, the mother of one of the child hostages in Beslan, Russia, reports that "several 15-year-old girls were raped by terrorists." Her daughter "heard their terrible cries and screams when those monsters took them away."
Posted by ed 2005-01-16 10:18:20 PM||   2005-01-16 10:18:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#45 ed has the right links. And that is why I feel that the MSM is, with full knowledge, deliberately providing cover for the Islamic Jihadists and their acts.

In fact the MSM went out of their way to protry the islamists as 'freedom fighters'. Didn't Mike Al-Moore refer the them as the equivalent of 'minutemen'?
Posted by Glereger Chavimble7727 2005-01-16 10:59:52 PM||   2005-01-16 10:59:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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