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2023-09-24 Science & Technology
This is ‘SCIENCE.’ I Can Solve the Covid Vaccine Debate in One Week with This One Simple Question.
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Posted by Besoeker 2023-09-24 05:12|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11129 views ]  Top

#1 So why don't we see people harmed by the shot suing Pfizer? I mean, this is America - where somebody who been smoking for 50 years, despite all the warnings, can sue the tobacco company and get $10 million.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-24 05:43||   2023-09-24 05:43|| Front Page Top

#2 mRNA is not just in the Clot-shot.

After our 2nd round of Covid-19 back in August. We each were issued a 5 day supply of PAXLOVID.

Which was 3 pills per dose.
2x 300mg nirmatrelvir & 1x 100mg ritonavir taken twice daily.

We quickly noted Nirmatrelvir [PF-07321332], pills originated from the USA Pfizer lab & the Ritonavir came from India.

Oddly... When we asked if Nirmatrelvir it contained or was mRNA based. The Doctor, pharmacist and etc. all said NO.

But checking the internet and Pfizer websites. We see the "m" is absent and the sites now only speak of "RNA".

Guess what? Yes we have had some of the Clog-Shot side-effects also.

BTW: It took CVS 3 days to locate the Med and fill the scrip. PLUS CVS issued it to us in August 2023 it had a Expiration Date on the box of Sept, 2023 just 4 weeks away?

Posted by NN2N1 2023-09-24 07:23||   2023-09-24 07:23|| Front Page Top

#3 "It’s because almost everyone (who isn’t blind, deaf or really dumb) knows someone who got the Covid jab and died soon thereafter."

That's a nonsense argument (at least in this gemeral form). If 70% of people are vaccinated, you're bound to know someone who died (for what reason ever) "soon" after (define "soon").

Posted by European Conservative 2023-09-24 08:33||   2023-09-24 08:33|| Front Page Top

#4 Alot of young athletes all over the world have died since getting them.
Posted by Chris 2023-09-24 08:38||   2023-09-24 08:38|| Front Page Top

#5 ^Hi EC. :-)
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-24 08:38||   2023-09-24 08:38|| Front Page Top

#6 Ref #3: Please note the graphic.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-09-24 08:53||   2023-09-24 08:53|| Front Page Top

#7 I think it is also the knowledge of people who got no vaccines (we all know people who did not comply). And they never got COVID and if they did it was just a cold.

Personally I received the vaccine and a booster and immediately after I felt terrible for several days. In fact in the last 3 years the worst I felt was immediately after getting the vaccine shot. So I will be skipping the next booster unless I am again required to get the shot for maintaining my employment.
Posted by Airandee 2023-09-24 09:11||   2023-09-24 09:11|| Front Page Top

#8 No sense arguing with COVID religionists.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-09-24 09:18||   2023-09-24 09:18|| Front Page Top

#9 per the vaccine adverse effect reporting system, about 1000 USA citizens died soon after getting the vaccine

however, you have to balance this against the number of vaccinated people who did not die from Covid - that number is not directly observable but it is likely in the hundreds of thousands for the early period of the infection (before the Omicron variant); after this the efficacy of the vaccine decreased partly because the new variants were less lethal
Posted by lord garth  2023-09-24 10:07||   2023-09-24 10:07|| Front Page Top

#10 RE#7 I believe I would get another job.
Posted by Chris 2023-09-24 11:51||   2023-09-24 11:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Because when Pushers are wrong for three years straight it isn't by accident?

Looking like Ahsoka Fans.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-09-24 11:52||   2023-09-24 11:52|| Front Page Top

#12 So why don't we see people harmed by the shot suing Pfizer?

As I recall, Grom, the original contracts President Trump signed with those companies working on Covid vaccines specifically exempted them from liability for harms resulting from rushing to market.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-09-24 11:59||   2023-09-24 11:59|| Front Page Top

#13 ^ He knows that
Posted by Frank G 2023-09-24 12:00||   2023-09-24 12:00|| Front Page Top

#14 As I recall, Grom, the original contracts President Trump signed with those companies working on Covid vaccines specifically exempted them from liability for harms resulting from rushing to market.

And that would stop American courts?
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-24 12:01||   2023-09-24 12:01|| Front Page Top

#15 Take the shot, its your choice. I only ask that you read the listed side effects that the drug companies attach to the vial. Then read the law making it impossible to sue the drug companies for damages. Then if you still think its worth it, go ahead...
Posted by 49 Pan 2023-09-24 12:12||   2023-09-24 12:12|| Front Page Top

#16 /\ Point well made Pan.
Posted by Besoeker 2023-09-24 12:15||   2023-09-24 12:15|| Front Page Top

#17 Hi Grom :-)
Posted by European Conservative 2023-09-24 12:27||   2023-09-24 12:27|| Front Page Top

#18 "the original contracts President Trump signed with those companies working on Covid vaccines specifically exempted them from liability for harms resulting from rushing to market."

He did, and so did all European governments. They had to, because everyone WANTED those companies to hurry up.

There was no point in getting those vaccines in ten years, with all the thorough testing getting done.

So yes, some risks had to be taken, and the companies weren't going to take that uncalculable risk.
Posted by European Conservative 2023-09-24 12:42||   2023-09-24 12:42|| Front Page Top

#19 And no drug company exec nor politician has lost any sleep over it. Or lost any money either.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-09-24 12:45||   2023-09-24 12:45|| Front Page Top

#20 And nobody was forced to take the vaccine.
Posted by European Conservative 2023-09-24 12:48||   2023-09-24 12:48|| Front Page Top

#21 ^ That's not true. People were fired for not taking it. Some children were given the vaccine in a clandestine manner at by school nurses.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-09-24 12:54||   2023-09-24 12:54|| Front Page Top

#22 "Some children were given the vaccine in a clandestine manner at by school nurses."

I don't know about the U.S. but in Germany this would be illegal.
Posted by European Conservative 2023-09-24 12:59||   2023-09-24 12:59|| Front Page Top

#23 Certainly illegal here, but school districts get pretty much unlimited latitude from the "legal authorities" in this country.

See: Loudon County, VA
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-09-24 13:02||   2023-09-24 13:02|| Front Page Top

#24 Just remember, by the fourth death peak in January, 2022 the death rate was 0.37% -about the same as the flu. Two months later, pneumonia surpassed COVID as a CDC-reported cause of death, and remains in the lead.

You knew all that, right? From the news? Or the Moderna ads, pushing the vax to prevent 'one of the top five causes of death'? Which, by the way, does not show pneumonia as one of the top causes of death...
Posted by Bobby 2023-09-24 13:10||   2023-09-24 13:10|| Front Page Top

#25 My son a Fireman in the Metro-Atlanta area.
Ran several calls a shift to the Covid-19 vaccination sites in his coverage area. Where person(s) had serious adverse reaction problems during the customary post shot observation safety check period, after taking the C-19 Shot.

I even mentioned this issue well over a year ago here on Rantburg.

Posted by NN2N1 2023-09-24 16:23||   2023-09-24 16:23|| Front Page Top

#26 #24My 1st bout with C-19-Omini started at least 8 days prior being hauled by Ambo. I spent days in ICU and a total of 2 weeks hospitalization with C19-omini and double pneumonia, then another 2 weeks of home on O2..

All of which were due to Covid-19-Omini.

How do you think the data would read, if I died?
Posted by NN2N1 2023-09-24 17:48||   2023-09-24 17:48|| Front Page Top

#27 Cold day in Hell before i take another mRNA jab.
Just look at the deaths above the 5 year average after the jabs started.
Posted by Squinty Hatfield8204 2023-09-24 18:35||   2023-09-24 18:35|| Front Page Top

#28  My son a Fireman in the Metro-Atlanta area.

Thank him for me, the one’s here in Brookhaven are incredible. My brother in law died here of a glioblastoma a year ago, we had to call them for so many lift/assists about now….

Wonderful people
Posted by Beavis 2023-09-24 20:21||   2023-09-24 20:21|| Front Page Top

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