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2006-09-12 Terror Networks

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-09-12 01:52|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Saddam + Radical islam + Iran + .... > is no threat, which is why of course Zawahiri's and Abu's warnings, rants and threats today. * The symbolism of COLUMBIA is that America may win the battles but still at the end lose the war; whilst WTC Twin Towers on 9-11 > DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER FROM THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT, DEM OR GOP, AMERICA + EVERYTHING AMERICAN IS GOING DOWN, VOLUNTARILY = FORCIBLY. EXTERNALLY BY CALCULATING FOREIGN HAND(S), INTERNALLY BY DYNAMIC, FIRED-UP CHAOS AND STRESSES BREAKING THE IRON BEAMS OF STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-09-12 03:20|| 2006-09-12 03:20|| Front Page Top

#2 This is a SUPERB summation. If only the West would wake up to the inevitable - and shape the coming war to be fought on OUR terms - instead of ceding that initiative to the dark forces of Islam.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2006-09-12 04:31|| 2006-09-12 04:31|| Front Page Top

#3 "I personally believe that we're very likely to see at least 10 million dead in the Middle East within the next two decades, with an upper limit near 100 million."

I think he's being rather optimistic. My best guess, the way the Islamic world is headed: six hundred million dead by 2020.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-09-12 07:01|| 2006-09-12 07:01|| Front Page Top

#4 "My best guess, the way the Islamic world is headed: six hundred million dead by 2020."

And it would still be about 900 odd million short of what's needed to finish the lot.

Posted by Texas Redneck 2006-09-12 07:45|| 2006-09-12 07:45|| Front Page Top

#5 The truly sad part is that the only alternative is collective suicide.

Posted by DanNY 2006-09-12 08:09|| 2006-09-12 08:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I personally believe that we're very likely to see at least 10 million dead in the Middle East within the next two decades, with an upper limit near 100 million. I do not believe pre-emptive action will be taken against Iran. I do, however, believe the extremist mullahs in Iran mean exactly what they say. They are steeped in an ideology that believes suicide/murder to be the holiest and most moral act possible. They have been diligent in laying strategic plans for an offensive Islamic War against Israel, America and the West.

Here is a likely scenario:

Nine lives expended, Musharraf gets whacked (and I doubt it won't take "two decades)." Rabid, seething Mullahs take over Pakland. Pakland nuclear weapons are placed in the hands of the evil doers. Someone lights the fuze....all hell breaks lose.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-12 10:05|| 2006-09-12 10:05|| Front Page Top

#7 I believe that the first nuke let off in the Islamic world will be by Islamists against other muslims.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-09-12 11:55|| 2006-09-12 11:55|| Front Page Top

#8 So the race is on B? On the right is PAKYLAND with their nuke and moderate leader and on the left is Iran developing the bomb and their wacked out Mulla's. Who will make the needed change first, Mullas take over Pak or Iran getting the bomb. My money is that Israel will see the effects of who gets there first.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-09-12 12:03|| 2006-09-12 12:03|| Front Page Top

#9 If the Paks win the race, they will attack India, and India will make black glass out of 'em.
My biggest fear is that Iran nukes itself and creates a massive radioactive cloud which covers the world. The 'On The Beach' scenario.

Posted by wxjames 2006-09-12 12:54|| 2006-09-12 12:54|| Front Page Top

#10 An entire generation will soon have past, of those who were alive and remember the horrors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Most unfortunately, old lessons will have to be learned once again. I hope we survive the learning.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-12 13:06|| 2006-09-12 13:06|| Front Page Top

#11 I once hoped we could end this before my sons would have to fight in it. I, like you, am facing the reality that the lessons of our fathers will be relearned by our sons.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-09-12 15:00|| 2006-09-12 15:00|| Front Page Top

#12 "I believe that the first nuke let off in the Islamic world will be by Islamists against other muslims."

I've always believed that Darth. Their penchant for destroying the 'infidel' is only surpassed by their penchant for destroying each other. Either Sunni will bomb Shiite or Shiite will bomb Sunni. Probably the latter. Why? Allan wills it.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-12 15:13|| 2006-09-12 15:13|| Front Page Top

#13 If we use the German experience in WWII as a guide, they needed to lose 10% of their population to conclude that dying for the Reich was a bad idea.

The Japanese needed to lose 6 - 7% of their population to decide that peaceful co-existance was a good idea.

Applying these percentages to the muslim world you come up with 100 - 150 million folks.

Al

Posted by frozen al">frozen al 2006-09-12 17:04|| 2006-09-12 17:04|| Front Page Top

#14 That's assuming these people learn as quickly as the Germans or Japanese...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-09-12 19:43|| 2006-09-12 19:43|| Front Page Top

#15 By the end of the century, Islam will be history. However, how many of us are going to die before it happens?

Posted by gromgoru 2006-09-12 20:04|| 2006-09-12 20:04|| Front Page Top

#16 #15: "By the end of the century, Islam will be history. However, how many of us are going to die before it happens?"

By the end of the century, pretty much all of us, grom.

/pedant

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-12 20:07|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-12 20:07|| Front Page Top

#17 #16 Meeny.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-09-12 20:15|| 2006-09-12 20:15|| Front Page Top

#18 ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-12 20:24|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-12 20:24|| Front Page Top

#19 #17 "#16 Meeny."

insufferable pedant on

Actually, that's "Meany."

/off insufferable pedant

Sorry 'bout that - I've been cite-checking/proofreading all day and haven't come back down to earth yet. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-12 20:30|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-12 20:30|| Front Page Top

#20 Opening money quote from the linked article:

I personally believe that we're very likely to see at least 10 million dead in the Middle East within the next two decades, with an upper limit near 100 million. I do not believe pre-emptive action will be taken against Iran. I do, however, believe the extremist mullahs in Iran mean exactly what they say. They are steeped in an ideology that believes suicide/murder to be the holiest and most moral act possible. They have been diligent in laying strategic plans for an offensive Islamic War against Israel, America and the West. Plans backed by 25 years of action, and stated no less clearly than Mein Kampf. I believe that Ahmedinajad's talk of 12th Imam end-times and halos around his head at the UN aren't the ravings of an isolated nut, simply an unusually public (and unusually noticed) expression of beliefs that are close to mainstream within their ruling class. That class of "true believer" imams and revolutionary guard types have been quietly consolidating their control over all sectors of Iranian society over the last few months, and I do not believe anyone in the world today has both the will and the capability to stop them. A key pillar of The Bush Doctrine is about to fail.

The will to stop these end-times bastards is what this is all about. Such apocalyptic thinking and fixation upon eschatology voids any conventional notions about impressing upon Iran the potential for loss-of-life or even its wholesale destruction.

Iran, with its minority Shiia population, is a Petri dish model of what we face on a larger scale throughout the Arab Middle East. Theocratic dictatorship, entrenched with violent religious doctrine, fueled by massive oil wealth and desensitized by a complete and total disregard for the value of human life.

Confronted with such an enemy, there is no applicable conventional war doctrine which will deliver total victory. Unconventional or nuclear war is not an intelligent option. In order to defuse Iran's immediate threat we need to cripple their nuclear arms program and decapitate their leadership. This is the very most we can hope for within the next year.

Given all of this. It is best that we act sooner than later. I can only hope that Bush has sufficient personal resolve to take on this onerous task once the mid-term elections are over.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-12 21:31|| 2006-09-12 21:31|| Front Page Top

#21 Zenster, that is an unusually precise and incisive exposition of the problem. I fear that George Bush is the only person on the planet with the will and the means to stop these bastards. That is why there are so many people in this country deperately trying to stop him and why it is so important that they fail.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-12 22:12|| 2006-09-12 22:12|| Front Page Top

#22 Thank you very much, RWV. I fear that I may be coming across like a broken record of late. I do my best to encapsulate and synopsize the points I see as being critical within the given articles or overall schemes presented. It's nice to know that these efforts are appreciated.

It is tragic that so many solutions to these pressing crises have come to rest upon Bush's shoulders. It is not that he is unworthy of whatever power needed to solve them, it is merely that no one single leader can possibly be expected to unilaterally act upon such a multitude of vital issues. This is less an indictment of Bush's skills than it is a condemnation of how cowardly much of this world's leadership continues to be.

I would not relish being in Bush's place right now. One can only hope that he will act in time against Iran. This is the one single outstanding confrontation that his administration can actively address in its sunset phase that will leave a lasting legacy of having acted upon the most pressing issues. Inaction upon his part with respect to Iran will cement a reputation for having done the right thing at the wrong time, or not having done it at all.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-12 22:44|| 2006-09-12 22:44|| Front Page Top

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