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2006-09-07 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by anonymous5089 2006-09-07 03:32|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Time for Israel to capitalize on Nasrallah's previous mistakes.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-07 03:36|| 2006-09-07 03:36|| Front Page Top

#2 "We learned from Hezbollah's victory

UUUmmmmm, no you didn't.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-09-07 06:25|| 2006-09-07 06:25|| Front Page Top

#3 "We learned from Hezbollah's victory"

Learned up how to die is graded on the pass fail curve thingy.

Posted by RD 2006-09-07 06:45|| 2006-09-07 06:45|| Front Page Top

#4 time to quit calling ahead before killing the bastards

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-09-07 08:23|| 2006-09-07 08:23|| Front Page Top

#5 'Gaza preparing for war'

'Sun Rising in East'

'Water Wet'

'Ice is Cold'

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-09-07 09:00|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-09-07 09:00|| Front Page Top

#6 If ever an item called out for the "Bomb Us Next" graphic!

Posted by SteveS 2006-09-07 09:10|| 2006-09-07 09:10|| Front Page Top

#7 This goes to show that the land for peace initiative is total crap. The loss of control of the Philadelphi border has led to massive smuggling, Hezbollah infiltration and a potential 2 - front war for Israel. Iran has effectively boxed in Israel by using Syria as a proxy army, Lebanon and Hezbollah in the North and Gaza in the West. If Israel gets any more bright ideas about conceding parts of the West Bank they will be effectively surrounded as the Negev is not a conducive area for retreat. With all of this deterrent strength and US political impotency Iran is securing a major victory here. A massive PR campaign needs to be launched as well as preparations to counter all of these threats. Similar to Binny's hit on Masood, Syria is going to have to be hit very soon. Issue is Israel will need a causi belli.

Posted by Rightwing 2006-09-07 09:34|| 2006-09-07 09:34|| Front Page Top

#8 Once again, the only solution to the problem is to end the status quo. Make it abundantly clear to the Gazans that for each and every attack they commit *or allow to be committed* against Israel, a small part of Gaza land adjacent to Israel will be confiscated (and paid to its owner for by eminent domain if necessary to soothe the "fairness" crowd.)

That land shall forever cease being part of Gaza. It will have an additional section of wall built around it, and it will be "no-man's land", used solely by the Israeli army as "military training area". It will be bulldozed flat, without buildings, crops, trees or any people permitted on it.

And under NO circumstances will it EVER be returned. Unauthorized entry into the area will be treated like unauthorized crossing of the existing wall.

Each land confiscation will be a legal act, based on evidence of a given attack from all of Gaza, NOT just the land confiscated. And the Israeli government will clearly state to the Gazans, with EACH AND EVERY confiscation, EXACTLY WHY that land in particular was confiscated.

It will take HUNDREDS of future attacks for the Gazans to start suffering any major consequences from such confiscations. Before they would have to adjust for a significant decrease in living space.

But, if LAND is all they care about, then Israel must fight back by taking their LAND. Other methods, all the way up to ethnic cleansing, will not work.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-09-07 10:38|| 2006-09-07 10:38|| Front Page Top

#9 We learned from Hezbollah's victory

Nothing sadder then a lesson learned wrong

Posted by tu3031 2006-09-07 10:42|| 2006-09-07 10:42|| Front Page Top

#10 Nothing sadder then a lesson learned wrong

Unless it applies to these idiots dying in record numbers. Then it is kinda funny.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-09-07 10:46|| 2006-09-07 10:46|| Front Page Top

#11 "We learned from Hezbollah's victory that Israel can be defeated if we know how to hit them and if we are well prepared," said Abu Ahmed, northern Gaza leader of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group. "We are importing rockets and the knowledge to launch them and we are also making many plans for battle."

They apparently didn't catch the part about having someplace to run. Nasrallah had a hole in Syria and his "army" could flee acroos the Litani and beg the UN to intervene. The IDF (which hopefully will have learned from the Lebanese conflict) will clean out a Hamas trapped in Gaza.

Posted by DoDo 2006-09-07 11:42|| 2006-09-07 11:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Moose, good plan. I would like to see the US take Gaza as a test grounds. However, we must give free hand to disciplining the Gazans without regard for human rights. When we find a terrorist, we torture the shit outta him and bury him with pig poop. Eventually, we would kill all of the men, free the women, and save the children. We could also get those farms up and running so the Gazans would earn a living and learn a trade. When Israel had control of it, they did not force change, but allowed the PLA to handle the day to day government. Big mistake. If Iraq has taught us anything, it's that muzzies are incapable of choosing progress over regress. The ONLY solution is to eliminate Islam.

Posted by wxjames 2006-09-07 11:47|| 2006-09-07 11:47|| Front Page Top

#13 If Hamas, Hezbollah, et. al. start firing bigger rockets from Gaza, the Israelis should notify the Egyptians that one gate will be opened to evacuate all women and children and then the Israeli Defense Force will start at one end of Gaza and roll through to the other crushing all resistance (killing anyone who even looks like he might have evil thought). The Strip will be thoroughly inspected, all weapons destroyed, and anything related to the Lions of Islam confiscated. The rubble will be disinfected and the women and children allowed back in.

Posted by RWV 2006-09-07 11:50|| 2006-09-07 11:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Have they never been at war? Not in my recollection. What's new?

Posted by JohnQC 2006-09-07 12:21|| 2006-09-07 12:21|| Front Page Top

#15 Those ding-bat's deserve an embarrasing death.

Posted by Jesing Ebbease3087 2006-09-07 12:48|| 2006-09-07 12:48|| Front Page Top

#16 'Gaza preparing for war'

As opposed to what they've been doing for years?

"We're preparing for war! Now with 50% more seething!"

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-07 19:49|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-07 19:49|| Front Page Top

#17 #7: "This goes to show that the land for peace initiative is total crap."

It was only land for peace to the Israelis, RightWing. To the Arabs, it was land for promises. And they lied.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-07 19:52|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-07 19:52|| Front Page Top

#18 teh Paleos should declare war and suffer the immediate consequences. Let's get this shit over, and get on with burying the dead

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-09-07 19:56|| 2006-09-07 19:56|| Front Page Top

#19 That land shall forever cease being part of Gaza. It will have an additional section of wall built around it, and it will be "no-man's land", used solely by the Israeli army as "military training area". It will be bulldozed flat, without buildings, crops, trees or any people permitted on it.

And under NO circumstances will it EVER be returned.

I've backed this idea from the instant I ever saw it. This represents the only non-violent solution with a glimmer of hope to succeed. Once the Palestinians find themselves crowded onto a postage stamp, they'll be a lot ~~easier to take out with one bomb~~ more tractable regarding some sort of peace settlement. No land given back, just a nice little peaceful parcel the size of a postage stamp.

These psychotic goons deserve a glaring reminder of the endless opportunities they've thrown away. Every time they look at a map of the fence and see it crenellated like a Medieval castle wall-top, they can ponder the wisdom of their intransigent hatred of Israel.

"We're preparing for war! Now with 50% more seething!"

Definite contender for a "Snark of the Day Award".

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-07 20:35|| 2006-09-07 20:35|| Front Page Top

#20 Hamass learned nothing. The Hezbollocks had land to retreat to, and hilly, difficult-to-negotiate terrain that wasn't exactly ideal for the use of artillery. Gaza is as flat as a pancake, loong and narrow, and perfect tank and artillery terrain. All Israel has to do is pull up several thousand artillery pieces (I hope the US supplies MLRS to Israel, with lots of reloads), and start smashing. Israel could destroy everything over six inches high, and bounce the rubble. To "clear" those bunkers, just spray an area with gasoline, let it seep into all the niches and crevices. then ignite it with willie pete. Won't have to worry about "rescuing" the paleostains - there won't be any left. If Israel finds Hezbollocks training sites in the Sinai, nuke 'em, and threaten Cairo or Aswan if there's a repeat.

"Lessons learned" my a$$.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-09-07 21:23|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-09-07 21:23|| Front Page Top

#21 #19 Zen - Thanks! :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-07 22:12|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-07 22:12|| Front Page Top

#22 Always a pleasure, Barbara. You have one of the highest SRFs (Snark Reliability Factor), at this entire board.

Posted by Zenster 2006-09-07 23:56|| 2006-09-07 23:56|| Front Page Top

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