Archived material Access restricted Article
Rantburg

Today's Front Page   View All of Fri 09/03/2004 View Thu 09/02/2004 View Wed 09/01/2004 View Tue 08/31/2004 View Mon 08/30/2004 View Sun 08/29/2004 View Sat 08/28/2004
1
2004-09-03 Russia
Muslims are 15% of Russia's population
Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-09-03 12:13:26 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Here's a question, Rantburgers: Is it better to be a Muslim or a Communist?

I vote Muslim.
Posted by Chris W.  2004-09-03 12:30:56 AM||   2004-09-03 12:30:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 
Is it better to be a Muslim or a Communist? I vote Muslim.
Is it better to be a fecal peanut or fecal corn? You decide. I vote for flushing them both.
Posted by Victory Now Please 2004-09-03 12:35:04 AM||   2004-09-03 12:35:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 That's a trick question, Chris. Sorta like asking would you rather have pancreatic cancer or liver cancer.
Posted by PBMcL 2004-09-03 12:36:41 AM||   2004-09-03 12:36:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 gonnorhea or aids?
I vote for the clap, er, communists.
That disease ran its course in less than 150 years and is known to be curable, while Islam has plagued the civilized world for 10 times as long.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-09-03 12:39:22 AM||   2004-09-03 12:39:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Assuming the only other choice is death of course. I think it could make for interesting debate.
Posted by Chris W.  2004-09-03 12:43:07 AM||   2004-09-03 12:43:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Ummm - The turbinites better pull back. You think the weenie roast in Khatmandu, Nepal was bad?

Can you see that times 1000?

Those bastards better back off those 200 kids
they are holding hostage.

Then the "percentage" of Muslims in Russia will suddenly drop. . .
Posted by BigEd 2004-09-03 12:43:08 AM||   2004-09-03 12:43:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 al-Beeb's figures (probably twice the actual figure) will need significant revision if the Mohammedan devils kill those kids in Ossetia.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-09-03 12:49:03 AM||   2004-09-03 12:49:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Send the Mormon missionaries to Russia and convert the mulsims. No more bombs and schoolyard hostages, but lots of LDS literature left on the front door.

On a more serious note, the muslims of the FSU are probably ripe for conversion since both communism and islam have failed to improve their lives.
Posted by ed 2004-09-03 12:55:59 AM||   2004-09-03 12:55:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Muslims are 15% of Russia’s population

Considering how Russia's boundaries cross some 11 time zones, the 15% figure is not at all surprising. However, there may be some surprises in store for that 15%, depending on the hostage situation's outcome. Current analysis predicts that Putin's standing will not be harmed drastically by any catastrophic results from the school hostage crisis.

For once, the spotlight's glare is fixed rather firmly on Muslim involvement with this atrocity-in-the-making. While Americans do indeed love their children, you need to factor it by a couple of times to approach Eastern European familial ties. The terrorists have a golden opportunity to forever brand themselves as heartless demons should they permit these children to be harmed.

In some ways, were it not for the incredibly senseless violence that awaits, this is one of the best possible scenarios. The world will get a profound and lasting demonstration of terrorism's limitless capacity for cruel and mindless slaughter. Unlike the Palestinian-Israeli strife, the vast majority of these hostages cannot possibly be construed as active combatants of any sort.

Should harm befall these innocents, radical Islam will inflict upon itself untold damage and disgrace, such as it roundly deserves. There will little or no way to spin this into any sort of shining victory. Self-immolation, more like.
Posted by Anonymous6166 2004-09-03 1:07:35 AM||   2004-09-03 1:07:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 A6166, how about this spin.

I had a DRs appointment.

A bunch of ol' drinking buddies showed up late.

My sisters best friend came over.

There are noises I hear after dark.

People say things, way to fast!

Dogs bark and after awhile they quit making sense!
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-03 1:20:30 AM||   2004-09-03 1:20:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 As always: Anonymous6166 = Zenster

Lucky, that sounds like more than just the spins. It could even be case of the dreaded purple whirlies!
Posted by Zenster 2004-09-03 1:38:02 AM||   2004-09-03 1:38:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Is it better to be a Muslim or a Communist?

As far as I'm concerned, they're both about the same.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-09-03 1:41:44 AM||   2004-09-03 1:41:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 The one minor difference is the Communists remembered WWII. They knew that if they attacked the West with force and failed, they were toast. The Muslims haven't experienced it yet.
Posted by Pappy 2004-09-03 2:40:26 AM||   2004-09-03 2:40:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Maybe, they need to bring back Stalin. He didn't put up with any nonsense from them.
"The single worst Link: episode in Chechen history occurred in 1942/1943 when Stalin accused the Chechens of collaborating with the Nazis and ordered the deportation of the entire nation to Kazakhstan.

More than a quarter of the population died and it wasn't until 1957 that the survivors were allowed to return."
Posted by tipper 2004-09-03 2:40:35 AM||   2004-09-03 2:40:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Way better to be a Communist. You have the possibility to grow up, see the light, renounce your Marxist ways and become a libertarian. As a Muslim, the only upgrade path is to become an apostate marked for death.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-09-03 2:41:18 AM||   2004-09-03 2:41:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Why doesn't Russia spin some of the areas off? I can't imagine that the Moslems areas adding that much to the Russian economy. If they still plan to keep Chechnya, they can more effectively canton the islamo-kooks, if they pull the ethnic Russians out of some of the hinterlands and declare the Moslem population forever free. Kind of a reverse ethnic cleansing.
Posted by Super Hose 2004-09-03 2:46:34 AM||   2004-09-03 2:46:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Why doesn't Russia spin some of the areas off?

Most of the Muslim areas are located around the Caspian Sea, home to vast supplies of (you guessed it) Oil. Any independent states would claim their share of the oil wealth.

Stalins deportations
There is very little proof of any Nazi collaboration by the Chechens, and certainly nothing compared to the millions of Ukranians, Belorussians, Cossacks and Balts who fought alongside the Axis armies against the Soviets. The deportations are one of the main region Russia has such difficulties in Chechnya to begin with.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-09-03 4:53:29 AM||   2004-09-03 4:53:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 Less than two million American Muslims.
Posted by someone 2004-09-03 10:44:58 AM||   2004-09-03 10:44:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Less than two million American Muslims.

And if Islamists try to take a school full of children hostage here in America, that number just might drop significantly overnight.

One more f%&king time.

WHERE'S THE MODERATE MUSLIM OUTCRY OVER THIS LATEST ATROCITY?

Time is running out for any demonstrations of sincere revulsion over terrorism.

SILENCE IS CONSENT!
Posted by Zenster 2004-09-03 11:47:02 AM||   2004-09-03 11:47:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 This is perhaps why Chechens have little problem getting logistical support throughout Russia. If IIUC the Dagestanis, at least dislike the Chechens and Islamism in general, and most of the Volga Tatars are moderate. I think most of the suppor within Russia the Chechens get is from other Chechens (some of whom live in Moscow) rather than from non-Chechen muslims. (Of course the Chechen Islamists DO get support from OUTSIDE russia, notably from Arabs)
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-09-03 11:50:11 AM||   2004-09-03 11:50:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 15% Today
14% Tomorrow
13% Next Week
10% Next Month
5% Next Year
0% In Two Years Problem Solved
Posted by Pro Liebertate 2004-09-03 12:15:27 PM||   2004-09-03 12:15:27 PM|| Front Page Top

19:36 UFO
19:36 UFO
13:26 Slomorong Choque7331
10:25 RJSchwarz
08:53 Shipman
08:52 Shipman
01:33 lex
01:17 GreatestJeneration
01:13 Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo)
01:10 Phil Fraering
01:06 GreatestJeneration
00:29 Barbara Skolaut
00:28 tu3031
00:28 tu3031
00:23 UFO
00:19 Aris Katsaris
00:13 lex
00:12 Zarathustra
00:06 lex
00:03 lex
23:57 cingold
23:55 SCpatriot
23:52 Phil Fraering
23:52 trailing wife
Merry-Go-Blog










Paypal:
Google
Search WWW Search rantburg.com