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Sarah Palin: she came from nowhere
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Posted by tipper 2008-09-02 09:52|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views ]  Top

#1 I'm late to the festivities. I only wrote about Sarah Palin on June 4. Others had been advocating for her since the beginning of the year. Out of nowhere to the media, perhaps. Clueless media.
Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins  2008-09-02 10:33|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org]  2008-09-02 10:33|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm looking forward to a P² ticket - Palin and Petraeus 2012.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-02 10:50||   2008-09-02 10:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Besoeker, or a P&J ticket - Palin & Jindal.
Posted by AlanC 2008-09-02 11:47||   2008-09-02 11:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Petraeus for SecDef, I say.
Posted by Grunter 2008-09-02 12:34||   2008-09-02 12:34|| Front Page Top

#5 a P&J ticket - Palin & Jindal

PB&J ticket: Palin & Bobby Jindal.
Posted by Mike 2008-09-02 12:50||   2008-09-02 12:50|| Front Page Top

#6 What about Michael Steele? Watching the Democrats and the legacy media during the 2012 Republican primary race is going to be highly amusing.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-09-02 13:56||   2008-09-02 13:56|| Front Page Top

#7 Leave Robert Gates as SecDef if we can.


Let's win 2008 first before we speculate on 2012. History isn't kind to VP nominees on a losing ticket.
Posted by Steve White  2008-09-02 14:42||   2008-09-02 14:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Palin, Jindal, Crist, Pawlenty, Steele... These are some of the Republican party up and comers. Talk about a fresh, sharp, diverse, scrupulous and reform-minded bunch. I don't think the Democrats have much of an answer for this core group of individuals.

Obama is their flash-in-the-pan hope right now and if he doesn't "pan" out, it's back to Hillary Clinton & Co. Talk about uninspiring.


Posted by eltoroverde 2008-09-02 15:01||   2008-09-02 15:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't forget Pence, Fleck and all the other good guys in the House who conducted the candlelight sessions in the House to demand drilling. The should run for some governorships.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-02 15:13||   2008-09-02 15:13|| Front Page Top

#10 #8 nah, if obama loses, we got Mark Warner, Ed Rendell, Evan Bayh, Ted Strickland, and a bunch more. And Im deliberately avoiding the lefties. Our bench is deep. We're better off as a party losing than winning and having a disastrous presidency.
Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 15:17||   2008-09-02 15:17|| Front Page Top

#11 I'll grant you Warner out of that list.  The others? nah.
Posted by lotp 2008-09-02 15:19||   2008-09-02 15:19|| Front Page Top

#12 Warner, Rendell, Bayh, Strickland... they're all just a bunch of white guys. As a Christmas card, that's not a very flattering picture for the self-proclaimed "party of diversity."
Posted by eltoroverde 2008-09-02 15:45||   2008-09-02 15:45|| Front Page Top

#13 We're better off as a party losing than winning and having a disastrous presidency.

Indeed. If perhaps the Democratic Party could return to their pragmatic, Scoop Jackson roots, that would be a wonderful thing for the country.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-09-02 15:46||   2008-09-02 15:46|| Front Page Top

#14 Notice something?

When BOTH parties finally dump off the last of the "1968 Boomer" jerks (those at or above 18 in 1968), BOTH parties get a ton better.

The GOP will have the first "GenX" ticket of Palin/Jindal, and it is a damned good one. And the Dems with Warner with a blue dog might work too.

Certainly better than what we have endured from the boomers.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-02 15:50||   2008-09-02 15:50|| Front Page Top

#15 Warner is a boomer (b. 1954). Whether a '68'er or not I can't say. That his is the first name of Gen X donks says a lot about their bench strength. They may have some, but it's still being drowned out by the class of '74 and its alums in which I would include Hillary and Barrack.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-02 15:58||   2008-09-02 15:58|| Front Page Top

#16 Oh, and had the media paid attention, FreedHeads were touting Palin as a VP last fall. Mainly because we had to do soemthing to balance Fred's basset-hound energy levels.

I was a FredHead because he is so right and well spoken on the vital issues, but even I admit there was a lack of energy. It was said Fred woudl never run for president, but he might SIT for it. ;-)

With Gov Palin, though, she'll put her boots on, grab a rifle, go hunt the election animal down, and end up with its head mounted over the mantle in her office.

I'm hoping she is as tough as what we saw when we checked out her fight against the GOP old-boys club and corruption in Alaska.

Don't mistake her being pretty and her being well mannered for her being a pushover. There's steel beneath the surface backed by a very sharp intellect from what I can tell of her background.

I'm thinking she's Ginger Rodgers - she can do anything Fred (Thompson) did, except she can do it while going backwars and in heels, and look damn good doing it.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-02 16:03||   2008-09-02 16:03|| Front Page Top

#17  Warner, Rendell, Bayh, Strickland... they're all just a bunch of white guys. As a Christmas card, that's not a very flattering picture for the self-proclaimed "party of diversity."

well unfortunately Granholm is Canadian born and inelegible - y'alls inelegible is the Gov of Calif, who is also a white guy. I dont know much about Sibelius. Given that the Dems just nominated the first Black nominee for Prez by a major party, its a little odd for you to tout the Steele as showing GOP is more racially diverse - Im not even going to bother looking through lists for black up and comers.

Thats assumign you believe in this diversity as quotas thingie. Ive got my issues with it. I want to the Dems to advance the needs of the diverse people in our society - not establish a quota by race and gender for up and comers.

On that note, its also interesting Rendell doesnt count toward diversity, but is just another white guy. Also Im waiting for the GOP to actually nominate a Roman Catholic for either Pres or VP. we take that advance so much for granted, we forget how few RCs have been nominated for national office, and so far all Dems.
Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 16:08||   2008-09-02 16:08|| Front Page Top

#18 I argue with the boomer designation extending all the way to 1964. Or even 1960. I say it ends with the class of 1973, the last to face a draft. Say 1955-57.

Its not a nice multiple of 5 or 10, but culturally its a hell of a lot mroe accurate. for anyone graduating after that, Vietnam was done long befiore they had to be concerned with it, watergate was something that interrupted Star Trek reruns in the afternoon, and the first real president they can recall any actions of is Gerald Ford.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-02 16:09||   2008-09-02 16:09|| Front Page Top

#19 15 = well ya know, Warner actually had a career as an entrepreneur and THEN served a full term as gov of Virginia, and is only NOW running for Senate, which would give him even more experience before 2012. I know what with Obama and Palin its not fashionable to expect experience for national office, but given a requirement for experience you tend to bias away from the very young.
Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 16:10||   2008-09-02 16:10|| Front Page Top

#20 definition of boomer

Boomer was a demographic phenom , you know, something abotu lots of babies, before it was a culture war meme. The largest birth cohorts were actually '59 and '60, and '61 was still pretty big, so I think that any def that excludes those years is problematic.
Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 16:12||   2008-09-02 16:12|| Front Page Top

#21 #13 Note Im NOT saying Obama ISNT a pragramatist or an inner liberal hawk (other than on Iraq, which is largely over anyway, for all that the campaigns want to focus on it) Its just that I dont KNOW that troubles me (and I think on domestic issues hes quite as much of a pragmatist as Scoop, who was actually a solid labor liberal on economic policy - something much forgotten these days - again its the for policy where he is keeping the real Obama well hidden, and of course where his prior record leaves fewest hints)
Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 16:16||   2008-09-02 16:16|| Front Page Top

#22 A lot of demographers make a strong distinction, LH, between the early and late boomers. The concept of a demographic known as "tweener" (born roughly '59-'67) has gained a lot of traction in the field and they are ackowledged as being distinct both from the early or "true" boomers and gen-X.
Posted by no mo uro 2008-09-02 16:39||   2008-09-02 16:39|| Front Page Top

#23 I guess the MSM thinks Alaska is "nowhere." They only consider the Hollowood and the eastern liberal elites as being from somewhere.
Posted by JohnQC 2008-09-02 16:51||   2008-09-02 16:51|| Front Page Top

#24 even demographers can be silly.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-02 17:14||   2008-09-02 17:14|| Front Page Top

#25 I was born in 67 and would rather be included with Gen-X than tweeners which is sort of undefined as a group and somewhat responsible for the disco crisis.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-09-02 17:30||   2008-09-02 17:30|| Front Page Top

#26 'hawk, Strickland is as phony as a $3 bill with Milli Vanilli's portrait on it. The only reason he won is that Bob Taft so trashed the Republican brand name in Ohio that the Donks coulda run a duckbilled platypus and they'd still have won.

Strickland was running ads on the contemporary Christian radio stations touting his fidelity to Biblical principles -- then he gave an interview to the Cleveland Pain Dealer in which he said that Ohio had to get rid of "old-fashioned morality" because it hurt the economy! He's also the one who gave a speech in which hecalled for pulling out of Iraq and then said "don't resettle any Iraqi refugees here 'cause we don't want 'em."

In short, he's a phony, unprincipled son of a bitch.

You make him the face of the party, and you'll be pining away for the (relative) integrity of the Clinton administration.
Posted by Mike 2008-09-02 17:48||   2008-09-02 17:48|| Front Page Top

#27 Palin was a member of the Alaska Independent Party. Earlier this year, she made a video expressing good wishes for their annual convention. Palin is an American if necessary, but not necessarily American. I have worked in Alaska, and I know her play on the Pretty Princess tag, has grown tired. And the fact that her hubby has a DUI, doesn't play well either on those of us who drive on the state's little policed highways. Put someone else a heartbeat away.
Posted by Regional Peace 2008-09-02 18:26||   2008-09-02 18:26|| Front Page Top

#28 Thanks "Regionnal Peace." We'll gladly take your....damaged goods down here in the lower 56. No problems mate.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-02 18:33||   2008-09-02 18:33|| Front Page Top

#29 Well, if your spouse having a DUI at age 22 disqualifies you for holding public office, what's the penalties for Ted Kennedy then? We're talking DUI and murder.

"The car spins around around around around."
Posted by Silenbrick">Silenbrick  2008-09-02 18:44||   2008-09-02 18:44|| Front Page Top

#30 What's the statute of limitations on DUI? I would bet that it is a lot less than 20 years.
Besides, Todd Palin is not running for VP. Nor are their kids.
As for the Alaska Independence Party, there are no records proving she or Mr. Palin were members. The video made for their convention just wished them well, and said competition was good for the political system.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-09-02 18:56||   2008-09-02 18:56|| Front Page Top

#31 The problem is 59-60-61 were practically in diapers for JFK's assassination, playing in the sandbox when Booby Kennedy and King were killed, playing sandlot football (or cheerleading for it) during watergate on TV and the Vietnam war, were in Jr High when the war ended, were learning to drive when Nixon resigned, never had to register for a draft, came of drinking age and voting age when Carter was in office, and the first president they probably voted for was Reagan.

NOT culturally Boomers.

That's why I hate lumping them in there - Boomers are universally the "hippies" those events listed above were "key" events - of which the late 50's never really experienced.

Boomer cutoff somewhere around 57-58 is probably best culturally. The Lost Generation is a better term for the next 10 years than lumping them in with Boomers or Gen-X'ers. They tend to be much more individualist, supportive of the military (and were the backbone of Reagan's military buildup that won the cold war), and in general more libertarian-conservative than the far left liberals that preceeded them.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-02 19:01||   2008-09-02 19:01|| Front Page Top

#32 "Palin was a member of the Alaska Independent Party"

Wrong - thats a lie.

You need to go back to Kos and get the next, NEWEST smear/lie, the AIP one is already disproven.

The McCain campaign released voter registration documents Tuesday dating to 1990 in which Palin lists herself as a Republican. Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982, and has never been a member of the Alaskan Independence Party.

Palin addressed the Independence Party's state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks. She gave no indication of a current or past connection to the party.

"Your party plays an important role in our state's politics," she said in the video, which is posted on the party's Web site. "I've always said that competition is so good, and that applies to political parties as well."

Supporters of Barack Obama are engaged in an unfortunate and nasty smear campaign," said Rogers, the McCain spokesman.


So punky, go back to fellating Obama for the next smear.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-02 19:05||   2008-09-02 19:05|| Front Page Top

#33 
<i>Palin was a member of the Alaska Independent Party</i>


Nope.  Apparently Todd Palin was for a little while.  Sarah Palin has been a registered Republican for years.


LH, re: Warner as entrepreneur.  What he was was a Capitol Hill aide who pushed spectrum deregulation and had money lined up to purchase spectrum rights as soon as 'his' bill got passed.  To be sure he did a decent job exploiting those rights - but he got them the good old insider way.
Posted by lotp 2008-09-02 19:46||   2008-09-02 19:46|| Front Page Top

#34 gotta get a new sock puppet nym "regional peace". Your "I'm an Alaskan" and your ignorance of her party ID shows you're a lying sack of shit.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-09-02 20:10||   2008-09-02 20:10|| Front Page Top

#35 "Boomers are universally the "hippies" those events listed above were "key" events - of which the late 50's never really experienced."
OldSpook, I resent that remark. I was born in 1947, am definitely a boomer, and am NOT a hippie, and never have been. I wasn't crazy about the VietNam war, but would have fought if sent. I am retired from the Naval Reserve, and have always been a strong supporter of the military.
My point is, not ALL boomers were/are hippies.
I did go to the Woodstock music festival, though. When it was in Woodstock (1968).
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-09-02 20:19||   2008-09-02 20:19|| Front Page Top

#36 "The problem is 59-60-61 were...NOT culturally Boomers...That's why I hate lumping them in there"

Thanks, Oldspook, for getting having my back on this one. This is precisely what I was trying to get across. Not sure why exploring this notion is "silly", but no meaningful explanation for the term "silly" was given.

As far as disco goes, yours truly, who is in the tweener demographic, wore a "Death Before Disco" shirt back in the day. FYI, RJS.
Posted by no mo uro 2008-09-02 20:49||   2008-09-02 20:49|| Front Page Top

#37 Edit out "getting". PIMF
Posted by no mo uro 2008-09-02 20:50||   2008-09-02 20:50|| Front Page Top

#38 At the age of 10, Sarah Palin got her very own bunny rabbit. Which means to say that she crouched down in the grass outside her family home, aimed her shotgun and blew its furry little head off.

Posted by Skunky Glins 5***">Skunky Glins 5***  2008-09-02 21:29||   2008-09-02 21:29|| Front Page Top

#39 but at least she got a key chain?

/moonbat
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-09-02 21:41||   2008-09-02 21:41|| Front Page Top

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