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2007-08-28 Europe

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Posted by tipper 2007-08-28 11:40|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 So long Turkey, We hardly knew ye! Good luck with EU thing.

Posted by SCpatriot@work 2007-08-28 11:47|| 2007-08-28 11:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Hopefully there is a coup and the military puts a squash on this bullshit.

Otherwise, Turkey is now in our crosshairs.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-08-28 12:32|| 2007-08-28 12:32|| Front Page Top

#3 "The military will expect Gul to honor pledges made over the past two weeks to protect Turkey's secular ideology and remain above party politics."

A little taqiya here, a little hudna there, and investments now in scarf futures will hit it big.

Posted by Phinater Thraviger 2007-08-28 12:41|| 2007-08-28 12:41|| Front Page Top

#4 Who bets Saudi funded his election!!!!!

Posted by Paul 2007-08-28 12:47|| 2007-08-28 12:47|| Front Page Top

#5 So has Jimmy certified the election yet? You can't be a real 2 bit head-in-the-ass tyrant until Jimmy has come hugged you and said how great you are. Then when he announces how fair your elections were, you can be a real tyrant like Chavez or Jimmy's other terrorist friends.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2007-08-28 13:01|| 2007-08-28 13:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Why, the nerve of 'em! The unmitigated Gul!

Posted by Mike 2007-08-28 13:04|| 2007-08-28 13:04|| Front Page Top

#7 I smell "Northern Kurdistan"...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-08-28 15:48|| 2007-08-28 15:48|| Front Page Top

#8 lol Mike

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-08-28 16:01|| 2007-08-28 16:01|| Front Page Top

#9 I made this comment as well at LGF: Mr. Gul is not an Islamist the way Zawahiri is (for example). I've read several interviews with the man, and he comes across as a thoughtful fellow who is religious and wants to serve the state. He's made clear that he does not want sharia or anything close to that for Turkey.

Sure, of course he might be lying through his teeth (he's a politician in the Middle East), but at least in these interviews he seems better than that. His party has done a better job than most in actually running Turkey (see Gordon's post #163), and having one's wife wear a headscarf does not mean the imminent imposition of a caliphate.

The Turkish hard-core seculars could make things much worse by staging a coup -- forget the EU (please), but a coup with a subsequent tanking of the economy, civil strife and disorder could pave the way for true, hard-core Islamicists to make their move.

And: predictably, I was trashed for saying this at LGF :-)

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-08-28 16:18|| 2007-08-28 16:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Make no mistake the AKP are islamists. In their previous incarnation, the Welfare Party, they implemented tenants of sharia, like banning alcohol, until the military banned them. Erdogan and the AKP won't be so brazen again without the power to back them up.

Like other muslims in the west, they are hiding their fangs until they can replace the armed secular men with their own. Taqiyya against their lesser brothers. That is a generational project.

The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, 1998

Posted by ed 2007-08-28 17:45|| 2007-08-28 17:45|| Front Page Top

#11 "Muslem, but not an Islamist" = "A little bit pregnant".

Posted by gromgoru 2007-08-28 17:56|| 2007-08-28 17:56|| Front Page Top

#12 Mr. Gul is not an Islamist the way Zawahiri is (for example). I've read several interviews with the man, and he comes across as a thoughtful fellow who is religious and wants to serve the state. He's made clear that he does not want sharia or anything close to that for Turkey.

That's as may be, but on his watch attacks against non-Muslim and Secularist persons and property have increased; the Orthodox Church's seminary remains closed, yet the government forbids the importation of priests and the elevation of any but a Turk to head the Church in Turkey; and, physical attacks on foreigners seen as proselytizing have included torture and murder, as reported in Rantburg. Regardless of Prime Minister Erdogan's personal beliefs about religion in the public square, there are plenty who've taken his election as license, and I haven't heard PM Erdogan or his representatives so much as publicly abjure such actions, let alone seek conviction of the miscreants and remediation for the victims.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-08-28 19:28|| 2007-08-28 19:28|| Front Page Top

#13 Anyone have a screenshot of Gul Dukat?

Posted by Korora">Korora 2007-08-28 20:20|| 2007-08-28 20:20|| Front Page Top

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