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2005-07-23 Afghanistan/South Asia

US offers warships to India for first time

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Posted by john 2005-07-23 14:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The big item is selling them P-3 Orions. Why would the Indians need those, I wonder?

Prakash also referred to a "big void" in the country's underwater capability and pointed out that the pending multi-billion Euro deal on acquisition of Scorpene submarines from France would be renegotiated to cover pricing, cost escalation as well as to insert transparency and integrity clauses in the deal.

France...integrity... I think this guy has stumbled on the oxymoron of the century.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-23 15:58|| 2005-07-23 15:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Big landing ships? Landing ship docks or the last way cool landing ship tanks? No! maybe a couple of retired LPHs?

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-23 16:06|| 2005-07-23 16:06|| Front Page Top

#3 The big item is selling them P-3 Orions. Why would the Indians need those, I wonder?

Pak has bought 3 Agosta submarines from France (1 built in France, the next 2 under assembly in Pak) that are more advanced than anything in the Indian Navy. Any Chinese SSN or Kilo in the bay of Bengal also needs to be dealt with.

The Il-38 Mays and Tu-142 Bears operated by the IN are getting near the end of their service life and replacements are needed. While T-22 M3 Backfires are said to be part of the Gorshkov carrier deal, the IN prefers more advanced sensor suites.

(The rusting Admiral Gorshkov was "given" to India but it had to pay for upgrade and conversion to STOBAR. The IN also bought Mig-29Ks for the carrier wings of the Gorshkov and the ADS carrier being built in an Indian shipyard. There are reports that the deal also includes the M3 Backfires and two SSNs of the Akula 2 class)

Posted by john 2005-07-23 16:20|| 2005-07-23 16:20|| Front Page Top

#4 planes that don't kill the trainees = good thing

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-07-23 16:33|| 2005-07-23 16:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Backfires are attack bombers ( a sort of scaled down B1)and not comparable with Bears and Il-38 Mays.

Posted by Hupomoque Spoluter7949 2005-07-23 17:06|| 2005-07-23 17:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Yes Backfires are attack bombers, but you mate them up with good comm, Harpoon-class sea skimmers, and droppable torpedos with the proper sonar tracks programmed in, and suddenly all those subs and surface ships in the area become very endangered. Example, 20 Harpoons and 24 torpedos per Backfire and suddenly the Paki and/or ChiCom fleet is not so impressive.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2005-07-23 17:59|| 2005-07-23 17:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Jeebs.... I'd love to see a BackFire drop on a Sub! Train wrecks are so rare anymore.

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-23 18:24|| 2005-07-23 18:24|| Front Page Top

#8 Be sorta like seeing a B-58 attack a PT Boat.

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-23 18:26|| 2005-07-23 18:26|| Front Page Top

#9 I have a sneaking suspicion that both China and India are gearing up for a big land war. Certainly China and the US are at odds, but they are far away from each other. India is the next door neighbor, lost the last round, and both sides have way too many extra young men that need to be culled. Call it a "war based on demographics". The loss of 30 million men on each side would do much to restore the ecological balance.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-07-23 19:14|| 2005-07-23 19:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Makes sense. NMSBS

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-23 19:28|| 2005-07-23 19:28|| Front Page Top

#11 I understand the purchase of P-3's. I don't know that LST's would be useful. I wouldn't mind seeing them obtain Perry class FFG's or Spruance class Destroyers.

Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-23 19:50|| 2005-07-23 19:50|| Front Page Top

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