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2008-07-06 Home Front: Culture Wars

When hippies attack! 400 members of Rainbow Family surround, attack federal officers

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-06 07:30|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 ...Always wondered what happened to the Deadheads after they lost the stabilizing influence of Jerry Garcia.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2008-07-06 08:16|| 2008-07-06 08:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Since the Feds aren't up to the job, there is only one thing to do: Call Cartman!

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-06 08:17|| 2008-07-06 08:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Ever wonder if those two toothless yokels in the pickup in Easy Rider might have known something the rest of us didn't?

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-06 08:20|| 2008-07-06 08:20|| Front Page Top

#4 No one had the brights to call around the professional community to see if anyone had a couple bears that wandered into civilization and needed displacement back into the wild?

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-07-06 08:27|| 2008-07-06 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Always wondered what happened to the Deadheads after they lost the stabilizing influence of Jerry Garcia.

Lemme check muh near digital thermometre.

Yep, just as I suspected.

That was cold, damn cold.

Posted by .5MT 2008-07-06 09:49|| 2008-07-06 09:49|| Front Page Top

#6 But pretty accurate. Rainbow Family has run riot (literally) in federal lands for over a decade.

Posted by lotp 2008-07-06 09:53|| 2008-07-06 09:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Issue M4 carbines to the Scouts and let them take care of the Rainbow.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-07-06 10:09|| 2008-07-06 10:09|| Front Page Top

#8 from a Deadhead - bite me, Mike

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-07-06 10:25|| 2008-07-06 10:25|| Front Page Top

#9 these mooks should never have been allowed to gather without permits, and when they attacked Johnny Law, a beating was in order, followed by eviction by force

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-07-06 10:27|| 2008-07-06 10:27|| Front Page Top

#10 It's time the feds started making rainbow follow the same permitting procedures every other group follows, and when submitted, deny the permits. These gatherings are attended by the looniest of the loons. My biggest beef with it is that the freaks bring their kids, and in so doing, expose them to naked tripping hippies who don't wash themselves and crap wherever they want.

The Rainbow Family also eschew calling in any law enforcement for any reason. Let's see now. Imagine 7,000 attendees. Imagine that a majority of the attendees are on serious drugs. Then imagine how closely the kids are looked after by parents during a week-long gathering in the woods. Methinks Rainbow is probably a life changing event for some of those kids. Ponder that for a moment.

Posted by gb506 2008-07-06 12:28|| 2008-07-06 12:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh, right, blame the apemen for this one.

(sigh).

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-07-06 13:11|| 2008-07-06 13:11|| Front Page Top

#12 The flip side of this is that the federals can't resist rousting the hippies, but like this time, they think half a dozen armed cops, on their own initiative, can bully 400 people. So like this time, they end up being run off. It is part of the ritual.

And since the federals have made it clear that they would never, ever "grant" the hippies the right to have a gathering in a federal park, of course the hippies have to force the issue.

They at first only announce the State, then gradually narrow it down to the actual location just before they all assemble, giving the federals little time to respond.

The Rainbows actually do have a "non-hierarchical" organization, because the federals will arrest anyone they think is a "leader".

At the end of the gathering, a volunteer offers to drive the garbage truck hauling out the waste the hippies have picked up, and he is promptly arrested as a "leader". A human sacrifice, really. He knows he can get six months in prison, but volunteers anyway. They do this so that the federals won't be utterly humiliated, and escalate the harassment and violence.

The gathering itself is subdivided into "camps", to minimize problems. There is even an alcoholic camp, to segregate those who drink in excess. Other volunteers carry radios, and act as peacekeepers when there are problems.

The petty stuff is ignored, but if someone gets drunk and belligerent, or tries to rape or something serious, the radio people give off a "Hey Rube!" call. All the hippies then mass around the troublemaker for a "group hug", immobilizing him. Then if he is a bad one, they duct tape him to a tree until he settles down.

The bottom line is that they have figured out that the federals, a hierarchy, have no way to interact with a non-hierarchical organization.

This was possibly learned from the large, matriarchal Indian tribes, who have puppet "tribal councils", run by men, just so that they can interact with the federal government, even though all the decision making is done by the matriarchs. Otherwise, the federal government cannot interact with them.

So every time there is a gathering, the same dance ensues. The federals try to keep them out, but they get in anyway, then a few federal cops try to bust them up and fail. Then they are usually left alone until everyone starts leaving, when they clean up the area and re-seed the ground with local plant seed, while picking up any trash they or anyone else left there.

And then the garbage truck guy is arrested, and somebody else drives the trash out. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-07-06 14:06|| 2008-07-06 14:06|| Front Page Top

#13 What a steaming pile of moth-eaten counterculture propaganda.

Who died and made you the law?

To begin with, it is your mob that is bullying the rest of us, taking over public land, ousting the (law-abiding) Boy Scouts, and attacking duly appointed officers of the law.

Do you really suppose the feds could not force the issue if they wanted to? Only the power and bias of the media-industrial complex, as rigidly hierarchical and materialistic a structure as ever existed, prevents your mob of middle-class pretenders from being carried off to jial.

The feds did, btw, give Rainbow permission to gather there, so stop gloating about defying them.

As for dealing with non-hierarchical organizations, the feds can do this, as they prove every day when they bust groups of drug dealers or disperse drunken mobs. That is not relevant, however: Many of us have 40 years of experience observing and sometimes interacting with counterculturists. These are among the most hierarchical, totalitarian and rigidly conformist groups ever formed. The lack of formal designation does not change the fact of leadership and subordination.

Btw, you know less than nothing about Native American culture.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2008-07-06 15:38|| 2008-07-06 15:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Anonymoose said:

"The Rainbows actually do have a 'non-hierarchical' organization, because the federals will arrest anyone they think is a 'leader'."

Even Michael Niman says your non-hierarchy is BS, there certainly is a hierarchy within Rainbow. They love to act like there is no hierarchy because a.) it makes then feel egalitarian (even though everyone knows it's a lie), and b.) to avoid any and all responsibility (legal, financial, criminal, etc) for the Rainbow cesspool.

The petty stuff is ignored, but if someone gets drunk and belligerent, or tries to rape or something serious, the radio people give off a 'Hey Rube!' call. All the hippies then mass around the troublemaker for a 'group hug', immobilizing him. Then if he is a bad one, they duct tape him to a tree until he settles down.

OK, so you give the attempted rapist a hug and he calms down. Where the rest of us live, attempted rape will get you prison time and a listing on the sex offenders list. Do you just hope the guy doesn't do it again? What happens if you don't catch the guy before he rapes? A group hug for him then, too. Maybe a friendly wave to the guy at the end of the gathering as he rides off back to society?

I know more than a few Rainbow regular attendees, and I'll bet you that if some guy did rape, it would never get reported to the authorities. I just wonder how many pedophile hippies spend all year dreaming of the kiddie village and the fact that they know a little matter like raping a child won't rise to the level of contacting the authorities.

Whack jobs.

Posted by gb506 2008-07-06 16:11|| 2008-07-06 16:11|| Front Page Top

#15 Why is this asshat undersecretary still employed?

Oh thats right, because (domestically) Bush has no cojones at all, he's a total f**king wimp.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-06 16:44|| 2008-07-06 16:44|| Front Page Top

#16 Atomic Conspiracy: Well, other than most of my childhood friends being Dine (Navajo) and Apache, and knowing a buttload of Rainbow family, and seeing how law enforcement acts around them, I would like to say that it is you that are full of it.

The US has over 130,000 square miles of park land under federal control, most of which is almost entirely ignored, except to keep it out of the hands of the States from which it was stolen. And when citizens would like to use "their" land, for which the feds want them to pay for what used to be free.

So you're telling me that our republic is threatened by a small assemblage of dirty, stinky hippies, who want to cavort out in the wilderness for a week? That this violation of the sovereignty of the US government can only be dealt with by brutalizing and arresting a bunch of pathetic dreadlock wearing, piss poor weaklings?

Oh, hell yeah. Kick them puppies. Take away the meager pleasure they get from "the great outdoors". They deserve no right of free association without surveillance and harassment.

Sorry, but this is no skin off my ass. If they want to go smoke marijuana, dance and beat on bongo drums for a week out in the middle of nowhere, and clean up after, well good for them. That would probably fine recreation for other people as well.

After all, theoretically speaking, it at least *used* to be their land, before it was stolen.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-07-06 17:41|| 2008-07-06 17:41|| Front Page Top

#17 HMMMMMM, FUTURAMA's SEAL = now CEDDAR-flavored SOLYENT snack, versus GIRL SCOUTS-brand Mint Blizzard wid Chocolate-Candy chunks.

Clearly the Scouts lose in the new USSA???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-07-06 19:02|| 2008-07-06 19:02|| Front Page Top

#18 Moose, they have to obey the rules - why are they above the laws, and allowed to stomp on the Boy Scouts who were planning all kinds of improvements and other work, with their own money and labor? The Scouts had this YEARS ago. The Rainbow morons did NOT. They esentially just crashed the place, like vagrants, and dared law enforcemnt to do anything.

The obvious solution was easy - the flower people just delay by a couple weeks. They'd have a nice improved park to go to, the Boy Scouts could do their planned work and service, and everybody wins. Something we all learned in kindergarten: take your turn, be nice to other kids who have been waiting longer than you. Decent. Smart. Simple. Nice.

None of which apparently entered the selfish hippies' addled minds.

Screw these f***ing selfish a-hole hippes. Jail each and every one of them until and unless they learn to play by the rules and stop screwing other people over on their own whims. 30 days ought do it.

Not enough police? Use the National Guard under the appropriate chapter as law enforcement under the Governor, giving them arrest powers (like during Katrina).

Simple fact is they were arrogant selfish assholes, and the park service should have arrested them instead of giving in.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-06 19:56|| 2008-07-06 19:56|| Front Page Top

#19 All I can say is this: I live in rural NW Nevada. That's Burning Man country, so you can't say with any accuracy that we are unaccustomed to having a large number of very strange people come through our communities.

The Burning Man people cause a minimum of trouble, but when a Rainbow Gathering happens over the boarder in NE California the local sheriff comes around to warn everyone to lock everything up. A sizable proportion of the people who go to Rainbow Gatherings are thieves with little or no respect for the local people. Like locusts, they strip the countryside bare whenever they appear.

Posted by Secret Master 2008-07-06 20:04|| 2008-07-06 20:04|| Front Page Top

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