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2014-05-19 China-Japan-Koreas

Chinese Military Said To Be Massing Near The Vietnam Border

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-05-19 10:25|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top
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#1 Is there gonna be the same outrage over this as there was for Crimea? We gonna slap a few sanctions on the Chicoms?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-05-19 10:47|| 2014-05-19 10:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Back in 1979, the PLA (about 200,00 troops and 200 tanks) got their nose blooded. Do they really want another round? I wonder what help, if any, Modi will send. Last November, India offered Vietnam a $100 million line of credit to buy military equipment.

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 11:08|| 2014-05-19 11:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Last couple of days we read about Chinese being evacuated from Vietnam so this makes sense.

Posted by 3dc 2014-05-19 11:09|| 2014-05-19 11:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Is there gonna be the same outrage over this as there was for Crimea? We gonna slap a few sanctions on the Chicoms?

The CPV lacks emotional bank on this side of the Pacific. So unless they ask for out help, I doubt it.

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 11:19|| 2014-05-19 11:19|| Front Page Top

#5 China can see the lack of leadership in the world that would keep their expansion ideas in check. They, like the Russians, are taking advantage of the situation. But I'm sure our fearless leader can take a stern selfie on the golf course and tweet it to the world to fix this. Both China and Russia see the US and any other old world power as not have any strength for the next ten years, if we ever get it back. They are taking advantage of the situation, the world will be an interesting place in ten years...

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-05-19 11:56|| 2014-05-19 11:56|| Front Page Top

#6 As Squinty said, the Chinese got hurt last time. While they are better armed this time around, they are not better trained and led. If they do push into Vietnam, I predict a successful Chinese surge with high casualties that grounds down after a couple days and then a slug match which the Chinese will lose.

This would also be a great opportunity for a warming relationship with Vietnam and the US if the US provided more advanced anti-air weapons and anti-tank weapons.

Posted by DarthVader 2014-05-19 12:22|| 2014-05-19 12:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Nowadays China has both money to burn & several million superfluous young men.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-05-19 13:09|| 2014-05-19 13:09|| Front Page Top

#8 several million superfluous young men.
Those superfluous young men are by in main only sons.

Posted by Shipman 2014-05-19 13:13|| 2014-05-19 13:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Could get interesting if there are still a few Russian advisors in Vietnam.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-19 13:15|| 2014-05-19 13:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Opinion seems to be that China wants a fight. Their plan is to take their neighbors down one by one and force them to cede control over their part of the south china sea. First up, Vietnam.

Japan would be wise to not wait for it to be their turn, say in 2014.

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 16:56|| 2014-05-19 16:56|| Front Page Top

#11 I was reading this.

"The Vietnamese base that would annoy the Chinese most is the one on an islet on South Johnson Reef just seven kilometres north of where the Chinese are now purportedly building an airstrip. The scale of the operation, including a large dredge, suggests thats what its purpose is. There are other airfields in the Spratlys -- Taiwan has one on Taiping Island and the Philippines one on Thitu Island. China was late to this part of the South China Sea and, with no natural islands left, has to dredge up all the coral needed to make its artificial island. "

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 17:03|| 2014-05-19 17:03|| Front Page Top

#12 ...proper environmental statements filed, of course. [I'm sure the usual suspects could find at least a hundred new and unique species of coral there needing vital protection if this was an American dredging]

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-05-19 18:15|| 2014-05-19 18:15|| Front Page Top

#13 Hey, if I dredge together an island in the south china sea I can declare Squintyland and make billions off oil leases. Who knew?

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 18:19|| 2014-05-19 18:19|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm sire Michelle Antoinette and the Administration are preparing their dreaded #hashtag offensive even as we speak.

Posted by CrazyFool 2014-05-19 18:30|| 2014-05-19 18:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Squinty: a thousand or so nuclear weapons, a surplus rebuilt originally-Russian aircraft carrier, and a national leader that likes winning also helps.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-05-19 19:03|| 2014-05-19 19:03|| Front Page Top

#16 Squinty: a thousand or so nuclear weapons, a surplus rebuilt originally-Russian aircraft carrier, and a national leader that likes winning also helps.

Always a catch.

Posted by Squinty 2014-05-19 19:13|| 2014-05-19 19:13|| Front Page Top

#17 I broadly agree wid #10.

China wants these various SCS + ECS territorial disputes settled quickly, permanently, + in its favor.

China already has more than enough PLAN + CG armed assets in the area to crush any Viet Naval + CG opposition.

The above being said, I don't believe China + PLA need to completely mil conquer Vietnam - IMO it just needs to send in PLAA ground forces circa 100-kms inside the Sino-Viet border while simul letting LR PLAAF airpower destroy major Viet economic + infrastructure targets, thus hurting Vietnam's budding economy.

AS VIETNAM = PHIL = JAPAN, ETAL. EAST ASIA STATES, CHINA WANTS THESE IN ITS CAMP, NOT THE US', CHINA'S PRIMARY FOCII IS ERGO PRESSURING VIETNAM TO PERMANENTLY GIVE UP MOST OR ALL CLAIMS TO THE SCS.

Besides, IMO again China is eyeing the Northern PHIL, not just its well-dev Air-Sea ports but also locales where it can base LR DF-21 + TLCMS to challenge intervening USN Carrier BGS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2014-05-19 20:30|| 2014-05-19 20:30|| Front Page Top

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