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2011-05-13 Home Front: WoT

Obama Admin Blast: Tightening Security Around Seal Team 6 and Families

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Posted by Elmavinter Gleack3621 2011-05-13 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 I sense the opportunity to set a honey trap here.

Posted by gorb 2011-05-13 00:20|| 2011-05-13 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 The SEALs can personally thank Joe "VP Cheney's secret bunker is under the Naval Observatory" Biden.

Posted by Zebulon Thranter9685 2011-05-13 01:42|| 2011-05-13 01:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Foot stomp x 4, and please awaken those snoozing in the last row:

Gates could care less about the military. The military is a tool, a cover, to be used at his discretion and for his exploitation. The immediate release of information concerning the unit(s) involved in the operation, both ground and air (before they were even debriefed or had an opportunity to shower) provides clear and present evidence of this. Note the Administration extremis force wizzard Leon Panetta, the operation's all-knowing master planner and handler. Gates and Panetta are first and foremost KLINGONS!

Operations of this type should remain CLASSIFIED and compartmented from start to finish, and it is by no means finished. They and the brave souls involved should not be used as part of a political media campaign. Photos from the White House situation room, news release cock-ups and retractions, displays of false bravado and celebration. All a sickening media circus which has the potential to produce unwelcomed dividends for men and women in uniform and their families.

Members of Congress are having to make special appointments with Panetta's agency, then be called forth to the Klingon Temple for a special viewing of the view Osama photographs. Tell me please, whom do YOU feel wields the power?

Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-13 03:21|| 2011-05-13 03:21|| Front Page Top

#4 You can tell that this is b.s., simply because if there was any real concern, they and their families would be quietly shipped out on TDY to places where they wouldn't be noticed, definitely out of CONUS.

The US has forces deployed in over 100 countries, many of which have family with them. So put one SEAL in an AF uniform, with his family in Seoul; a couple bachelors in a BOQ in Germany, running the post O Club; assign another and his family to the US embassy annex in Scotland, etc.

It is not hard at all to do "friendly disappearances", and is part of their job description.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-05-13 09:45|| 2011-05-13 09:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Amazing 1 (one) day secret!

Mr Gates said details of the raid had leaked despite the intention by officials to keep them secret.

"Frankly a week ago Sunday, in the [White House] situation room, we all agreed that we would not release any operational details from the effort to take out Bin Laden," he said.

"That all fell apart on Monday, the next day."

Posted by Willy 2011-05-13 10:05|| 2011-05-13 10:05|| Front Page Top

#6 The whole thing was desperate political theatre.

Posted by gorb 2011-05-13 10:18|| 2011-05-13 10:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Press release:

INFIL bird has "mechanical trouble" had to be destroyed with the thermite grenade... except for the tail rotor which rests adjacent the compound wall.

Alternate scenario:

All birds made it fine to the INFIL site without a hint of mechanical trouble. One of the lead birds flared for landing too early and too low, stuck the tail boom on the compound wall, and had to be destoyed with a thermite grenade.

"What do you think we are...stupid?"

Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-13 10:33|| 2011-05-13 10:33|| Front Page Top

#8 I would have preferred President Ronald Reagan's approach in how to discuss this mission, compared to President Obama.

These young Americans sent a message to terrorists everywhere ... You can run but you can't hide.
(On US pilots who captured four terrorists)
- Ronald Reagan

Say as little as possible, to reduce the chance that your comments could be used by those, who wish to do us harm. Sadly, I have to say, it's too late now.

Posted by Delphi 2011-05-13 12:22|| 2011-05-13 12:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Amen Delphi.

Also, smells like:

a. No one in the administration ever thought the missionj would gain approval and actually be executed.

b. Therefore no thought given to post event security, civilian media releases, or effective Information Operations planning.

c. Amateurs teaching amateurs how to become amateurs. If you fail to plan, you plan must surely be to fail.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-13 12:32|| 2011-05-13 12:32|| Front Page Top

#10 I have heard it described, that what we are seeing now, is what happens when you let the B Team players take the lead, instead of placing the best of your A Team instead. Amateurs!

Posted by Delphi 2011-05-13 12:40|| 2011-05-13 12:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Not knowing what to do and having no firm plan for the post event, one would think they might huddle and arrive at logical, well thought out COA's based on security and other reasonable post-event assumptions.

No, not even! Throwing common sense and reason to the wind, they immediately launched into a media circus ained at praising and lifting up on shoulders The One!

Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-13 12:51|| 2011-05-13 12:51|| Front Page Top

#12 Gates could care less about the military. The military is a tool, a cover, to be used at his discretion and for his exploitation.

Gates is a career bureaucrat with a track record, and on his way out. Change that to "the President's discretion" and you might, might be halfway accurate.

No one in the administration ever thought the missionj would gain approval and actually be executed.

If the rumors are to be believed, it was pretty much a 'go' after the White House political handlers had been dealt with.

Therefore no thought given to post event security, civilian media releases, or effective Information Operations planning.

More like the political wing of the White House, having been either bypassed or trumped on the decision, saw an opportunity to exploit the situation. Senate committees were briefed and from there it was leaked down the political chain almost immediately.

It's the old saying of "success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan". Had the operation failed, the blame would have been laid on both Gates and Panetta, the NSC, and to a lesser extent, the SecState. I suspect an immediate presidential foreign trip would've been announced as well.

Posted by Pappy 2011-05-13 12:54|| 2011-05-13 12:54|| Front Page Top

#13 "I suspect an immediate presidential foreign trip would've been announced as well."
Followed by another vacation - don't forget the vacation, Pappy.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2011-05-13 13:10|| http://www.celiahayes.com 2011-05-13 13:10|| Front Page Top

#14 Your assessment could very well be accurate, but in the end, it matters little because the circus still came to town. The Information Operations advantage was pissed away, as was operational security (units, unit members, families, potential future similar missions etc). What possible benefit could be harvested from an already successful operation, by informing the world of "the treasure trove" of document exploitation materials recovered in the raid? A classic cock-up of the first order all for the benefit of one man and his communist cadre.

Posted by Besoeker 2011-05-13 13:12|| 2011-05-13 13:12|| Front Page Top

#15 When I coached football I told my running backs to "act like you've been there before" when they score a touchdown.

The Obambi administration is not acting like they've been there before. It's as if they have never done anything and something worked.

It is just pathetic to see the pushing and shoving of all of the administration types fighting over the microphone and the needy little nebishes in the administration trying to get something by leaking anything and everything to the press.

I don't care whose administration this is, the freaking leaks and blown intell sources has to stop now. Someone needs to be drawn and quartered about leaking info and maybe it will stop.

The nitwits in the CIA that leaked all of those things to the NYT should be in jail as should the reporters and editors who printed the information that protracted the search for OBL.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-05-13 13:21|| 2011-05-13 13:21|| Front Page Top

#16 What possible benefit could be harvested from an already successful operation, by informing the world of "the treasure trove" of document exploitation materials recovered in the raid?

Given this bunch, I'd say "never attribute to incompetence what can be attributed to naked political ambition".

At least they haven't left the bodies lying dead in a park.

Posted by Pappy 2011-05-13 13:23|| 2011-05-13 13:23|| Front Page Top

#17 I think BHO's handlers are asking themselves two questions:

1- How can we get a couple of the SEALs to campaign with BHO?

2- What happens if one of the SEALs shows up on a stage with Sarah Palin? (In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if BHO's "oppo research" team has put together a little file on each of the SEALs, just in case.)

At the rate security is falling apart on this, I doubt the names of the team will stay out of the press for more than another 30 days. There's just too much glory here.

Pardon my cynicism.

Posted by Matt 2011-05-13 14:09|| 2011-05-13 14:09|| Front Page Top

#18 "Operations of this type should remain CLASSIFIED and compartmented from start to finish, and it is by no means finished."

No one should ever have mentioned anything at all. That includes that little boy man President. You kill OBL and STFU. That way, you garner intel. That way, everyone is safe. That way, every haji on a thumb drive is found and killed.

This is how you know your President is a stupid A-Hole. It's all politics all the time. It's all about him, not the lowly guys who could snap his neck.
He is a clown show in a clown car in an empty suit, eating a fake sandwich which he pretended to steal from a commoner. F-O$AMA

Posted by newc 2011-05-13 14:11|| 2011-05-13 14:11|| Front Page Top

#19 Comeon guys! What's the big deal?

So what are the lives of a few SEALS and their families against the advance of Obama and the socialist's political goals?

After all, isn't he the ONE?

I find your lack of faith disturbing....

(/sarc)

So put one SEAL in an AF uniform, with his family in Seoul; a couple bachelors in a BOQ in Germany,

Don't forget to employ one as a cook on a Battleship....

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-05-13 14:52|| 2011-05-13 14:52|| Front Page Top

#20 A Tempest in a glass of water: for Muslims any random Americans (or even Pakistanis) are perfectly acceptable revenge targets. The only danger to the Seals is from useful idiots.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-05-13 15:03|| 2011-05-13 15:03|| Front Page Top

#21 Terrorists love soft targets. Real SEALs epitomize the term hard target. The multitudes of newly self-appointed SEAL team 6 "members" (aka as the loudmouth barstool brigade) are a different story.

Hard to know who to root for there.

Posted by Whenter McCoy5965 2011-05-13 15:23|| 2011-05-13 15:23|| Front Page Top

#22 Even real battleship cooks can be dangerous.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-05-13 20:42|| 2011-05-13 20:42|| Front Page Top

#23 Excellent story Anguper.
Commissioned on 30 June 1973, USS Miller (FF-1091), a Knox-class frigate, was named in honor of Doris Miller.

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-05-13 21:27|| 2011-05-13 21:27|| Front Page Top

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