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2004-05-04 Home Front: Politix
I can fly a plane too!
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Posted by G-Man in Chicago 2004-05-04 1:27:18 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "...to see it all upside down was the perfect way to see the Middle East and Israel"

huh?
Posted by mhw 2004-05-04 2:26:08 PM||   2004-05-04 2:26:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 MHW -- Remember, it's KERRY.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-04 2:35:42 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-05-04 2:35:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 lol watch him get caught out on this one too, bet it turns out he just took a private jet from A to B in Israel and got to sit in the co-pilots chair,what a fool.
Posted by Shep UK 2004-05-04 2:37:13 PM||   2004-05-04 2:37:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hey - Kerry himself is a little upside down, so by flying the plane upside down, he becomes rightside-up RIGHT?
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-04 2:52:21 PM||   2004-05-04 2:52:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 On local NPR this AM, discussing the pros/cons of the Dems having the convention in Boston this year, the Dem consultant, referring to Kerry, accidentally said "Dukakis", then quickly corrected himself. Laughingly says to the interviewer, "haha, you're not going to air that, right?"

Well, they did.
Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-05-04 2:56:48 PM||   2004-05-04 2:56:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh by the way, Al-Aska Paul can confirm this, *flying* a plane is easy, it's the damn landing part that gets difficult...
Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-05-04 2:57:55 PM||   2004-05-04 2:57:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound! Carl in N.H. is right. Also, "aerobatics" aint easy. a loop is harder than one would think. There is a very big risk of stalling. Maybe he just did a half roll and flew upside down. Or if you prefer, ass-up.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-05-04 3:05:23 PM||   2004-05-04 3:05:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Is it 72 or 73 flips that make a flop?
Posted by .com 2004-05-04 3:07:31 PM||   2004-05-04 3:07:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Perhaps Bush should challenge him to a dogfight. Let's just see how well Kerry can fly a jet.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2004-05-04 4:39:39 PM||   2004-05-04 4:39:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Laurence, terrif idea!
ROFL... I'd buy a ticket to that one!
Posted by Jen  2004-05-04 4:54:43 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-05-04 4:54:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 If he flys that Isralei jet upside down, how does he drive that SUV. "Clear the streets, the Senator is passing this way soon. . ."
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-04 4:59:55 PM||   2004-05-04 4:59:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Count me in, Laurence and Jen! I'd take out a loan if necessary to afford the ticket.

Hey, we could pay off the national debt with this....
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-05-04 5:02:07 PM||   2004-05-04 5:02:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 "The "AWOL from the National Guard" charges aren’t getting any more traction with the voters. So if you can’t discredit President Bush on his service record, copy him. I’ll bet Mr. Kerry soon will admit he used to clear brush from the hillside of his wife’s villa too."
Umm...riiiiiight. Kerry fought in the Vietnam War. It's not like he tried to skip out by joining the National Guard or something. Kerry only brought up the "AWOL from the National Guard" because the Bush camp questioned his service in Vietnam.
You see, the difference between John Kerry and George W. Bush is that Kerry is a veteran who served the country. Bush served in the national guard to skip going to Vietnam. Only if he had served today...maybe he'd know what the fighting's actually like by actually having to fight in Iraq.
Posted by GreatBear 2004-05-04 5:31:48 PM||   2004-05-04 5:31:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Those who want to try to put sKerry head to head with the C-I-C on the military service thing should be careful (oooops, too late) . . . they may get what they’ve wished for. Enter, the doctor (EFL): Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out

I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay. John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat . . . The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight . . . Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. . . . That seemed to fit the injury which I treated. What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. . . . The wound was covered with a bandaid.

bahahahahawha
Posted by cingold 2004-05-04 5:42:22 PM||   2004-05-04 5:42:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Wrong, "Great" "Bear"--As a National Guard pilot, President Bush requested Vietnam duty and was turned down because the war was ramping down and the plane he was qualified for wasn't being used for Vietnam missions.
Do some research!
And before the WOT began, we usually lost servicemen who were killed piloting jet aircraft Statesside, just like Lt. Bush.
He risked his life every time he flew.
Just like Kerry did in combat.
And had he been killed, it would have been in service to his country, same as every other soldier, so...
FOAD.
Posted by Jen  2004-05-04 5:42:49 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-05-04 5:42:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Love it, cingold!
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!
Posted by Jen  2004-05-04 5:44:13 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-05-04 5:44:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Never mind - Jen - You said it, Thanks
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-04 5:45:17 PM||   2004-05-04 5:45:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 I'm impressed with Kaptain Krosswind Kerry's derring-do with flying right seat in someone elses bird. Aluminum ships and wooden men, heh heh. What a maroon!
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-04 5:51:37 PM||   2004-05-04 5:51:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Oh, oooops, re #14. Hattip to Drudge. :)
Posted by cingold 2004-05-04 5:57:53 PM||   2004-05-04 5:57:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 GreatBear are you joking? I hope so. You can't be serious. Tell all the National Guard troops in Iraq and Afghanistan that they are skipping out. You are foolish.
Posted by Yosemite Sam  2004-05-04 6:03:40 PM||   2004-05-04 6:03:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 "Senator, you’d better turn faster, you’re going over Egypt."

"I don't make mistakes, that SOB secret service agent distracted me. And if you ever tell anyone I flew in this plane, I'll say that Teresa owned it, not me. Now get me on the ground, I'm late for my haircut."
Posted by sludj 2004-05-04 6:05:09 PM||   2004-05-04 6:05:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 AP, during 2nd class summer, all midshipmen take a trip to Groton, Quantico and Pensacola to get a look at the non-surface warfare options for service. During this trips you get brought up in some kind of aircraft or helicopter and are given the stick. In that type of situation I have never heard of a novice being given the stick during take-off or aerobatic maneuvers. Is this whole scenario likely?
Posted by Super Hose  2004-05-04 6:11:16 PM||   2004-05-04 6:11:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 I am sure the pilot is glad he didn't let Kerry test the weapons. The riccochet might have hit something delicate, and brought down the plane (See the post about Purple Heart #1)
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-04 6:53:34 PM||   2004-05-04 6:53:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 The story is plausible. If he was attending an ADL meeting, they would have bent over backwards for a Senator. Want to fly over Israel in a jet? Let's just gas one up and take her up. Oh here fly the plane for a while. Anything you want Senator we need friends in the Senate. What SH says is true for Air Force Cadets too. They take them up and let them "spread their wings and slip the bonds of earth." Unless the pilot was walking him through it I doubt the loopty-loop story.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-05-04 7:20:53 PM||   2004-05-04 7:20:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Well, Great Bear, Kerry was IN Vietnam for a short while. Not clear he FOUGHT there.

Ditto for West Point re: military academy cadets getting a little flying experience.

The main Israeli military airport is in Tel Aviv. If he was headed to Aqaba it means they took him across the Negev (nobody else to kill if they went down). Max 200 miles out to the actual water and 200 back from Tel Aviv, not all of that under his control of course. Less if they went towards the Egyptian border rather than the Gulf itself, maybe a total trip of 250-300 mi.

The IAF flys a version of the F-16 and I think they use trainer versions of the F-16 for practice. That jet can hit 1500 mph (Mach 2), commonly cruises at 400-600 mph.

Do the math and decide for yourself how long Kerry had the stick and how much they probably let him do ....
Posted by Dem no more 2004-05-04 7:45:12 PM||   2004-05-04 7:45:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 "Clear the streets, the Senator is passing this way soon. . ."

Sorry, BigEd. Up here we save that one for our other Senator.
Posted by tu3031 2004-05-04 9:05:48 PM||   2004-05-04 9:05:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Could've been much worse. Kerry could have had a Vietnam flashback during his flight.
Posted by Rafael 2004-05-04 10:52:18 PM||   2004-05-04 10:52:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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