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2009-04-20 China-Japan-Koreas

Jackie Chan agrees with 19th century British: "Chinese people need to be controlled."

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Posted by gromky 2009-04-20 03:14|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1774 views ] Top

1 Just more reason not to take your political advice from actors.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2009-04-20 08:39|| 2009-04-20 08:39|| Front Page Top

2 Also, the Chinese character for "chaos" has a much uglier connotation than in English. His remarks about chaotic government should be colored in that respect.

Posted by gromky 2009-04-20 08:45|| 2009-04-20 08:45|| Front Page Top

3 I can't help but think something is being lost in translation here. The statements, taken together, are not cross supporting. My 2 cents.

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2009-04-20 08:45|| 2009-04-20 08:45|| Front Page Top

4 "If I need to buy a TV, I'll definitely buy a Japanese TV. A Chinese TV might explode."

I guess they don't have FTC requirements to label source of origin by degree of content on their products not sold in the US since most 'Japanese' TVs are not manufactured in Japan anymore and most likely are manufactured in China.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-20 08:56|| 2009-04-20 08:56|| Front Page Top

5 He doesn't just agree with the 19th century British, it sounds like he agrees with 1930's and 40's Japanese.

If the Chinese are uniquely unsuited for self-government having a Chinese elite only makes the problem worse, especially for the rest of us who aren't Chinese. The only thing that solves the problem is subjecting them to someone _else_.

And unfortunately we lost half a million people in the last war we fought to among other things keep them from being subjected to the Japanese.

Nice to know we were idiots. You should have told us this stuff back in November 1941, we could have cut a deal.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-04-20 09:16|| 2009-04-20 09:16|| Front Page Top

6 Celebrities making mind-bendingly stupid pronouncements on political and cultural issues--not just an American phenomenon!

Posted by Mike 2009-04-20 09:45|| 2009-04-20 09:45|| Front Page Top

7 Nice to know we were idiots. You should have told us this stuff back in November 1941, we could have cut a deal.

That's because State was run by another set of idiots who thought of China in the fiction of Pearl Buck's The Good Earth which was nothing more then the 30s version of Rachel Carson's Silent Spring distorting realities for agenda which resulted in even greater suffering for humanity. China was the land of petty warlords and pre-Enlightenment and Industrialization poverty. Guilty parties all around for the suffering. State's 'soft diplomacy' of the oil embargo forced the Japanese hand while at the same time State play games with Japanese diplomats who had no real power or influence which actually resided with the military caste running the real show in Tokyo. Things never change, just the cast of characters.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-20 10:45|| 2009-04-20 10:45|| Front Page Top

8 At the tender age of six, Jackie was sent to the China Drama Academy, a Peking Opera School. His father moved to Australia. Basically, Jackie's parents dropped him off with acrobatic circus carnies and ran.

Having a tough childhood is what made Jackie into who he is, and also made him fear the unruliness he experienced in his unsettling childhood. He is frightened of that same unruliness in the larger Chinese society, and longs to have the patriarchy restored that was ripped from his clutches at age six.

Taiwan, a budding and prosperous society, poses a threat to the mainlands self-image. The mainland is threatened by their success and so is Jackie.

Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-20 11:09|| 2009-04-20 11:09|| Front Page Top

9 Procopius said:

Guilty parties all around for the suffering. State's 'soft diplomacy' of the oil embargo forced the Japanese hand while at the same time State play games with Japanese diplomats who had no real power or influence which actually resided with the military caste running the real show in Tokyo.

Given Japan's ambitions who far exceeded China sooner or mate it would have clased with the United States. The mistake was not pushing Japan to war but doing so while not preparing for it: Wildcats, P40s, Brewseter Buffaloes, torpedoes who don't explode that is not the hailmark of an adminitrstion who has done its homework before going to war.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2009-04-20 14:44|| 2009-04-20 14:44|| Front Page Top

10 Not to mention that despite Midway the US carrier fleet remained inferior to the Japanese one until mid 1943 (and at one point the number of available Alerican carriers was exactly zero) and gross overestimation of China's capabilities: in fact Chinese soldiers died in droves from hunger and those who didn't were no match for the Japanese. Roosevelt had read to many Peal S Buck novels.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2009-04-20 15:01|| 2009-04-20 15:01|| Front Page Top

11 First Mel and now this. Clint went wussy and Arnold has shown himself to be a girly man. Well, at least we still have the Navy SEALs.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-04-20 16:13|| 2009-04-20 16:13|| Front Page Top

12 OTOH, WORLD MIL FORUM [old] > THE PEOPLE OF HONGKONG + OVERSEAS CHINESE LIKE AMERICA; + HONGKONG MEDIA: DESPITE KIM JONG-IL [referred/described in Arcticle as "KIM JONG DOO-DO/DOO-DO/DOOK-DO KIM], THE PEOPLE OF NORTH KOREA LIKE AMERICA.

* DON'T KIDNAP ME [tase], BRO > Hopefully KIMMIE + NORTH KOREAN INTEL will understand it twasn't that Guy-from-Guam whom wrote the article.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-04-20 19:05|| 2009-04-20 19:05|| Front Page Top

13 ION CHINA, WORLD MIL FORUM > IIUC, ARTIC describes how 1.4MILYUHN? CHINESE may had been exposed to serious to severe levels, wid 190,000 DEAD, of VARIOUS FORMS OF DIRECT, INDIRECT RADIATION POISONING as a consequence of China's NUCLEAR BOMB TESTS = MAO/CHIN's COLD WAR DRIVE TO DEV NUCWEAPS + BECOME A NUCLEAR POWER.

POTENS THE WORST CASE EVAH! IN WORLD, NUCLEAR HISTORY???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-04-20 19:12|| 2009-04-20 19:12|| Front Page Top

14 The action hero complained that Chinese goods still have too many quality problems. He became emotional when discussing contaminated milk powder that sickened tens of thousands of Chinese babies in the past year.

Speaking fast with his voice rising, Chan said, "If I need to buy a TV, I'll definitely buy a Japanese TV. A Chinese TV might explode."

He has a point.

Posted by regular joe 2009-04-20 20:03|| 2009-04-20 20:03|| Front Page Top

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