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Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 12:33|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11125 views ]  Top

#1 A tad underwhelming; there's nothing in there that we didn't already know.
Posted by Raj 2018-02-02 12:48||   2018-02-02 12:48|| Front Page Top

#2 That WE didn't know. Now it's public for the low information voters. Gonna be fun to watch them try to spin it.
Posted by Lowspark 2018-02-02 12:55||   2018-02-02 12:55|| Front Page Top

#3 “Tip of The Iceberg” – The Pending Intelligence Memo is The Beginning, Not The End…
Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2018-02-02 13:09||   2018-02-02 13:09|| Front Page Top

#4 Lowspark - this assumes some other outlet than FoxNews carries the info. Otherwise they will never know.

BTW John Barleycorn must die ;)
Posted by Warthog 2018-02-02 13:10||   2018-02-02 13:10|| Front Page Top

#5 John McCain assails Nunes memo, warns GOP is 'doing Putin's job for him'
Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2018-02-02 13:13||   2018-02-02 13:13|| Front Page Top

#6 there's nothing in there that we didn't already know

Cause Rantburg is a better and more reliable source than Fusion GPS, but ours gets labeled Rantburg Prime not Top Secret.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-02-02 13:13||   2018-02-02 13:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Vast - is John McCain's brain tumor now bigger than his pea sized brain?
Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 13:17||   2018-02-02 13:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Wasn't there a rumor that McCain was handed the dossier?
Posted by Clem Kadiddlehopper9000 2018-02-02 13:20||   2018-02-02 13:20|| Front Page Top

#9 @#'s 7 and 8: the "McCain Legacy" is experiencing some "Climate Change."
Posted by Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2018-02-02 13:23||   2018-02-02 13:23|| Front Page Top

#10 When will charges be brought before a grand jury?
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 13:30||   2018-02-02 13:30|| Front Page Top

#11 [‎2/‎2/‎2018 11:28 AM]
The dossier was not a crime. The dems paying for it was not a crime. Using an FBI informant to write it is grey. Using it for political gain is underhanded, but not against the law. But taking pure fiction, using the informants reputation, and delivering it to the FBI in an attempt to force legal action against a candidate, corrupting the most classified warrant system, and violating the constitutional rights of American citizens in an effort to discredit a legitimate candidate and corruptly take an election to the highest office in America is not only criminal, not only qualifies under RICO, but it is the definition of a soft coup and treason.
Posted by 49 Pan 2018-02-02 13:56||   2018-02-02 13:56|| Front Page Top

#12 Meh, agreed, no new bombshells...for US.

Now the IG report...
Posted by Frank G 2018-02-02 14:05||   2018-02-02 14:05|| Front Page Top

#13 Wasn't there a rumor that McCain was handed the dossier?

You may be thinking of this, from Byron York

David Kramer, a former State Department official who, in late November 2016, traveled to London to receive a briefing and a copy of the Trump dossier from its author, former British spy Christopher Steele. Kramer then returned to the U.S. to give the document to Sen. John McCain.

McCain later took a copy of the dossier to the FBI's then-director, James Comey. But the FBI already had the document; Steele himself gave the dossier to the bureau in installments, reportedly beginning in early July 2016.
Posted by Omimp Flusonter1547 2018-02-02 14:12||   2018-02-02 14:12|| Front Page Top

#14 The two biggies that jump out to me are:

The "corroborating media articles that were used to validate the dossier were in fact initiated by either Steele himself, in meetings with the media, OR were plants created by Fusion to PAID journalists.

Second, McCabe admitted in testimony to Congress in December that the warrants would not have been sought without the dossier.

According to the memo the sole validity placed on the dossier by the FBI was Steele's previous reputation as a reliable source (they either ignored, or were not told by Steele that the dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign).

I still don't understand why, after it came out that the Clinton campaign financed this thing, that the investigation was curtailed.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2018-02-02 14:25||   2018-02-02 14:25|| Front Page Top

#15 Tip of the iceberg? You gotta wonder if they'd do this what else would they do?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-02-02 14:38||   2018-02-02 14:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Got to be more to this story. Labeled TOP SECRET/NOFORN....? Where is the DECLAS guidance? Where is the summary? Something is missing.
Posted by Besoeker 2018-02-02 15:05||   2018-02-02 15:05|| Front Page Top

#17 What, a collateral TS document? And, yeah, where are/were the original declassification instructions?
Posted by Clem 2018-02-02 15:59||   2018-02-02 15:59|| Front Page Top

#18 Oh, and how 'bout that transparency, eh?
Posted by Clem 2018-02-02 16:01||   2018-02-02 16:01|| Front Page Top

#19 Never forget the words of Andy Grove: "Only the paranoid survive!"
Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 16:12||   2018-02-02 16:12|| Front Page Top

#20 Jan 12,2017 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/
Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 17:37||   2018-02-02 17:37|| Front Page Top

#21 http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/24/senator-asks-doj-about-democrats-work-with-ukraine-to-smear-trump-campaign/#masthead
Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 17:43||   2018-02-02 17:43|| Front Page Top

#22 if it is not enough, we still have two more coming out. All three together will show enough misfeasance and malfeasance to set up a paddy waggon.
Posted by newc 2018-02-02 17:45||   2018-02-02 17:45|| Front Page Top

#23 A source close to Mr Steele said on Wednesday night that he now fears a prompt and potentially dangerous backlash against him from Moscow.

Clearly total BS and an attempt at misdirection. Good thing for Steele that President Trump isn't Putin.

I am reminded of this quote.

"And thou, SteeleMelkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined."
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion

All the donks have accomplished is to prove that they are criminals who deserve to be kicked out of the swamp. It would have been hard for The Donold to accomplish this without their help.
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 17:50||   2018-02-02 17:50|| Front Page Top

#24 49 Pan has it (comment #11). #16 Besoeker raises good points, but I presume they are in the queue. As far as I know, POTUs can declassify any damn thing, but would be cautious if too revealing.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2018-02-02 18:12||   2018-02-02 18:12|| Front Page Top

#25 It is just the tip of the iceberg; just the begining and believe me, the Dems see the dangers. The implications of the memo are not insignificant. There are risks to the MSM, peoples careers and their very freedom, intelligence agencies, HRC and those around her, Mueller's witch hunt. Moreover, it opens the door to other investigations. The next ought to be Uranium One. After that, the Clinton Foundation. After that pick one: theft of Haiti monies, child trafficking, distribution of fake AID's drugs in Africa, money laundering, campaign fraud, vote-rigging, etc.
Posted by JohnQC 2018-02-02 18:14||   2018-02-02 18:14|| Front Page Top

#26 Oh please.

7.2.4. 5 U.S.C. §7324. Political activities on duty; prohibition

(a) An employee may not engage in political activity—

(1) while the employee is on duty;

(2) in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by an individual
employed or holding office in the Government of the United States or any agency or
instrumentality thereof;

FBI Ethics and Integrity Program
Policy Directive and Policy Guide
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 18:17||   2018-02-02 18:17|| Front Page Top

#27 Devin Nunes is a hero in all this.
Posted by JohnQC 2018-02-02 18:19||   2018-02-02 18:19|| Front Page Top

#28 JohnQC,

:-bd
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 18:24||   2018-02-02 18:24|| Front Page Top

#29 Nune's was just on Fox and said this memo just covered FISA abuses. He said there would be other memos. Being that it is the Intelligence Committee, it would most likely involve intelligence abuses such as the mishandling of classified info. Look out Comey and look out Clinton.
Posted by JohnQC 2018-02-02 18:32||   2018-02-02 18:32|| Front Page Top

#30 Devin Nunes is a hero in all this.
Posted by JohnQC

Hero? Yes, certainly appears that way to me, and by the way, release of the memo didn't prompt a zombie apocalypse as predicted by the dems.
Posted by Besoeker 2018-02-02 18:32||   2018-02-02 18:32|| Front Page Top

#31 release of the memo didn't prompt a zombie apocalypse

It might from a donk zombie's point of view; gonna be a lot of cooked zombies!
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 18:39||   2018-02-02 18:39|| Front Page Top

#32 Removal works for me.

5 U.S. Code § 7326 - Penalties

An employee or individual who violates section 7323 or 7324 shall be subject to removal, reduction in grade, debarment from Federal employment for a period not to exceed 5 years, suspension, reprimand, or an assessment of a civil penalty not to exceed $1,000.
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 18:45||   2018-02-02 18:45|| Front Page Top

#33 Senator Grassley said the Judiciary Committee is about to release their FBI, Steele, Russian dossier memo (being reported @ Gateway Pundit.) Soon, the DOJ OIG extensive report is going to be issued. Look out tsunami coming!
Posted by JohnQC 2018-02-02 18:58||   2018-02-02 18:58|| Front Page Top

#34 Maybe they'll wait for McCain to die then they'll blame the whole thing on him.
Posted by gorb 2018-02-02 19:28||   2018-02-02 19:28|| Front Page Top

#35 Remedies for violations
Both the subchapters covering physical searches and electronic surveillance provide for criminal and civil liability for violations of FISA.

Criminal sanctions follows violations of electronic surveillance by intentionally engaging in electronic surveillance under the color of law or through disclosing information known to have been obtained through unauthorized surveillance. The penalties for either act are fines up to US $10,000, up to five years in jail, or both.[15]

In addition, the statute creates a cause of action for private individuals whose communications were unlawfully monitored. The statute permits actual damages of not less than $1,000 or $100 per day. In addition, that statute authorizes punitive damages and an award of attorney's fees.[16] Similar liability is found under the subchapter pertaining to physical searches. In both cases, the statute creates an affirmative defense for law enforcement personnel acting within their official duties and pursuant to a valid court order. Presumably, such a defense is not available to those operating exclusively under presidential authorization.

Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 19:30||   2018-02-02 19:30|| Front Page Top

#36 So basically, democrats and little happy slaves in the media are treasonous vermin. Which we already knew.
Posted by Silentbrick 2018-02-02 19:34||   2018-02-02 19:34|| Front Page Top

#37 These FISA wiretaps were made under the color of law making them a violation of the law.
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 19:36||   2018-02-02 19:36|| Front Page Top

#38 I'm curious where in the memo is the 'highly classifed' information which the FBI and NSA claimed would destroy civilization if the memo was released.
Am I missing something?
Posted by CrazyFool 2018-02-02 20:32||   2018-02-02 20:32|| Front Page Top

#39 CrazyFool,
Nope. I noticed the same thing.
Posted by U. Slirt7126 2018-02-02 20:56||   2018-02-02 20:56|| Front Page Top

#40 http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/01/31/508473/Trump-fires-acting-attorney-general
Posted by 3dc 2018-02-02 22:05||   2018-02-02 22:05|| Front Page Top

#41 The Dims refuse to acknowledge that Americans are exceptional at everything. Including being exceptionally Deplorable if the situation (draining swamps) calls for it.
Posted by Unart Glusong4283 2018-02-02 22:49||   2018-02-02 22:49|| Front Page Top

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