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2007-01-28 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-01-28 08:33|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 From the article:

Jens Orback, former Democracy Minister in the Social Democratic Swedish government, said during a radio debate that: We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.

I think Europe is fucked. And we might be, too, unless we wise up damn fast.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-28 09:55|| 2007-01-28 09:55|| Front Page Top

#2 The Swedish news website The Local writes about The Holocaust: Swedenâs complex legacy. Thatâs great. Unfortunately, it quickly degenerates into bashing all those who oppose Swedenâs policies of mass migration.

That complex legacy is being expressed by importing a horde who deny the first Holocaust even as they carry out the next.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-28 12:07|| 2007-01-28 12:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Fear not, Dave. Europe is fucked, but we're not. Europe has multiple weaknesses that we can't even imagine.

(1) The "supranational" EU government has robbed members of their sovereignty, rule by diktat from Brussels, and mostly echo dear old Jens here.

(2) The same EUrocrats have built an economic model that resembles the USSR's more than ours. Unemployment, GDP growth, bankrupt budgets -- basically all economic indicators point to continued crapulence and decline.

(3) Demography -- most of the EU has birthrates below replacement rates, and the most popular baby name in many cities is Muhammad. The US is at replacement rate; even if many of them are named Jose, at least they're Catholic. Furthermore, native Europeans are leaving in droves.

(4) There is no alternative European media. "News" consists of an endless drone of pro-Muslim, pro-EU, anti-Israel, and anti-American propaganda, punctuated by the occasional nail sticking up who is promptly hammered down.

(5) Americans are armed to the teeth, both individually and as a nation, and don't have a problem pulling the trigger if sufficiently provoked.

The situation in the US isn't perfect, but it amounts to hemorrhoids and the occasional touch of stomach flu. Europe is already a corpse, merely awaiting the autopsy report.

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-28 12:14|| 2007-01-28 12:14|| Front Page Top

#4 #1 Hear, hear.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-01-28 12:43|| 2007-01-28 12:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks, exJAG, you've cheered me up somewhat. I'd be even more cheered up, except that the Left in this country is doing its damnedest to infect America with the same ailments you cited for Europe.

Speaking of "armed to the teeth", what's up with ammo prices lately? They're going through the roof. I somebody getting ready for a civil war, or something?

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-28 13:41|| 2007-01-28 13:41|| Front Page Top

#6 what's up with ammo prices lately?

Load your own, I do, the initial price is eairly high, but once the various machinery is bought, it"s pennies a round forever after.

I saw the handwriting on the wall years ago when the gun-grabbers tried to ban/license ammunition, Storage closet is now full of manuals, lead ingots, powders, primers, scales, case sizers, trimmers and molds, i"ve loaded enough to be sure I can do it right, and tested my own reloads for reliability and safety. All is well here.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-01-28 16:01|| 2007-01-28 16:01|| Front Page Top

#7 You bet, Dave. Looking at Europe always puts things in perspective for me too.

Sure, our left-wing "hemorrhoids" want to take us down the same path as the EU. But that brings up another huge difference between America and Europe: the general disposition of the inhabitants.

Europeans have spent centuries living as serfs laboring for an aloof elite, resulting in an ingrained passivity. They're resigned to being powerless to stop whatever new and improved freight train their rulers have invented. They're not only physically disarmed, but psychologically as well. It's why Europe has always sucked, since long before they ever had an America to flee to.

The American disposition, of course, gave us Patrick Henry, the Boston Tea Party, and "pry it from my cold, dead hands" bumper stickers. Europeans think it's barbaric, and have actually criminalized self-defense. But they're the ones having a continent-wide bloodbath every few decades.

Sure, we have some fascist sumbitches who love power more than they love liberty. But we're not fatalistic serfs, and we let them run amok so long as they're not doing us serious harm. C'mon, they're out there taking a principled stand with placards that say "Just Poop." Things have room to get a whole lot worse, at which point Americans have the will and the means to put a stop to it.

It doesn't occur to Europeans to fight back; it doesn't occur to Americans not to. Fundamentally, that's why we'll make it, and Europe won't. Again.

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-28 16:07|| 2007-01-28 16:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Dang, exJAG, after reading that I could actually be optimistic! Thanks.

"Load your own, I do, the initial price is eairly high, but once the various machinery is bought, it"s pennies a round forever after."

I'm starting to seriously consider that, for both .223 Rem (to feed the AR-180B) and .357 Mag (for the Marlin 1894C). My son re-loads, and he keeps saying I should, too.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-28 16:14|| 2007-01-28 16:14|| Front Page Top

#9 See? Guys like you and Redneck Jim cheer me up. That's what I'm talking about. And think of how many millions more of us are out there, willing and able to defend our corner of the country.

"The Muz" (as SpecOp likes to say, LOL) expect to meet the same European weakness and fatalism in America, because all sides make the mistake of lumping us all together as "the West." But there's the West, and then there's the Wild West.

The muz could take Europe tomorrow without a shot fired. The result would be quite different if they tried it in America.

I'm reminded of a Swiss general, whose unit was doing joint training with a German unit. He and the German general were comparing notes, in particular the Swiss emphasis on marksmanship.

Later, the German says, "my army is twice the size of yours. So, hypothetically, if my army were to, say, invade Switzerland, what would yours do?"

The Swiss general shrugs and says, "shoot twice and go home."

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-28 16:34|| 2007-01-28 16:34|| Front Page Top

#10 ""The Muz" (as SpecOp likes to say, LOL) expect to meet the same European weakness and fatalism in America, because all sides make the mistake of lumping us all together as "the West." But there's the West, and then there's the Wild West."

I hear ya. OTOH, we clearly do have a problem in that a sizeable chunk of America very reasonably can be lumped in with the EUnuchs: nearly 50 million Americans voted for Kerry in 2004, and enough voted for the Dhimmicrats last year to hand them both houses of Congress.

Yes, there are many of us who will not give up without a fight to the death; but there are also many who would surrender in a heartbeat-- and seem determined to force the rest of us to surrender along with them.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-28 17:20|| 2007-01-28 17:20|| Front Page Top

#11 every town and community has its' nannys/homeowners association nazis....when the time comes, they go, DD.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-01-28 18:13|| 2007-01-28 18:13|| Front Page Top

#12 I was getting bummed out earlier today contemplating the euro-sclerotic idiocies we are about the undertake--like a 40% hike in the minimum wage and imposing carbon caps. Feeling much more cheerful now. Thanks crew.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2007-01-28 18:27|| 2007-01-28 18:27|| Front Page Top

#13 OTOH, we clearly do have a problem in that a sizeable chunk of America very reasonably can be lumped in with the EUnuchs: nearly 50 million Americans voted for Kerry in 2004, and enough voted for the Dhimmicrats last year to hand them both houses of Congress.

True. But not every Kerry/Dem voter is a dhimmi. The US has its own propaganda machine, so many of these voters are likely just ignorant, too busy being productive workers and parents to hang out at Rantburg U.

For example, my mother. Daughter of an immigrant WWII vet, nurse, high IQ, took sandwiches to the cops during the the 1968 Dem Convention melee in Chicago. Enthusiastic but ill-informed flower-power Dem voter until 2000, when I gave her a copy of Dereliction of Duty. After devouring it in two days, she asked me how to find the nearest RNC office to volunteer for Bush's campaign. She felt betrayed; now Dhims make her puke. She used to love Hillary. Now that she knows how much Hillary hates soldiers, she hopes someone will assassinate her.

How many other well-intentioned Anericans like this are out there, ready to wake up if only they realized they're asleep? Tens of thousands, maybe millions. The true loony-left minority may be vocal, but small. In contrast to Europe, we still have a democracy, and still have the power to change minds.

One more thing I meant to mention: Flight 93. As a thought exercise, imagine the jihadiots had hijacked a plane full of Europeans, conditioned into passivity by a lifetime of dependence on and obedience to the state. Would they have showed the same tenacity, initiative, and courage to save the EU Parliament building in Strasbourg? Ask yourself that anytime you're feeling dejected about the US.

Posted by exJAG 2007-01-28 19:30|| 2007-01-28 19:30|| Front Page Top

#14

Jens Orback, former Democracy Minister in the Social Democratic Swedish government, said during a radio debate that: We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.

NO, they WON'T, dipshit.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-01-28 19:36|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2007-01-28 19:36|| Front Page Top

#15 "She felt betrayed; now Dhims make her puke. She used to love Hillary. Now that she knows how much Hillary hates soldiers, she hopes someone will assassinate her."

Good work. Could I maybe hire you to work my brother over and turn him into something other than a raving LLL moonbat? I've written him off as incorrigible...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2007-01-28 19:42|| 2007-01-28 19:42|| Front Page Top

#16 The dangers of radical Islam has been underestimated by too many. We in the West are in as perilous a position as we have ever been.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-01-28 22:01|| 2007-01-28 22:01|| Front Page Top

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