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2005-01-28 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-28 1:25:28 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11140 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Article: Saar said he volunteered to go to Guantanamo because "I really believed in the mission," but then he became disillusioned during his six months at the prison. After leaving the Army with more than four years service, Saar worked as a contractor briefly for the FBI.

Disillusioned? I don't think so. The guy can't seem to stay put. My feeling is that he was trolling around for material to write a book. Unfortunately, these are the scum that slip through when you have to fill important slots without a national mobilization. (Not that I'm particularly fond of a universal draft, but I would have gone).

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-28 9:42:29 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 9:42:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 maybe we should just cut them up into pieces. The left didn't seem to be as bothered by that.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-28 9:55:14 AM|| 2005-01-28 9:55:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 If true, it sounds like the folks down at gitmo have pulled out the infamous marv albert playbook and are going to work. Damn, you'd pay good money for this type of shit back in the states, um, or so I've heard.

Gotta love the islamo-nutty male complex - what a bunch of brain washed malcontents, menstrating women will send you to hell, bwhahaha......

"Why was it necessary for him to write this book?"

-money, money, money.

Posted by Jarhead 2005-01-28 10:25:25 AM|| 2005-01-28 10:25:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 My reaction BFD.
The fruitbats and other will go nutty over this.

It's not abuse and it's not torture.
It's just using methods that might work with these islamo nut jobs.

Convince them they are going to hell unless they talk. It works for me.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-28 10:59:04 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-01-28 10:59:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Sounds like some kids grew up watching late-night Cinemax.

Posted by eLarson 2005-01-28 11:07:01 AM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 11:07:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Sounds like some kids grew up watching late-night Cinemax.

Posted by eLarson 2005-01-28 11:09:35 AM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 11:09:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! Yucky Infidel Girls!!!

Posted by Achmed Mamoud Muhammad 2005-01-28 11:30:27 AM|| 2005-01-28 11:30:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Have you seen some women in miniskirts and thong underwear? It really could be called cruel and unusual punishment. Of course, to be entirely objective, I would have to see the actual situation, repeatedly, to be certain.

As I've said before in other places, the FBI has turned in to a bunch of small female cats.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2005-01-28 11:36:32 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-01-28 11:36:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Icky... but... ummm, creative. It certainly hits the devout Muslim right in the ol' vulnerabilities. The object of the interrogation game is to make 'em sing like a demented canary.
Now we have an idea about why some of the ones who were released from Guantanamo were telling wild tales about hookers, though.

Posted by Sgt. Mom 2005-01-28 12:27:09 PM|| [http://www.sgtstryker.com] 2005-01-28 12:27:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Might another reason that it might not have worked well is the women are to fugly? If you put a miniskirt and thong underwear on a dog it's still a dog.

Using their crappy Moon Cult against them is fine by be. I don't see that violating any major human rights protocol.

TGA could let us know it this is Ok. He has after all been on the wrong end of real torture IRC.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-01-28 12:47:03 PM|| 2005-01-28 12:47:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Send me, send me....I could use a good interrogator lickin'

Posted by Duke Nukem 2005-01-28 12:59:49 PM|| 2005-01-28 12:59:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Madam interrogator...faster, harder please...

Posted by Duke Nukem 2005-01-28 1:04:19 PM|| 2005-01-28 1:04:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The media left is going to have a field day on this one and Bill O Reilly and Rantburgers like myself will support any way to get these Wads to talk. Same ole shit, different day.

Posted by tex 2005-01-28 1:41:29 PM|| 2005-01-28 1:41:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 These are glamorized (sexed up) stories that play on all the prejudices and stereotypes put forth on TV. Yes Muslim men consider sub human and not even close to their equal. But few of them are threatened by big boobs and a mini skirt. Also I sincerely doubt that four men who grew up in Britain hadnât see at least one booby, miniskirt, or touched an infidel female. I got the impression from the review that this soldier was retelling stories and never personally witnessed the mini-skirt interview or the menstrual blood (ink) âtortureâ episodes. I bet the talk on the âArab Streetâ is that if some infidel woman with big boobs and a mini skirt they would be too preoccupied with the erection and not much else. If this crap was really true all we would have to do is airdrop stained female underwear over the insurgents and they would flee in horror. Anyone want guess if that tactic would work?

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-01-28 1:42:20 PM|| 2005-01-28 1:42:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 How can this guy say it's not a religious war, when he describes how the detainees are acting in captivity? (The praying, having to be clean before God.....) Just because you don't think you're fighting against an infidel, that doesn't mean they don't feel that way.

Somehow I don't think they would show us any sensitivity to our religious beliefs (or lack thereof for some of us) if we were captured.

If they freak out this much over being around chicks, maybe we should send more of 'em? Old, ugly, cute, it doesn't matter if you've been locked in a madrassa all day for years....

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-01-28 1:53:08 PM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/] 2005-01-28 1:53:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I suspect this is the classic honey trap - get 'em to talk by offering incentives like hookers. None of these guys are fazed by prostitutes - Muslim men are some of horniest people around. For Muslims, using infidel hookers isn't particularly unusual - it's only haram to mess around with Muslim women. The 9/11 hijackers spent a fair amount of time around Florida's fleshpots, including strip clubs. I wouldn't be surprised if, in addition to lap dances, they paid for extra services.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-28 1:53:56 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 1:53:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 My point is that if the honey trap - which was used by both sides against the opposition's personnel (for blackmail purposes) during the Cold War - was acceptable, using it against captured terrorists doesn't exactly worry me.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-28 1:58:00 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 1:58:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 DB: If they freak out this much over being around chicks, maybe we should send more of 'em? Old, ugly, cute, it doesn't matter if you've been locked in a madrassa all day for years....

They're not freaking out - this is just a front that serves 3 purposes: (1) get monetary compensation, (2) remove another interrogation tool from our arsenal, (3) obtain sympathy for the Islamist cause, (4) divert attention from the fact that they are terrorists.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-28 2:00:53 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 2:00:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 ZF - All valid points, and ones that I hadn't considered.
But I still think that the fact a mere woman has power over them is something very unsettling to these nuts, and something that we should exploit. They are used to having women be subservient and only good for one thing. To have a woman have that much control over them has got to be extremely disconcerting. Otherwise, why would they be making such a big deal over it?

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-01-28 2:20:53 PM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/] 2005-01-28 2:20:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 DB: Otherwise, why would they be making such a big deal over it?

Re-read the four points I outlined above. The other likelihood is this - they don't have anything else to complain about. Some of them had pre-existing medical conditions fixed. Many gained weight from the improved diet. My feeling is that these are the only things that are true, so they are twisting these events into some kind of strange psychodrama.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-01-28 3:21:16 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-01-28 3:21:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 BFD is right. A lot of people pay good money for that kind of treatment in Hollywood!

Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2005-01-28 4:32:51 PM|| 2005-01-28 4:32:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm still of the opinion that dead Jihadi's be ground up and fed to pigs. I don't think you get to go to paradise if you're turned into pig dung. Make the prisoners watch the progress and keep the pigs near them. Make them listen to the sound of dead Jihadi's being turned into gruel.

Posted by Silentbrick 2005-01-28 6:00:53 PM|| 2005-01-28 6:00:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Will this book have photographs?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-28 6:05:38 PM|| 2005-01-28 6:05:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Just keep Madonna's coffee-table book alongside.

Posted by Pappy 2005-01-28 6:53:42 PM|| 2005-01-28 6:53:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 goddamit ima haten there no pichures.

Posted by muck4doo 2005-01-28 8:13:24 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/] 2005-01-28 8:13:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 *IF* this guys claims are true -- and I haven't heard any confirmation of it -- then this confirms a few jihadi whines.

It's still not torture, or even "abuse". It's putting pressure on them, in a way they're particularly susceptible.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-01-28 10:19:19 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-01-28 10:19:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 So when is Captain Kirk going to be relieved of command and prosocuted for using tribbles to interrogate Klingons?

Posted by SC88 2005-01-28 10:25:09 PM|| 2005-01-28 10:25:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#28
Interrogators shouldn't use stupid gimmicks. People who use stupid gimmicks in any line of work will usually look stupid when the gimmicks are exposed.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-01-28 11:44:46 PM|| 2005-01-28 11:44:46 PM|| Front Page Top

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