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Philippines captures bomber behind attack on US troops

2014-06-03

Philippine security forces have captured a Filipino militant believed to be behind the deadly bombing that killed two U.S. servicemen in the southern province of Sulu five years ago. Miraji Bairullah was captured in the town of Indanan after soldiers and policemen tracked him down in his hideout a tipoff, according to reports. No security officials wanted to give a statement about the capture of Bairullah, who is currently being interrogated by authorities in an undisclosed location. Bairullah, a member of the Moro National Liberation Front (MILF), has been long wanted both by the Philippines and the U.S. for the bombing that killed SSG Jack Martin and SFC Christopher Shaw, and a Filipino soldier on September 29, 2009. The U.S. soldiers were on their way to inspect a school project with Filipino troops when their vehicle went over a landmine.

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Zamboanga City on alert for insurgents

2009-10-05

Authorities are on heightened alert in Zamboanga City following the fighting between troops and rebels in Sulu province. Zamboanga City, which had been previously bombed by Abu Sayyaf, is currently celebrating the weeklong Hermosa Festival in honor of the Virgin Mary locally known as “Our Lady of the Pilar,” its patron saint. A regional military commander, Marine Maj. Gen. Benjamin Dolorfino, said they would launch Monday a new “hotline” that would allow citizens to send text messages from their cell phones or inform authorities about suspicious persons or information that could prevent terrorism. “We are going to launch this on Monday so citizens can easily and quickly provide information through SMS [short message system] from their cell phones,” Dolorfino said. Besides the new hotline number, police also have telephone numbers 166 and 117 posted in many areas in Zamboanga City where citizens can call at anytime in case of an emergency similar to 911 in the United States. Government forces are battling Moro rebels since last month in the province and had already killed at least 45 gunmen and soldiers, including two members of the US Special Forces. The Bangsamoro National Liberation Army (BNLA) warned of more attacks against the military and civilian targets in the Philippines in retaliation to the continued government offensive against rebels in Sulu. The shadowy group, an ally of the Moro National Liberation Front, has claimed responsibility for the September 29 roadside bombing in Sulu that killed US soldiers Sergeant First Class Christopher Shaw and Staff Sergeant Jack Martin 3rd. Madarang Sali, BNLA deputy supreme commander, rebel forces have declared a holy war against the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine government. He said the BNLA is headed by Lt. Gen. Abdulnasser Iskandar, while the Moro National Liberation Front are under the command of Ustadz Habier Malik, Khaid Ajibun and Tahil Usman. Sali said only 10 MNLF rebels were killed in the fighting—seven under Malik and three more under the command of Ajibun. Dolorfino said troops were tracking down at least four most senior Abu Sayyaf leaders—Dr Abu, Albader Parad, Isnilon Hapilon and Yasser Igasan—including two foreign Jemaah Islamiah terrorists Mauiya and Quayem and some 200 followers.

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Atlanta terror trial verdict: Guilty

2009-06-12

Moments after his son was convicted Wednesday of a terrorism conspiracy, Syed Riaz Ahmed said the young man never harmed anyone and committed nothing more than thought crimes. “You think something and you’re guilty of something,” said Ahmed, somber and weary as he stood outside a federal courtroom. “He’s not guilty of any crimes in the eyes of Allah. He’s guilty of U.S. laws.” During a brief hearing, U.S. District Judge Bill Duffey pronounced Syed Haris Ahmed, a former Georgia Tech student, guilty of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists here and overseas. He will be sentenced later this year. U.S. Attorney David Nahmias said Ahmed’s case did not involve an imminent threat, “because in the post-9/11 world we will not wait to disrupt terrorism-related activity until a bomb is built and ready to explode.” “The fuse that leads to an explosion of violence may be long, but once it is lit —- once individuals unlawfully agree to support terrorist acts at home or abroad —- we will prosecute them to snuff that fuse out,” Nahmias said. The investigation was connected to the convictions of multiple terrorists around the world, “all before any innocent people were killed,” he said. Ahmed, 24, once a Centennial High student who earned a Georgia Tech scholarship to study mechanical engineering, embarked on a spiritual plunge journey during his college years to learn more about Islam. Upset by how fellow Muslims were being treated across the world, Ahmed turned to the Internet and became besotted with jihadist Web sites espousing violent, radical views. At his trial last week, prosecutors introduced into evidence e-mails and Internet chats in which Ahmed said he wanted to engage in violent jihad. The trial culminated in Ahmed’s refusal to allow his lawyer to deliver a closing argument. Instead, Ahmed waived a jury trial so he could use the allotted 45 minutes for closings to deliver what he said was the message of Islam. Ahmed quoted nine passages from the Quran in Arabic while giving his statement to Duffey, who presided as judge and jury. He said he hoped that by delivering “the message that has been revealed by Allah the promise of protection from evil will also apply to me.” Ahmed also admitted to the court he had been “misguided.” Prosecutors said Ahmed began plotting acts of terror in early 2005, when he and his alleged co-conspirator, Ehsanul Islam Sadequee of Roswell, met with suspected terrorists in Toronto. The men talked big, discussing attacks on military bases and oil refineries, even using lasers to disable the GPS satellite system. A month later, Ahmed and Sadequee drove to Washington and took 62 amateurish “casing videos” of area landmarks, such as the Capitol and World Bank. Some of the recordings were later found on the computers of two men now convicted of terrorism crimes in Great Britain. Prosecutors said Ahmed and Sadequee took the videos to earn the respect of terrorists overseas by proving they could take risks and showing how close they could get to potential targets. Defense attorney Jack Martin countered that Ahmed was an immature college student who had “momentary ideas, childish fantasies” that were never carried out. After Wednesday’s verdict, Martin said, “Perhaps this case all along was about what is the appropriate sentence.” The slight, bearded defendant, who was wearing a white skull cap, showed little emotion and said nothing as Duffey handed down the guilty verdict. He smiled and waved to his father and two of his sisters seated behind him in court as he returned to the defense table. Ahmed will be sentenced after Sadequee’s trial, which is to begin Aug. 3. He faces up to 15 years in federal prison. Outside the courtroom, Ahmed’s 27-year-old sister, Mariam Ahmed, said her younger brother has memorized the Quran and read prodigiously since his arrest. For more than three years, she noted, Ahmed has awaited trial in solitary confinement at the federal penitentiary. “To me, he’s suffered enough already, because he didn’t deserve this,” said Ahmed’s sister, who came from her home in Pakistan to attend the trial. “He’s now a better person. He has his peace of mind.” And now we have ours.

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Atlanta terror suspect says he was 'misguided'

2009-06-05

An Atlanta terrorism defendant used his closing argument Thursday to recite from the Quran in Arabic and tell a federal judge that using U.S. laws to defend himself would put him in rebellion against God. Syed Haris Ahmed said he hoped that by delivering the message of Islam, "the promise of protection from evil will also apply to me." But Ahmed, 24, tacitly acknowledged he faced a likely guilty verdict. Only once during his rambling address did Ahmed appear to offer an explanation to the charges against him. "I was misguided," he said. The former Georgia Tech student is charged with conspiring to support terrorism here and overseas. If convicted, he faces up to 15 years in prison. Ahmed waived a jury trial so he could give his closing argument --- "the message that has been revealed by Allah." During his allotted 45 minutes, he nervously clicked an ink pen, politely asked the court stenographer if he was talking too fast and said the people of Georgia had not harassed him over his religion during the 10 years he has lived here. Ahmed told U.S. District Judge Bill Duffey that the Quran is more authoritative than the Bible and that "Muslims actually are, I believe, closer followers of Jesus than Christians." Duffey, presiding as a jury, listened intently to Ahmed's address. He did not say when he would deliver the verdict. Before adjourning, Duffey called the United States "a remarkable country" because Ahmed was allowed the extraordinary opportunity to make such a statement at his trial. But the judge also sternly reminded Ahmed that he would be deciding the case on U.S. law. "This is not a case about your faith or a case about my faith," Duffey said. "This is about your conduct." Earlier Thursday, Ahmed's lawyer, Jack Martin, told Duffey the government's charge that Ahmed supported terror in the United States was "very, very thin." Martin made the remarks while asking for a directed verdict of acquittal, a common request by defense lawyers at the close of evidence in a trial. Martin said Ahmed was a confused, immature student who had fallen prey to Web sites espousing extreme views. Ahmed never followed through on any plans to wage jihad, Martin said. As Martin argued, Ahmed cut him off in midsentence, standing at the defense table and raising his hand in objection. Ahmed said he was supposed to give the closing argument. After Martin explained he was merely arguing a motion, the two men smiled and shook hands. Duffey denied the motion. Later, assistant U.S. Attorney Robert McBurney asked Duffey to find Ahmed guilty. "This is not about throwing bombs and shooting soldiers," he said. "It's about providing support for those activities." Ahmed formed his conspiracy when he and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee of Roswell, who will be tried later, met with like-minded extremists in Toronto in March 2005 and began planning to go to Pakistan to join a terrorist training camp, McBurney said. A month later, they went to Washington and took 62 "casing videos" of area landmarks. Some of the videos later were found on the computers of men now convicted of terrorism. In July 2005, Ahmed went to Pakistan, where, he later told FBI agents, he intended to join a terrorist training camp. But he returned to college in Atlanta. Still, McBurney said, Ahmed had second thoughts and, in early 2006, planned to return. "He was angry about the war on Islam and was convinced something must be done," McBurney said. Ahmed's answer, the prosecutor said, was "to engage in violent jihad."

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Friend testifies against Georgia Tech 'terrorist'

2009-06-03

A 'supporter' of terrorism on Tuesday testified about his connection to Syed Haris Ahmed, a former Georgia Tech student on trial for similar charges. According to the FBI, Ahmed made a video of the Pentagon and discussed attacks on the United States. Zubair Ahmed, not related to the defendant, entered a guilty plea last January to the charge of providing material support to terrorism. The charge carries a 15-year prison sentence. Zubair, a Chicago resident, said he travelled to Egypt during the summer of 2004 with the intent of eventually entering Iraq or Afghanistan to fight against the United States. Before they could make it out of Egypt, his father found out where he was and brought him home. Zubair said he first met Haris over the Internet. The two often communicated online using code words or in Urdu. FBI Special Agent James Allen testified that coded e-mails spelled out Ahmed's intentions to enter a terrorist training camp during a trip to Pakistan in July 2005. Defence attorney Jack Martin said in Pakistan, Haris's family talked him out of attending a camp. He said there was no established agreement with 'co-conspirators' and that Ahmed's actions were mere "childish fantasies". Haris, 24, and alleged co-conspirator Ehsanul Islam Sadequee are charged with discussing attacks in the United States on targets that include oil refineries and a military base. Prosecutors say they also took videos of landmarks in the Washington DC area. Ahmed has waived his right to a jury trial.

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Terrorism charges against Georgians detailed

2008-12-11

Atlanta terrorism defendants Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee communicated with and gave information to terrorists bent on waging violent jihad, according to new indictments by a federal grand jury. In newly amended indictments against each man, prosecutors added information on the breadth of the defendants’ communications before their arrests two years ago. Both men are charged with conspiring to provide material support to terrorists. That includes their trying, in 2005, to join Lashkar-e-Taiba, the militant group that India blames for the bloody three-day siege of Mumbai last month. Ahmed and Sadequee have pleaded not guilty and will be tried separately. Ahmed’s trial is set for June 1 in federal court in Atlanta. Sadequee is to stand trial next August. They are being held without bond. Ahmed’s lawyer, Jack Martin, said the new indictment does not substantially change the allegations against Ahmed or his defense. “And, once again,” Martin added, “it’s quite clear from the indictment there’s no allegation he committed any terrorist act or act of violence whatsoever.” Don Samuel, a lawyer for Sadequee, said his client will plead not guilty to this indictment as well. “Nobody’s heard our side yet,” he said. “The grand jury hears only the government’s side of the story.” During an April 2005 trip to Washington, Ahmed, a former Georgia Tech student, and Sadequee, of Roswell, recorded amateurish videos of “symbolic and infrastructure targets for potential terrorist attacks,” said the indictment. In one video, Ahmed and Sadequee pass the Pentagon as they drive toward Washington. “This is where our brothers attacked the Pentagon,” Sadequee says on the video, the indictment said. The videos were sent to Aabid Hussein Khan, who is in prison in England for possessing articles for terrorism. According to Tuesday’s indictment, when he was arrested in June 2006, Khan had the videos recorded by Ahmed and Sadequee. Khan also had maps and timetables for the Washington and New York public transit systems; information on truck routes into New York; schematics of the financial district in lower Manhattan; aerial photos of the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; and information on paramilitary training camps in Pakistan, the indictment said. Separately, the new indictment said, between August 2005 and April 2006, Sadequee was in contact with a number of supporters of violent jihad. They included Mirsad Bektasevic, who was arrested in Bosnia Herzegovina in October 2005 after being found with more than 20 pounds of plastic explosives, firearms, bomb-making materials and a manifesto promising an attack on Western interests, the indictment said.

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Terror suspect says FBI spied on his library computer use

2007-10-13

FBI officials followed a terrorism suspect to a public library and when he was done using a computer there violated his privacy by making, without a warrant, records of the Web pages and e-mail addresses that he had accessed, the man's attorney alleged Thursday. Syed Ahmed's attorney, Jack Martin, said in filing in federal court in Atlanta that the March 21, 2006, actions by the FBI at Chestatee Regional Library in Dawsonville amounted to an unconstitutional search. Martin said one of the FBI officials sat down at the computer Ahmed used and, utilizing the history function of the computer, viewed and made a record of the Web pages and e-mail addresses that had been accessed by Ahmed. "The actions of the government agent, contrary to the policies and procedures of the library, including policies to ensure the privacy of its authorized library users, violated the defendant's reasonable expectations of privacy," Martin wrote in his motion. Martin wants the evidence, which he did not detail in his motion, suppressed. There was no immediate ruling by a judge. Ahmed and co-defendant Ehsanul Sadequee, both U.S. citizens, are accused of undergoing training to carry out a "violent jihad" against civilian and government targets, including an air base in suburban Atlanta. Authorities say the men wanted to plan attacks for "defense of Muslims or retaliation for acts committed against Muslims." They have pleaded not guilty to a July 19, 2006, indictment charging them with providing material support to terrorists and related conspiracy counts. No trial date has been set. Ahmed, born in Pakistan, was a Georgia Tech student at the time of his arrest. Sadequee, born in Virginia of Bangladeshi descent, has relatives in the Atlanta area. A spokesman for the FBI, Stephen Emmett, declined to comment on Martin's allegations. But U.S. Attorney David Nahmias said in a statement provided to The Associated Press that "public libraries are not safe havens for terrorist-related activity. The FBI's actions were lawful and appropriate as we will demonstrate when we respond to the motion in court."

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Ex-Ga. Tech student pleads innocent in terror case

2006-07-29

A former Georgia Tech student allegedly involved in planning attacks against U.S. targets, including Marietta's Dobbins Air Reserve Base, pleaded not guilty Thursday to additional federal terrorism charges. Pakistan-born Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, appeared with his attorney Jack Martin before U.S. District Court Judge E. Clayton Scofield III to answer the new charges contained in a recently filed expanded indictment. The U.S. attorney's Atlanta office tacked on three additional counts having to do with conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists and foreign terrorist organizations. It also has added alleged co-conspirator Eshsanul Islam Sadequee, 19, to the indictment. Sadequee is in custody in New York, but is expected to appear in federal court here Aug. 18. Sadequee, who was born in Virginia and is of Bangladeshi descent, was charged in March with making false statements to federal agents after his arrest in Bangladesh. Ahmed originally was indicted in March on one count of providing material support to terrorist. Neither U.S. Attorney David Nahmias nor Martin would comment on the case Thursday. Federal officials accuse Ahmed, a naturalized citizen, and Sadequee of engaging in acts in support of a jihad, or holy war, against the United States. Those acts, they allege, include participating in paramilitary training, sizing up possible targets, communicating with supporters of violent jihad and like-minded extremists, and traveling abroad in support of their plot. Federal authorities, however, say the men had not gotten far enough along in their planning for attacks on U.S. targets, also including oil refineries and the U.S. Capitol, to be an imminent threat.

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Canucks met with US hard boyz to plan attacks

2006-06-05

Seventeen suspected terrorists arrested overnight in Canada may have been on the verge of launching a series of massive bomb attacks in Ontario. And they may have had ties to two Metro-Atlanta men who are already in federal custody suspected of plotting with some of the Canadians to attack targets in the U.S. The FBI believes that in March, 2005, the two Metro Atlanta men, Syed Ahmed and Ehsanul Sadequee, met with some of the suspected terrorists in Canada during seven days of meetings to discuss targets across North America. Ahmed, a Georgia Tech engineering student, admitted it, according to the FBI, when he was arrested in March, 2006. The FBI says that Ahmed admitted taking a Greyhound bus out of Atlanta a year earlier his friend, Sadequee, and they went to Canada and met regularly with at least three, like-minded Islamic extremists to discuss attacking U.S. oil refineries, military bases and other targets in the U.S. So, Canadian authorities moved in Friday night, and stopped, they say, a potentially massive series of bomb attacks. Terror expert Neil Livingstone says the case is a reminder -- that terrorists from all over the world can easily enter the U.S. from Canada. "If this group is out there, there are bound to be others that we haven't uncovered yet that we don't know about,” Livingstone told NBC News, “and they are going to continue to plot and to organize and to acquire explosives. And, ultimately, they are going to cross the border and carry out some sort of attack here." Authorities in the U.S. and Canada believe the suspects made up a terrorist cell that was homegrown, and inspired by Al-Qaeda, but had no direct ties to it. The Associated Press reports that Ahmed’s court-appointed attorney, Jack Martin of Atlanta, said he does not know if there was any connection between Ahmed and the Canadian suspects. Ahmed was arrested in March, 2006, and a federal Grand Jury indicted him in April -— the only international terrorism indictment ever in Georgia. Sadequee was taken into custody in April, 2006.

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FBI sez 2 Georgians plotted terrorist attacks

2006-04-22

A 21-year-old Georgia Tech student and another man traveled to Canada to meet with Islamic extremists to discuss "strategic locations in the United States suitable for a terrorist strike," according to an affidavit made public Friday. Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, both U.S. citizens who grew up in the Atlanta area, met with at least three other targets of ongoing FBI terrorism investigations during a trip to Canada in March 2005, an FBI agent's affidavit said. The affidavit said the men discussed attacks against oil refineries and military bases and planned to travel to Pakistan to get military training at a terrorist camp, which authorities said Ahmed then tried to do. Ahmed, who was indicted on suspicion of giving material support of terrorism, was being held at an undisclosed location. He waived his right to arraignment and pleaded not guilty. Ahmed was arrested March 23 when the indictment was returned under seal. It was unsealed by the court Thursday. The charge carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. Ahmed's court-appointed attorney, Jack Martin, did not return messages seeking comment. Sadequee, 19, who is accused of making materially false statements in connection with an ongoing federal terrorism investigation, was arrested in Bangladesh and was en route to New York City to be arraigned. Several phone messages left with his sister were not immediately returned. "There is no imminent threat," said FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko, a spokesman in Washington. Authorities said the two men spent several days in Canada, where they met with others being investigated by the terrorism task force. Sadequee is accused of lying about the trip when he was interviewed at John F. Kennedy International Airport in August as he was about to leave for Bangladesh. The affidavit said Sadequee had said he traveled alone in January to visit an aunt. When Sadequee's suitcase was searched at JFK, agents found a CD-ROM containing encrypted files that the FBI has been unable to decode and a map of the Washington area hidden in the lining, the affidavit said. One day later, federal agents interviewed Ahmed, who was coming back from a monthlong trip to Pakistan, at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. He said he had gone to Toronto with Sadequee, according to the affidavit. Federal agents found that money for both men's 2005 bus trip from Atlanta to Toronto was withdrawn from Sadequee's account. Last month, Ahmed told agents they had met with extremists and plotted how to disrupt military and commercial communications and traffic by disabling the Global Positioning System, the affidavit said.

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Georgia student charged with supporting terror group

2006-04-21

Hat tip Michelle Malkin. A 21-year-old Georgia Tech student taken into federal custody last month has been charged with giving "material support" to a terrorist organization, according to a federal indictment unsealed Thursday. Georgia Tech student, Joe? Bubba? The student, Syed Haris Ahmed, a mechanical engineering major who had become increasingly religious in his Islamic faith, was arrested March 23 by the FBI. Tap, tap....nope Syed Ahmed, 21, was charged with helping a terrorist group. The FBI believes he attended a training camp in Pakistan last year, sources say. He was in madrassa religious school there, his family says. But we repeat ourselves. "This is the first international terrorism charge ever filed in Georgia," said U.S. Attorney David Nahmias shortly after unsealing the indictment "The charge against Mr. Ahmed is serious and involves national security and will be prosecuted with that in mind." Authorities declined to provide details about the charges but said they had investigated Ahmed for about a year. Jack Martin, Ahmed's court-appointed lawyer, refused to comment on the case. Ahmed's family has rejected the suggestion that the student has been involved in terrorism. "No, no! Certainly not!" On Wednesday, Ahmed appeared before U.S. Magistrate Joel Feldman and pleaded not guilty, prosecutors said Thursday. Ahmed was ordered to be held in custody pending trial. Ahmed was taken into custody, his family said, apparently because authorities suspect a videotape he made of a building may have been related to terrorism. Casing the joint, was he? Ahmed's family immigrated from Pakistan in 1997 and are now U.S. citizens living in Dawsonville. Family members said agents confiscated computer hard drives and data CDs from their home last month. Ahmed told his family that authorities found a video on the Internet and apparently traced it to him. The video was of a building and was perhaps made during a trip with friends. Ahmed's family members said they did not know the location of the building or when the tape was made. Second man arrested In a separate case that may be related, a 19-year-old Roswell man was arrested Monday in Bangladesh. Ehsanul Islam Sadequee was arrested by Bengali authorities after at least eight months of federal investigation of him and his family, his sister, Sharmin Sadequee, said Thursday. Federal authorities would not confirm the arrest. Authorities also refused to confirm Ahmed's arrest before Thursday. Sharmin Sadequee said the family had immigrated from Bangladesh and lived in Atlanta since 1988. Ehsanul Sadequee was born in Fairfax, Va., and is a U.S. citizen, although he was home schooled and attended a British school in Bangladesh from 2001 to 2004. A British boarding school in Bangladesh? Federal authorities would not say what charges Ehsanul Sadequee faces or even confirm he is in custody. Sharmin Sadequee said her brother was briefly detained last August at Kennedy International Airport in New York when he was flying to Bangladesh to get married. Sharmin Sadequee said her family has been interviewed by authorities several times since. Sadequee, who spoke to the newspaper from her home in Michigan, said her family received a call in mid-March from a young man saying he was an acquaintance of her brother and that he had been questioned four times by the FBI about him. Sharmin Sadequee knew the man only by his nickname and had met him at Al-Farooq Masjid, the mosque just north of Georgia Tech. She said the man she met resembled Syed Haris Ahmed, the Georgia Tech student, after seeing his photo on The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Web site. There's a pretty good connection. Sadequee called the man this week after her brother was arrested. His cellphone had been disconnected. Sadequee said one of the family encounters with authorities was in December when U.S. immigration agents arrested her mother at the family home in Roswell on immigration violation charges. Her mother was released and the case is ongoing, Sadequee said. Momma just overstayed her visa or is she part of the gunpowder plot? Sadequee also said FBI agents came to the Roswell home in September, saying they were investigating the bankruptcy of a travel agency where their older brother, Amimul Sadequee, had purchased a ticket. "Then they asked how many computers do you have and does your son [Amimul] have a laptop?" said Sharmin Sadequee, who was reviewing notes the family had accumulated about the visits. "We wondered why they are asking about computers when they were investigating a ticket and a bankruptcy?" CNN reported Thursday that Ehsanul Sadequee had been handed over to the FBI and placed on a plane to New York, where he is expected to face charges in U.S. District Court.

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