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Fifth Column
Iraq War Veteran Injured at OWS Oakland Founder of IHateTheMarineCorps.com
2011-10-28
Scott Olsen is the Marine Corps veteran critically injured at Occupy Oakland Tuesday night, during a confrontation between the protesters and the police. The latest news is good: his condition has been upgraded from critical to fair and he is apparently conscious and able to respond to doctors and family members. I sincerely wish him a full recovery, and I also hope that a proper investigation is conducted to determine whether police misconduct is responsible for his injuries.

But I ran across something this evening that may add a new dimension to this story. It has been widely reported that Olsen is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War. But apparently his opposition to the U.S. military and the Marine Corps in which he served runs a little deeper.

The site is no longer live, but Olsen was the founder of IHateTheMarineCorps.com, a private user forum apparently dedicated to bashing the Marine Corps.

A Scott Olsen is listed as the registered owner of this domain, and I was able to confirm that this is indeed the same Scott Olsen based on a user profile on the fundraising site pledgie.com.
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Fifth Column
Anti-Iraq War Protester, Now Running For Congress, Claims Honorable, Not General Discharge
2010-03-08
An Iraq war veteran will be kicked out of the Marines days early with a general discharge after he wore his uniform during an anti-war demonstration, the military announced Wednesday.

The military said Lt. Gen. John W. Bergman, commanding general of Marine Forces Reserve in New Orleans, agreed Monday to give Marine Cpl. Adam Kokesh a general discharge, based on the recommendation of a panel that met last week at the Marine Corps Mobilization Command in Kansas City. A general discharge is one notch short of honorable.

Kokesh got in trouble after The Washington Post published a photograph of him in March roaming the nation's capital with other veterans on a mock patrol. A superior officer e-mailed Kokesh, saying he was being investigated because he might have violated a rule prohibiting troops from wearing uniforms at protests. The demonstration marking the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq was aimed at bringing the experience of the war home to Americans.

Kokesh, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, responded to the superior with an obscenity, prompting the Marines to take steps to remove him with an "other than honorable" discharge.
This is an older news story, as I am not posting the link to his campaign in New Mexico for congress, as he does not deserve hits on his page. However, on it he claims an Honorable discharge.
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Home Front: Culture Wars
Religious "Truth" Commission to Examine U.S. War "Atrocities"
2010-02-08
In a 40 year flashback to the glories of 1960's anti-war outrage, infamously left-wing Riverside Church in New York City is hosting a "Truth Commission on Conscience in War" next month. This special hearing, in the spirit of "truth commissions," will evidently "explore and investigate systemic injustices, political violence, and mass atrocities" by the U.S., presumably in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It will "receive testimony, process their findings, and recommend strategies for change, healing, and reconciliation," while lifting "up the silenced and invisible voices of victims, offering survivors a public forum to testify to their experiences."

The "commissioners" of this "truth commission" includes a who's who of far-left religious activism. The testifiers are mostly a small circle of embittered veterans and conspiracy theorists, including former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, who's still pondering possible U.S. involvement in contriving 9-11.

So the March 21-22 spectacle at dramatically gothic Riverside Church on New York's upper West Side will be an absurd theater of macabre conspiracy speculations, sanctimonious guilt trips about supposed U.S. crimes, and indignant condemnations of everyone not on the far-left who has failed to advocate full surrender to jihadist Islam. In short, it might be wonderful entertainment, if not treated too seriously. The ghost of the late William Sloane Coffin, former Riverside pastor, may even haunt the commission's somber hearing, ghoulishly chanting old protest slogans from the Vietnam War era.
Coffin Still In Coffin: Film at eleven...
Among the testifiers will be Iraq War Veteran Logan Latuiri, who evidently left the military when he was not permitted to redeploy to Iraq without a gun. Recently active with Christian Peacemaking Teams [in Israel and "Palestine"] and his own anti-war group, Centurion's Guild, Latuiri announced on Jim Wallis' Sojourners blog that he is "overjoyed" to join in the Riverside Church "truth commission" extravaganza. The former soldier pronounced himself a "strict pacifist" and opined hopefully that the Riverside hearing will "build bridges" between pacifism and Just War believers.

Given the locale and organizers, the "truth commission" is far likelier to become a Stalinist-style denunciation of and trial without jury of America's supposed crimes against humanity. The project director oddly is radical feminist theologian Rita Nakashima Brock, who is more experienced in challenging the patriarchy and heterosexism than in exposing American militarism. Other commissioners include Princeton University's George Hunsinger of the National Religious Campaign Against Torture [by the U.S.], former Riverside Church pastor James Forbes, former Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) President Richard Hamm, left-wing Rabbi Arthur Waskow of The Shalom Center, United Methodism's Drew University Theological School President Maxine Beach, and New York's Union Seminary President Serene Jones.

Sponsors of the hearing include the Catholic Peace Fellowship, Yale Divinity School, Iraq Veterans Against the War, the United Church of Christ's Justice & Witness Ministries, the Mennonite Central Committee,
Mennonites? Oh dear.
the Presbyterian Peace Fellowship and the World Christian Student Federation, among many others. The nearly same caste could easily have been assembled 25 years ago for a church rally in Manhattan for Sandinista chief Daniel Ortega. Perhaps the causes change slightly with time, but the groups remain largely the same, seamlessly moving from one bash America cause to the next.

Defending the Riverside Church hearing over which she will preside, Rita Nakashima Brock recently denounced President Obama's surge in Afghanistan as the "strongest evidence of his failure both as Commander-in-Chief and as a peacemaker." After all, Afghanistan is just "another quagmire like Vietnam," an equally "endless, poorly planned, losing war begun by one president and continued by his successors." But Religious Left activists like Brock, who portray all of Western Civilization as a dark and patriarchal, oppressive manacle on suffering humanity, cannot imagine any war in defense of America with moral merit.

Supposedly the Riverside hearing, as Brock described it in an op-ed, will thoughtfully articulate how individual military personnel should, as a religious freedom, have the "right to object to a particular war." After all, they " undertake tremendous risks and hardship to protect the nation," should not have to "sacrifice their consciences to serve," and instead should be able to "continue serving, in good conscience, the country they love." Those careful words sound nice. But in actuality, Brock and most of the others would like an emasculated military full of Christian Peacemaking Team activists, never willing to carry arms, but more than willing to perform as pacifist neutralists who obstruct all "violence."

In his Sojourners blog, Logan Laituri gave a foretaste about the "truth commission's" bent by bemoaning how in "our representative form of government, it is hard to escape even a fraction of complicity for the damage we are causing across the world." Indeed, he knows that the "military as it exists today is a system that makes it difficult to do good and very easy to do evil." Evidently, the guilt-laden spectacle next month at Riverside Church will help to ease his conscience about serving in Iraq. Even more importantly, it will help Religious left activists like Rita Brock smugly feign moral superiority not only over military personnel but most Americans, including most Christians, who are not intrinsically ashamed of their country.
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Home Front: Politix
A shoe farewell for Bush
2009-01-20
Another scoop for PressTV Iran...
President Bush's last day in office faced with anti-war protesters, hurling shoes outside the gates of the White House to express their anger.

The event was sponsored by the Washington Peace Center, the local chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War and other groups.
About 500 people marched to the White House on Monday and threw about 40 pairs of shoes at the gate. Supporters said that they were acting in solidarity with Muntadhar al-Zeidi, the Iraqi reporter who threw his shoes at Bush during a news conference in Baghdad in December.

The event was sponsored by the Washington Peace Center, the local chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War and other groups, AP reported.
Peace through violence ...
Organizer Jamilla El-Shafei said the event allowed protesters to express their anger over Bush, who she said is 'leaving with no accountability for eviscerating our constitution'.

In the latest poll conducted by New York Times/CBS News poll last week, 73% of Americans disapproved of President George W. Bush's conduct. Only 22% of the surveyed individuals approved of his 8-year performance in the White House.

The most unpopular president in US history, whose term ends on January 20, will leave behind a legacy of two costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and a financial crisis for his successor Barack Obama.
We'll check the polls again in four years ...
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Fifth Column
Surprise! - MSM publishes false Headline
2008-08-28
This is the Headline:
PARADE OF 4,000 Iraq war veterans protest at convention
This is the story:
About 50 Iraq war veterans led a parade of thousands of demonstrators Wednesday afternoon in a boisterous march that was Denver's largest protest so far this week.

The Iraq Veterans Against the War group led the four-mile procession from the Denver Coliseum to the Pepsi Center, site of the Democratic National Convention, calling for Barack Obama to end U.S. involvement in Iraq and improve health care for veterans. As many as 4,000 protesters took part, according to a police estimate.

The 50 veterans who led the demonstration included some in full military dress. As they marched along an industrial area far from downtown, they chanted, "My buddy's in the foxhole with a bullet in his head. . . . I called to get the medic, but he's already dead."
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Fifth Column
Rent-A-Mob march enters downtown Denver
2008-08-27
DENVER - Thousands of people, led by members of the Iraq Veterans Against the War, streamed from the Denver Coliseum on Wednesday in an anti-war protest march to the Pepsi Center, where the Democratic National Convention is being staged. A sit-in was planned at the convention site.

Iraq Veterans Against the War wants Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to agree to an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq. They also want full health care benefits for returning troops and veterans, and reparations to the Iraqi people for damage caused by the war. The group sent a letter to Obama on Monday.

The protest march began after a reunited Rage Against the Machine ended a concert that drew an estimated 9,000 people to the coliseum. Dozens of veterans, some in uniform, began the march in formation, chanting "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon." It is about 4 miles from the coliseum to the Pepsi Center.

People on motorcycles and bicycles joined those on foot. Some people held signs that said "US out of Iraq" with red handprints and "No War on Iran." A few had the numbers of lawyers written on their bodies in case they were arrested. Behind the veterans, protesters yelled: "Troops out now!"

Jan Critchfield, 24, of Seattle said he served in Iraq in 2004, and after returning home, came to believe that the war was an "unlawful, immoral occupation."

He said now that he's back in the U.S., he thinks about what it's like for Iraqis living with U.S. forces in their country. "I just can't imagine driving through my neighborhood at home and seeing a security checkpoint."

Critchfield said he joined the Army at 17 without much thought about the implications.

Protest organizers repeatedly urged the crowd to stay peaceful. Anyone willing to be arrested at the Pepsi Center sit-in was directed to find a place near the front of the march line. Protesters were told by organizers not to react to the police presence or risk getting hit with pepper spray.

Critchfield said the veterans' group is committed to being nonviolent, but they'll be arrested if they have to.

With temperatures in the 80s, at least one business along the march route was selling juice, and several people could be seen stepping out of line to get one of the drinks before rejoining the crowd.

About 8,000 free tickets were handed out by lottery for the concert, sponsored by Tent State University and Iraq Veterans Against the War.

Rage Against the Machine also plans a concert Sept. 3 in Minneapolis during the Republican National Convention, which takes place just across the Mississippi River in St. Paul.
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Fifth Column
Winter Soldiers 2.2 - The Northwest
2008-06-02
One former soldier recounted an interrogation of an Iraqi by his fellow combatants so brutal he likened it to "a frat house gang rape."

Another was still troubled not by his close brushes with death, but by the times he nearly shot innocent Iraqi civilians.

And a third was exasperated and puzzled by being asked to fulfill what he called "ridiculous" orders to harass Iraqi residents and was discouraged from helping those in distress.

He called the war "immoral and absurd."

All came together Saturday afternoon at Seattle's Town Hall to share their troubling and sometimes graphic war stories in the hopes that they will inspire and motivate a largely silent public to call for an end to the military occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

In a counterpoint to calls to continue the occupation, nearly a dozen U.S. soldiers, a military wife, the mother of a soldier and a doctor treating veterans with psychiatric problems told their anti-war stories to a respectful audience that filled the hall.

Former Army Sgt. Joshua Simpson served in Mosul with an intelligence team trying to get information about insurgent forces attacking Americans.

"Ninety-five percent of the people we arrested had nothing to do with the insurgency, but we were still told to interrogate them," Simpson told the crowd.

He'd scream and yell at the prisoners, sometimes reducing them to tears or self-abuse such as hitting their heads repeatedly against the wall. He saw prisoners horribly bruised and bloodied by Iraqi interrogators. He wants the war to end.

"We need to support the troops who refuse to fight," Simpson said.

The event was organized by the nonprofit Iraq Veterans Against the War, which is working for an immediate end to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, the payment of reparations to the Iraqi and Afghan people for harm caused in the wars, and full funding for the Veterans Health Administration to better provide medical care for returning veterans.

There didn't appear to be any counterprotesters at Saturday's Town Hall event, which was called Northwest Winter Soldier. It was modeled on the first Winter Soldier protest held in 1971 in opposition to the Vietnam War and also organized by veterans.

After the speakers finished, a march was scheduled through downtown.

The soldiers called on U.S. lawmakers to cut funding and force the Bush administration to stop what they saw as an unjust, unwarranted war.

"The longer we're over there," said Joshua Farris, a former Army specialist in Iraq, "the more it will inflame the violence when we leave."

Many said they went to Iraq hoping to help civilians, but found that often wasn't the case. U.S. troops frequently referred to all Iraqis and Middle Easterners as "hajji," an ethnic slur. In medical units, they became "range balls," meaning they were like the golf balls hit on driving ranges that are of low value and that you don't mind losing.

The veterans called for better medical support for returning soldiers, saying they'd see friends suffering from untreated post-traumatic stress, leading to suicide, domestic violence and divorce.

"Where is our government when they need them the most?" asked Tracy Malzan, who spoke along with her husband, Seth, who served as an Army sergeant. "We must talk about these issues every day ... until every service member comes home."
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Fifth Column
Tales of Winter Soldier II
2008-03-17
There's good, live coverage at This Ain't Hell He has a wrap up post and scroll down for the speaker by speaker summaries.

The best part is at the end of this report!


The Iraq Veterans Against the War held their Winter Soldier II event this weekend at the National Labor College. The implied intent of this event was to give testimony to a myriad of claimed atrocities committed by the US military in Iraq. Not surprisingly, it fell far short of its intent. For lefties expecting proof of the dishonor and heinous behavior of the US military, surely Monday morning recaps will bring little more than disappointment and frustration. For those who feared the smearing of our military a la John Kerry and the original Winter Soldiers, solace can be found.

After four days of “testimony” and countless hours of public therapy sessions for these pathetic malcontents, WSII was light on everything except self-indulgent pontificating and nauseating self-loathing by the IVAW members.

For the privilege of live blogging the festivities, the Sniper bloggers were subjected to as many as 6 security guards at a time, received escorted trips to the bathroom and were threatened with ejection from the event for daring to cover it from the vantage point of full disclosure.


My conclusions after hearing and reading hours upon hours of the testimony? War is hell. Bad things happen. People get hurt. Sometimes innocents get caught in the fire. As to the specifics that IVAW members alleged, perhaps a few things were questionable and they should certainly be investigated. The rest of the antidotal stories confirmed nothing more except that in war, unfortunate things happen. This was a collection of war stories not the exposure of war crimes.

Additional time was spent on the left’s obvious and expected platitudes…no blood for oil, Halliburton and Blackwater are evil capitalists, etc., nothing you wouldn’t expect to hear at a Code Pink den meeting.

Of the few things that shocked me? One IVAW spent 20 minutes discussing the mind numbing lead up to the stunning conclusion that he ALMOST killed an 80-year-old Iraqi woman. Another stunner came with the announcement that, hold on to your hats here, the US military uses bullets! I, for one, was shocked. All of this time I was under the impression that we were shooting bubblegum and rainbows.

Winter Soldiers II is an example of much ado about nothing. No wonder the mainstream press, for the most part, steered clear. Perhaps the preemptive work of groups like Gathering of Eagles, Move America Forward and Vets For Freedom, who made it clear to all involved that our men and women in uniform today would not have to wait a lifetime to have their reputations and honor protected from liars and charlatins, kept them from vomiting the bile that the VVAW felt so embolden to do in 1971.

In the weeks leading up to WSII, two IVAW members, Jonathan DeWald, and Evan M. Knappenberger, were removed and suspended respectively from IVAW by IVAW leadership for their violent, sick and troublesome threats to the folks at The Sniper, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter. We’ll see if this severing lasts beyond, say, next week once the bright lights of the spotlight dim. In 1971, John Kerry would have likely bought these two chaps a round at Ted Kennedy’s favorite bar rather than ask that they to shut it for a few days.

Scott Swett, webmaster at WinterSoldiers.com, has played a critical role in exposing the lies of the first Winter Soldiers Event. While his efforts have been vital to the restoration of the honorable and proud service of Vietnam Veterans, one cannot help but be frustrated that his work, along with others who have devoted countless hours, took decades to unravel; decades in which these fine men were saddled with an undeserved albatross of shame at the sliming hands of John Kerry and the IVAW.

In the days leading up to the current circus of reputation assassins, Swett commented, “Winter Soldier II is the sequel to a fraud. At the event, radicals told horror stories about Vietnam, but then stonewalled, hedged and backtracked when questioned by military investigators. The Army’s Criminal Investigation Division opened 48 cases to check out the VVAW’s allegations, but only one was ever substantiated. These people have been using rumors and lies to slander the US military for nearly 40 years. The vast majority of their allegations are meaningless.”

As a glimpse into the mindset of the average mainstream press flunky, a Washington Post reporter was concluding an interview with a member of Vets for Peace. He was offered an opportunity to go to the back of the room to meet with bloggers representing a different perspective of the event. His answer? He waved the offer off and declined without shame. Clearly he was there to report on an agenda.

Saturday night, a crowd gathered to the fanfare of many honking horns and passerbys, to show their disgust for the IVAW freakshow with the ritual burning of their union cards.

The highlights of the weekend had little to do with anything planned by the IVAW. Friday night, more than 150 people stood outside the gates at Walter Reed Hospital to cheer the Friday night bus of returning wounded soldiers. The crowd spanned all ages and walks of life. There were Vietnam Veterans, mothers of soldiers, Gold Star wives and parents and civilians there for no greater purpose than saying thank you.

Down the street, five Code Pinkos stood sullenly as car after car ignored their existence and laid on the horn for the patriots down the block. Suffering from “not enough attention” syndrome, they called the area Police to report that they felt “threatened”. Such delicate natures.

At 9:30, the bus pulled in to Walter Reed to the sounds of deafening cheering and applause and an enthusiastic, if not pitch perfect, rendition of God Bless America. The shock and wonder on those young faces was humbling. The bus stopped part way up the drive and a young soldier on crutches, missing half of his leg but none of his pride or enthusiasm, came to the crowd with his beautiful wife to thank them. He told them, “The guys on the bus asked me to come out and thank every one of you for being here. You mean so much to us. My friend wanted to come out but he is a triple-amputee and couldn’t easily get off the bus. When we pulled around the corner and saw all of you, it was the first time I have really seen him smile since he came back. Thank you.”

The stark differences of the pro-troops organizations and the anti-war crowd could not have been any more dramatic this weekend and the impact on our heroes could not be any more obvious.
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Home Front: Culture Wars
Winter Soldier 2008... Here We Go Again
2008-03-15
Former soldiers, Marines share their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan

Grim-faced and sorrowful, former soldiers and Marines sat before an audience of several hundred yesterday in Silver Spring and shared their recollections of their service in Iraq.

The stories spilled out, sometimes haltingly, sometimes in a rush: soldiers firing indiscriminately on Iraqi vehicles, an apartment building filled with Iraqi families devastated by an American gunship. Some descriptions were agonized, some vague; others offered specific dates and locations. All were recorded and streamed live to the Web.

The four-day event, "Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan — Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupations," is sponsored by Iraq Veterans Against the War and is expected to draw more than 200 veterans of the two wars through tomorrow. Timed for the eve of the fifth anniversary of the war's start next week, organizers hope the soldiers' accounts will galvanize public opposition.
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Michelle Malkin has links to alternablog coverage of this...
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Fifth Column
Anti-War Agitators Plan 'Winter Soldiers II' In Front Of Congress
2007-12-01
U.S. war veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan have announced they're planning to descend on Washington, DC this March to testify about war crimes they committed or personally witnessed in Iraq.

"The war in Iraq is not covered to its potential because of how dangerous it is for reporters to cover it," said Liam Madden, a former Marine and member of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War. "That's left a lot of misconceptions in the minds of the American public about what the true nature of military occupation looks like."

Iraq Veterans Against the War argues that well-publicized incidents of American brutality like the Abu Ghraib prison scandal and the massacre of an entire family of Iraqis in the town of Haditha are not the isolated incidents perpetrated by "a few bad apples," as many politicians and military leaders have claimed. They are part of a pattern, the group says, of "an increasingly bloody occupation."

"This is our generation getting to tell history," Madden told OneWorld, "to ensure that the actual history gets told -- that it's not a sugar-coated, diluted version of what actually happened."

Iraq Veterans Against the War is calling the gathering a "Winter Soldier," named after a similar event organized by Vietnam veterans in 1971. In 1971, over 100 members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War gathered in Detroit to share their stories with America. Atrocities like the My Lai massacre had ignited popular opposition to the war, but political and military leaders insisted that such crimes were isolated exceptions.

"Initially even the My Lai massacre was denied," notes Gerald Nicosia, whose book Home to War provides the most exhaustive history of the Vietnam veterans' movement. "The U.S. military has traditionally denied these accusations based on the fact that 'this is a crazy soldier' or 'this is a malcontent' -- that you can't trust this person. And that is the reason that Vietnam Veterans Against the War did this unified presentation in Detriot in 1971.

"They brought together their bonafides and wore their medals and showed it was more than one or two or three malcontents. It was medal-winning, honored soldiers -- veterans in a group verifying what each other said to try to convince people that these charges cannot be denied. That people are doing these things as a matter of policy."

Nicosia says the 1971 "Winter Soldier" was roundly ignored by the mainstream media, but that it made an indelible imprint on those who were there.
I remember WS -- a large number of the 'soldiers' testifying were phonies -- they were either never soldiers or had never been to Vietnam. They told a lot of lies. I expect WSII to be the same.
Among those in attendance was 27-year-old Navy Lieutenant John Kerry, who had served on a Swift Boat in Vietnam. Three months after the hearings, Nicosia notes, Kerry took his case to Congress and spoke before a jammed Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Television cameras lined the walls, and veterans packed the seats. "Many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia," Kerry told the Committee, describing the events of the "Winter Soldier" gathering. "It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit -- the emotions in the room, and the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do."

In one of the most famous antiwar speeches of the era, Kerry concluded: "Someone has to die so that President Nixon won't be -- and these are his words -- 'the first President to lose a war'. We are asking Americans to think about that, because how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
He was an idiot then and he's an idiot today. And an idiot every day in-between.
Nicosia says Americans and veterans find themselves in a similar situation today. "The majority of the American people are very dissatisfied with the Iraq war now and would be happy to get out of it. But Americans are bred deep into their psyches to think of America as a good country and, I think, much harder than just the hurdle of getting troops out of Iraq, is to get Americans to realize the terrible things we do in the name of the United States."
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Home Front: Politix
Not-So-Massive Antiwar Protest in D.C.
2007-09-16
A march by thousands of protesters demanding an end to the Iraq war turned chaotic yesterday afternoon near the Capitol, where hundreds sprawled on the ground in a symbolic "die-in." Police arrested 189 people, including 10 who organizers said were veterans of the war.

Capitol Police used chemical spray against a small number of the protesters and pushed back others who tried to jump a barrier in a self-described effort to be arrested. The "die-in," on a walkway in front of the Capitol, was generally peaceful, but scores of arrests came when protesters tried to climb over metal fences and a low stone wall.

Iraq war veteran Geoff Millard, 26, of Columbia Heights wore fatigues and clutched an American flag as he lay on the ground before he was arrested. "It's time for the peace movement to take the next step past protest and to resistance," said Millard, president of the D.C. chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War.

It was an unruly end to a day that started in brilliant sunshine with two separate, largely upbeat rallies. One began about noon at Lafayette Square, across from the White House, and was organized by the antiwar ANSWER Coalition. The other, a few hours earlier on the Mall, was organized by Gathering of Eagles -- a group of Vietnam veterans -- and the D.C. chapter of the conservative group Free Republic. Their message: The Iraq war can be and is being won, and the troops need unqualified support. "We just want a chance to show America we don't agree with the vocal minority," said Deborah King-Lile, 55, of St. Augustine, Fla.

March organizers said Iraq war veterans were more involved and visible at yesterday's protest than in any other similar demonstration since the conflict began. Activists said they are planning "a week of action" meant to push the antiwar movement to a more confrontational stage.

Organizers of the antiwar event said tens of thousands turned out. A law enforcement official, who declined to be identified because authorities no longer provide crowd counts, estimated the gathering at closer to 10,000; the march permit obtained in advance by ANSWER had projected that number.

Early in the day, Lafayette Square took on a festive atmosphere, with some war protesters wearing wigs and costumes and others drumming and playing music even as passionate speeches were given. Vietnam veterans chatted with Iraq war veterans young enough to be their children.

Signs and T-shirts displayed pointed antiwar messages, but a wide array of other causes was trumpeted, from health care and Palestinian rights to vegan advocacy. A man with a sign on his hat that read "Cowboys opposed to war" stood next to a woman in a hijab holding the sign "Bush/Cheney Impeached: Don't settle for less."

Jeffrey Peskoff, 35, a former Army mechanic who served a year in Iraq, repeated what others have said about ANSWER: It tries to attach too many issues to the antiwar campaign. "But it's still productive," said Peskoff, who lives in Fort Carson, Colo. "It got people out, which is good. Even having the [war supporters] out, that's Americana in action."

Speakers included several Iraq war veterans, activist Ralph Nader and former U.S. attorney general Ramsey Clark, who talked about Iraqis who were refugees, hungry, or ill. "You can't believe a word the administration says," Clark said.

But administration supporters, well represented in the Gathering of Eagles and Free Republic counter-demonstrations, disagreed. "I've seen how leftist politicians hate the military. It's disgusting. We're fighting a war not in Iraq but with them," said Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, a retired Air Force pilot.

War supporters staked out three blocks on Pennsylvania Avenue to await the war protesters. A large police presence and metal barricades separated the groups, but not their words.

"Commies out of D.C.!" came the chants from one corner of 10th Street NW. A bus had been painted with antiwar slogans including "Impeach Bush-Cheney Now!!" A man at Pennsylvania Avenue and Sixth Street shouted "Drive your bus into the Potomac. You're all idiots. . . . Relieve us of your stupidity."

Like many yesterday, Deborah Johns, the mother of a sergeant who has served three tours in Iraq, raised the Vietnam War for comparison. "We're not going to let the domestic enemy here at home defeat us like they did then," she said. "No retreat, no surrender. Not now, not ever."
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Home Front: WoT
Iraq Vet Faces Penalty For War Protest
2007-06-01
A U.S. veteran who served in the Iraq war could lose his honorable discharge status after being photographed wearing fatigues at an anti-war protest. Marine Cpl. Adam Kokesh and other veterans marked the fourth anniversary of the war in Iraq in March by wearing their uniforms — with military insignia removed — and roaming around the nation's capital on a mock patrol.

After Kokesh was identified in a photo caption in The Washington Post, a superior officer sent him a letter saying he might have violated a rule prohibiting troops from wearing uniforms without authorization. Kokesh, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, responded with an obscenity.

A military panel has been scheduled to meet with Kokesh on Monday to decide whether his discharge status should be changed from "honorable" to "other than honorable." "This is clearly a case of selective prosecution and intimidation of veterans who speak out against the war," Kokesh said. "To suggest that while as a veteran you don't have freedom of speech is absurd."

Kokesh is part of the Individual Ready Reserve, a segment of the reserves that consists mainly of those who have left active duty but still have time remaining on their eight-year military obligations. His attorney, Mike Lebowitz, said Kokesh's IRR status ends June 18. He said at least three other veterans have been investigated because of their involvement at demonstrations.

Kokesh, 25, enlisted in the Marines while still attending high school in New Mexico. He was a reservist in an artillery unit, assigned to the November Battery, 5th Battalion, 14th Regiment of the 4th Division based out of Pico Rivera, Calif., near Los Angeles.

Kokesh said he had reservations about Iraq even before the United States invaded, but wanted to go there to help rebuild schools and mosques after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled. He even learned Arabic. He said he grew disillusioned with the war during his first tour and now believes there is no way for the country to achieve the rule of law with a foreign military imposing martial law.

He was supposed to go to Iraq a second time, but was demoted from sergeant to corporal and not allowed to return after it was learned that he brought a pistol back after his first tour in 2004.

Kokesh argues that he was not representing the military at the protest in Washington, and he made that clear by removing his name tag and other military insignia from his uniform.

Lebowitz said Kokesh technically is a civilian unless recalled to active duty and had the right to be disrespectful in his response to the officer. He called the proceedings against Kokesh highly unusual and said the military usually seeks to change a veteran's discharge status only if a crime has been committed.

If his discharge status is changed, Kokesh said he could lose some health benefits and be forced to repay about $10,800 he received to obtain his undergraduate degree on veterans benefits.

Kokesh said he holds no ill will toward the Marines. "I love the Marine Corps," he said. "I always have loved the Marine Corps, and that is why I'm particularly offended to see it being used for political ends."
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