BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - The prosecutor in the JonBenet Ramsey case Tuesday defended her decision to bring John Mark Karr halfway around the world to Colorado for investigation, saying it was difficult to separate fact from fantasy in his lurid account because every detail of the slaying is public knowledge.
District Attorney Mary Lacy said that in addition to Karr's graphic account, his obvious predilection for little girls forced her hand.
"We felt we could not ignore this. We had to follow it," she said. "There was a real public safety concern here directed at a particular child" in Thailand, and a forensic psychologist said Karr "was dangerous, this person was escalating."
Also Tuesday, a judge ordered Karr sent to California to face five misdemeanor child pornography charges dating to 2001, saying he had violated terms of his bond in that state by failing to show up for a hearing on the charges.
In the day since Lacy's office announced it was dropping the case against Karr, the district attorney has been bitterly criticized by defense attorneys and by Gov. Bill Owens, who accused her of wasting thousands of dollars on the "most expensive DNA test in Colorado history."
For 90 minutes, Lacy patiently explained why authorities spent at least $9,300 to bring Karr back from Thailand after he balked at a more sophisticated DNA test that could have ruled him out as a suspect in the 1996 slaying of the 6-year-old beauty queen at her Boulder home.
Lacy said she wanted the investigation done quietly, but details leaked to the media.
She said her office has checked out some 200 suspects over the years and dealt with "dozens" of false confessions. The problem, she said, is that there is nothing left that only the killer would know.
"As far as we can tell, there is no physical evidence in this case that has not been in the public domain," Lacy said. "The ability of our office or any law enforcement to connect this kind of a person - based on something they know about it that no one else knows - was gone a long time ago."
Lacy said she has received calls from people calling for her to be "tarred and feathered" and "run out of town."
"The decisions were mine," said Lacy, who will be forced out by term limits in 2008. "The responsibility is mine, and I should be held accountable for all decisions in this case."
Karr was being held at the Boulder jail. District Judge Roxanne Bailin ordered him sent to Sonoma County, Calif., by Sept. 13 to face the child pornography charges. If convicted, he could get a year in prison on each count.
Karr's father and brother, Wexford and Nate Karr, were at the Boulder jail on Tuesday, but left without commenting.
Karr spent years corresponding by e-mail and talking by phone with a Colorado journalism professor, who tipped off authorities. Karr claimed that he accidentally killed JonBenet during a ritualistic sexual encounter.
His claims included personal details investigators were able to verify, including the fact that his mother tried to burn him when he was a child, Lacy said.
That suggested he might be telling the truth about being a killer, even though his references to everything from JonBenet's bracelet and runny nose to her bludgeoned skull can be easily found in books or on the Web, prosecutors said.
"This guy confessed on numerous occasions in great detail," said Peter Maguire, a deputy district attorney. "He confessed in e-mails, he confessed in telephone conversations. ... He admitted it to a police officer. This was a bizarre crime and the person who committed this crime acted in a bizarre way."
Ultimately, DNA tests on blood in JonBenet's underwear failed to connect Karr to the crime, and investigators had no evidence he was even in Boulder at the time.
"John Karr inserted himself into this," Lacy said. "I don't have a great deal of sympathy for John Karr. I have sympathy for his family."
Prosecutors said they have received fresh tips since they arrested Karr, but none seem promising.
Lacy said she was frustrated as the 10-year anniversary of the slaying approaches. "I don't think there's anyone who doesn't want to solve this crime with the right person," she said. "We still very much hope that it will be solved at some point."
As for Karr, Lacy said she will cooperate with Sonoma County authorities "to get him convicted, registered, treated and supervised."
"I also know that at least every parent in this country has seen his picture and knows his name so you have some ability to protect yourself against him," Lacy said.
Along Boulder's Pearl Street pedestrian mall, Tim Shaughnessy of nearby Louisville, said he was surprised by the media attention and law enforcement effort dedicated to Karr's arrest.
"Ten years ago, I could see it," he said. "Today? Why even bring him back here to Colorado if you don't have something on him?"
As for the money spent bringing back Karr from Thailand, Shaughnessy was ambivalent. "As long as my streets are plowed in the winter," he said.
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What an incompetent boob. Why couldnt they extract DNA while the guy was still in Thailand? Trust me, the Thais would perform this service pro bono and ship the evidence to Colorado. They guy would still be in a filthy disgusting Thai prison getting beat up on an hourly basis. P.S. we now know that the REAL killer is still out there.
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"It's an artificial population imbalalance caused by unbalanced immigration."
Gee, and here I thought it was a mental imbalance, caused by a foul cult called Islam, resulting in Bourkas, beatings, 'honor' killings and repression of women throughout the muslim world.
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Mcsegeek, afaik the UAE doesn't practice widespread female infanticide or sex-selection abortions. They just import lots of males as migrant workers from countries that do.
You are spot on. I was just in Bahrain, and all the manual labor was being done by men who looked Filipino or from the Indian subcontinent.
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You've seen or heard nothing, till you've sat through Billy Ray Cryus' "Achy Breaky Heart" performed by an all female Filipino band in white mini-skirts at the Sheritan in Manama. Makes you just want to pint-on and laugh all night long.
ASIR, 27 August 2006 A couple here was divorced right after they were married after the mother of the bride threw a hissy-fit over the car that was going to escort her daughter from the celebration, the Okaz daily reported yesterday. For some reason, the practical Toyota Camry just wasnt good enough; the old lady wanted her precious princess to be chauffeured away in a stretch limousine. In fact, she unreasonably insisted on the groom getting a fancier car right there and then.
The groom tried to reason with her, that it was too late to be scurrying about town trying to drum up an acceptable ride. The woman was relentless however, and, finally, the groom came to the sad realization that this raving lunatic of a woman would be his mother-in-law if he didnt break off the nuptials right there and then. And so, alas, he uttered three times the words that ended the marriage, and drove off in his practical car.
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Snigger. She'll probably do it to the next victimson-in-law, too!
IT is close to midnight outside a pizza parlour - and four cars nearby are waiting to be crashed into innocent drivers so gangs can scam a fortune from fake insurance claims.
A 6ft Asian with cropped hair who belongs to one of four gangs in the South East each pocketing £2million a year from the con, is to coordinate the night's kamikaze mayhem.
In the next six hours two lorries will become victims, careering into the rear of cars which brake heavily in front of them.
The truck drivers suspect nothing because in each case they have seen another car swerving in front of the motors they have hit. Unknown to them, the driver of the second car is also a gang member.
While the accomplice's car speeds off, the lorry driver and "victim" exchange details.
The trucker's insurance then pays out on a claim for vehicle damage - and maybe personal injury and hire of a replacement vehicle - filed by a crooked claims company.
Sickeningly, while in it mainly for the money, the fraudsters get kicks from each crash, laughing at the terrified faces of drivers as they are run off the road at up to 70mph. Ten vehicles a night can be targeted.
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Mirror does not say whether the photo evidence and names of the scammers have been submitted to authorities. I hope yes, but with "journalists", one never knows.
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This is called "Swoop & Squat". Often the prinicipals are crooked lawyers who've teamed up with over-billing chiropracters. A group of illegal immigrants are recruited for a small fee and loaded into a barely functional vehicle for the takedown.
All involved, including the various wheelmen, need to face charges of attempted premeditated murder. Frequently, especially with big rigs, the truck simply steamrolls the squatting vehicle, killing all inside.
My sympathy goes to the poor truck drivers who have their DMV record ruined and face job loss from such corrupt doings, let alone the horror of having to remember an entire carload of people being killed in front of them.
A former head of the Armed Forces struck a Labour Party peer during a furious row over the Lebanon conflict. Lord Bramall, 82, hit Lord Janner, a senior member of Britain's Jewish community, after making what witnesses claim were a series of 'anti-Israel' comments.
Peers watched in astonishment as their argument over the Middle East escalated.
Lord Janner, 78, a veteran campaigner for Holocaust victims, was said to feel 'wronged and seriously offended' after the attack at the House of Lords. He immediately sought the advice of fellow peers about how and whether to make a formal complaint against Lord Bramall, who was Chief of the Defence Staff during the 1982 Falklands War and sits as a cross-bencher. But, after consulting several colleagues, Lord Janner decided he was prepared to accept an apology. They approached Lord Bramall, who later phoned him to say sorry.
A senior source said: 'There was no anti-Semitic remark but the comments by Bramall were anti-Israel. It took place in one of the rooms close to the Lords chamber and it got out of hand. It ended with Bramall hitting Janner.
'Those who witnessed the row were extremely shocked by his behaviour.'
The former Labour MP for Leicester - better known as Greville Janner - was left feeling 'distressed and bewildered', according to one of the senior peers he consulted.
When Lord Bramall was asked if it was true that he had had an argument with Lord Janner over the Lebanon crisis, in which he made anti-Israeli remarks, he replied: 'We are very old friends, we have corresponded since then.' Asked what 'then' meant, Lord Bramall said: 'Since we had a slight argument.' Questioned over whether the argument involved any physical contact, Lord Bramall replied: 'Not an assault,' before terminating the conversation.
Eton-educated Lord Bramall served in the occupation of Japan. He was later on Lord Mountbatten's staff and became a full General in 1976.
No action has been taken by the Lords authorities and Lord Janner has made no complaint. Last night he said: 'Lord Bramall has apologised, and, as far as I'm concerned, the matter is now closed. I'm sorry, I'm saying nothing more.
THE owners of the Honeymoon uranium mine in South Australia have given approval for the development to proceed. In a statement issued in Toronto, Uranium One said its board of directors had approved the mine's go ahead after a detailed feasibility study. It said it hoped to commission the mine in 2008.
Uranium One has already been granted a mining licence by the South Australian Government but must now wait on final environmental approval.
Uranium One said the feasibility study had shown an estimated resource of 1.2 million tonnes of ore and put capital development costs at $US35.9 million ($47 million). "In light of the results of the feasibility study, Uranium One's board of directors has approved the development of the Honeymoon Project," the statement said.
Uranium One chief executive Neal Froneman said the feasibility study confirmed that the Honeymoon project was both technically viable and financially robust. "Today's announcement follows closely on feasibility studies completed for our Dominion Uranium Project (in South Africa) in late July and for the Modder East Gold Project in early August," Mr Froneman said.
"With the feasibility studies behind us, we are now moving towards uranium production, first in South Africa at Dominion in the first quarter of 2007 and then at Honeymoon, where we look forward to commissioning Australia's fourth uranium mine in 2008."
Many in her country had turned against the war. The mayor of her city was organizing a protest against the president. And the insurgents in Iraq, Amy Galvez feared, were growing bolder by the day.
Galvez decided she had heard enough. Hoping her words might persuade those who support the president, the war and the troops in Iraq to assemble in a great demonstration of patriotism and support, Galvez sat at her computer and began to type.
"My son, who is a resident of Salt Lake City, is now in Iraq," she wrote in an e-mail to The Salt Lake Tribune on Sunday. "American lives have been lost in this war because the enemy has been emboldened by our own words, actions and lack of support for our own mission."
Galvez was still sitting at her computer when she heard a car door close outside her northwest Salt Lake City home. Peering through the window, she saw two Marines coming up the walk.
Adam Galvez, 21, was killed Sunday in Iraq's volatile Al Anbar province in a roadside bomb attack that claimed the life of two other members of his battalion. His death, the 2,607th U.S. fatality confirmed by the Department of Defense, comes as his hometown is bracing for the arrival of President Bush, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who are scheduled to address the national convention of the American Legion next week at the Salt Palace Convention Center.
The city's mayor, Rocky Anderson, has pledged to protest the visit and has invited Cindy Sheehan, a prominent war protester who lost her son in Iraq, to speak at an anti-war demonstration.
Inside her home, now adorned by a flag at half-staff, on Tuesday, Amy Galvez said she was more determined than ever to ensure the mission for which her son fought and died is supported back home. "I don't want Cindy Sheehan and Rocky Anderson to be the only voices the world hears," Galvez said Tuesday evening from the living room of her home in northwest Salt Lake City, not far from the airport where Air Force One is scheduled to touch down next week. "I want our voices to be heard. I want the world to know that our troops are wonderful."
And, she said, she wants people to know that her son made a choice to serve his country and was proud of his mission in Iraq.
The day after Adam Galvez was killed, family members were given a copy of a letter, written to a close friend, in which the Marine confirmed his support for the war in Iraq, Galvez's parents said. That support remained, they said, even after Adam Galvez - trained as a mechanic but often assigned to patrols of Anbar's dangerous streets - stood above the rubble of a U.S. military post struck by a suicide bomber and listened as, one by one, the voices of several fellow Marines fell silent.
Galvez told his parents he was suffering from nightmares about the July 29 attack, in which he was injured and four others were killed.
Still, the parents said, their son remained confident that his mission was just.
And Tony Galvez said he had remained confident his son, the second of three children in the Galvez family, would return home safely. "I had no doubt he was coming home," the grieving father said. "It never crossed my mind that he wouldn't come home."
Adam Galvez, who attended West High School and the Horizonte Instruction and Training Center, where he graduated in 2003, was due back from Iraq next month.
But Tony Galvez also believed, as his wife did, that the insurgents his son was fighting were growing more dangerous. And he, too, believes that those who question the justness of the war have gone too far. "You can't support the troops but be against the war," he said. "It just doesn't work."
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Typically translated as, "Another woman handed her son his shield, and exhorted him: 'Son, either with this or on this,'" the quote is found in the writings of the Roman writer Plutarch--specifically, in his collection of 78 morals, tales, and short stories (of which more than half survive) called the Moralia, in a section called Sayings of Spartan Women.
Every time you use an internet search engine, your inquiry is stored in a huge database. Would you like such personal information to become public knowledge? Yet for thousands of AOL customers, that nightmare has just become a reality. Andrew Brown reports on an incident that has exposed how much we divulge to Google & co. Rest at link... I shudder to think about my own google searches being put into public light... a glipmpse into the Abyss... the Horror, the Horror...
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Every time you use an internet search engine, your inquiry is stored in a huge database. Would you like such personal information to become public knowledge?
Well I think we can agree that the members of MSM have very little to worry about on their record of searching via Google, Ask, etc, but probably shows a lot of time at MoveOn, Kos, and various terrorist sites.
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Profiling my usage off of Google querries would not make any sense. The reason?
I can't spell worth a damn. I have found that if you really mangle the spelling of a word then google offers better suggested spellings then any spellchecker does so I use GOOGLE TO SPELLCHECK!
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ENEMY OF THE STATE > actor Jon Voight as bad guy/rogue INTEL-crat >"There is no such thing as privacy anymore...". THEY-WHO-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED will vote for it before voting against it before ...before ... before...etc.
University of New Hampshire administrators are standing behind a tenured professor who has publicly theorized that the U.S. government orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, even as Gov. John Lynch condemned his remarks. Calling psychology professor William Woodward's theory "completely crazy and offensive," the governor said in a statement yesterday that he plans to address his concerns with the University System of New Hampshire Board of Trustees. "Although academic freedom is important," the governor said, "if the UNH professor is promoting that view, it reflects a reckless disregard for the true facts and raises questions as to why such a professor would be teaching at the university in the first place."
Woodward is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, an organization that maintains the Bush administration permitted the terrorist attacks to occur, and may even have planned them, so as to rally the public around its policies. Woodward has discussed the theory in his classroom and has said he hopes to teach a new class that would explore Sept. 11 "in psychological terms."
Andy Lietz, chairman of the system's Board of Trustees, said he asked university administrators to review Woodward's comments in the classroom. He maintained, however, that Woodward may belong to any organization he chooses, and that he may present controversial material so long as he does it responsibly. "I think he's absolutely wrong, and I'm disappointed that he would have those positions," Lietz said. "But he's an individual, and he has a right to have positions, as you and I have a right to have positions."
In a statement yesterday, the university's interim president, J. Bonnie Newman, said UNH encourages "the open inquiry of ideas."
"For me," Newman said, "there is no doubt that this tragic incident was the result of terrorists who had one objective in mind: to destroy the United States of America, the freedoms we enjoy and the principles that guide our democracy." However, she said, "Among those principles is freedom of speech."
A similar controversy swirled in Wisconsin earlier this month, when legislators there called on the public university system to fire Professor Kevin Barrett, also a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Barrett retained his job and is teaching a course on Islam this fall. Scholars for 9/11 Truth claims to have 300 members nationwide. Its founder and co-chairman, retired University of Minnesota-Duluth Professor James H. Fetzer, said about 75 of those members have "academic affiliations." Woodward's critics, Fetzer said, are "arrogant in their ignorance."
"Of course, all of us have difficulty imagining our government could have attacked our own government," he said. "But do you know there are an awful lot of people who have paid attention to the evidence that are coming around?"
Fetzer's writings dispute the conclusions of the Sept. 11 Commission, whose 2004 report clearly states that the attacks were carried out by Islamic extremists under the leadership of Osama Bin Laden. Fetzer argues the hijacked planes could not have destroyed the World Trade Center. Among other claims, he says several of the suspected hijackers have turned up "alive and well."
"Virtually every aspect of the government's position on 9/11 is provably false," Fetzer said. Woodward also is a member of New Hampshire Peace Action and other anti-war organizations. In May, he and five other demonstrators were charged with criminal trespassing during an anti-war protest at U.S. Rep. Jeb Bradley's office in Dover.
In an op-ed in Foster's Daily Democrat last month, Woodward accused Israel of committing "atrocities" against the Palestinians and labeled the U.S. as "directly complicit." "The U.S. should stop support of Israel until it returns its 10,000 kidnapped victims, withdraws from settlements, and pays reparations," Woodward wrote in a piece published July 28.
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Woodward is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, an organization that maintains the Bush administration permitted the terrorist attacks to occur, and may even have planned them performs the role of "flypaper" for the lunatics that somehow managed to make it through the higher education system without getting caught.
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The ability to distinguish between free speech and barking mad moonbattery looks like a growth industry. To say that everyone here at the 'Burg is much smarter than J. Bonnie Newman, the "dipshit in charge" at UNH, is obvious.
Let's commit her to a nice state institution and use her salary to allow Fred to retire - and fund future Rantapaloozas.
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So when is the university going to support 'academic freedom' and establish chairs to be filled by 'tenured professors' who advocate return to the monarchy and to slavery?
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Administrators continue to raise the 'freedom of speech' argument to protect their moonbat profs. That misses the entire point. What about 'academic competence'? In state funded schools, the state has a right to demand that the teachers are competent.
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Too bad Larry Summers wasn't president of UNH instead of Harvard. He might still have a job.
Oh, wait. That was the wrong kind of speech. Freedom of Speech don't cover that...
Academics are the biggest hypocrites in this country.
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"Administrators continue to raise the 'freedom of speech' argument to protect their moonbat profs. That misses the entire point. What about 'academic competence'? In state funded schools, the state has a right to demand that the teachers are competent."
Exactly! He is free to think and say whatever he wants. He is also free to suffer the consequences of speaking his mind out loud.
The Administrators, Trustees', Alumni, parents etc. etc. should be moving to set him and every other moonbat faculty member adrift. Tenured or not. This Academic Freedom and PC bull crap has got to go.
Spewing garbage in direct contradiction of known and verified fact, has nothing to do with Academic Freedom. Find this idiot a rubber room somewhere.
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Spewing garbage in direct contradiction of known and verified fact
With all due respect T.Redneck, a number of facts from the official 9/11 Commission Report have been called into question, others refuted, and some proven to be false. With that said, The Scholars for 9/11 Truth proves itself to be an intellectually dishonest bunch every time they interject their Anti-NeoCon/Bush/Republican/Illumitaty/War/(fill in the blank) to bolster their unproven conclusions.
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"a number of facts from the official 9/11 Commission Report have been called into question, others refuted, and some proven to be false. "
Aw, c'mon DepotGuy. Of course some facts are later proven to be innaccurate. Show me a government report where this is not the case. 'Called into question'? By whom, and for what reason? Lots of things get called into question, but are all questions and questioners credible? Hell, I could 'call into question' the fact that the earth is a spherical planet, insist it's flat, and have a huge following of nutjobs that agree with me (yes the flat earth society does exist), but we're talking about the basic facts of 9/11 in the sense that to believe or espouse otherwise is ludicrous. We are not talking about the insignificant details. And we're also not talking about 'intellectual dishonesty'. If we were talking about a debate over 'global warming', I'd agree that some are being intellectually dishonest in their conclusions. That's a far cry from espousing flat earth, we never went to the moon, Bush blew up the towers, etc.
Ludicrous:
1 : amusing or laughable through obvious absurdity, incongruity, exaggeration, or eccentricity.
2 : meriting derisive laughter or scorn as absurdly inept, false, or foolish.
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James H. Fetzer, Distinguished McKnight University Professor Emeritus, University of Minnesota Duluth, Department of Philosophy,
University of Minnesota
Fetzer argues the hijacked planes could not have destroyed the World Trade Center.
Right. Leave it to a philosophy professor to catch a bunch of engineers lying about verifiable structural engineering facts.
Whilst I am but a mere civil engineer - as opposed to a registered professional structral engineer, I was not the least bit surprised when the towers "pancaked", and my initial impression of the cause was correct.
The intense heat softened the steel until it yielded (bent) and overstreesed some other structural memeber (thing) to failure (it broke). When the parts of the steel holding up the floor bent and broke, the concrete floor collaped on the floor below, causing it to crash down on the one below. Repeat to the lowest level.
There. Ya think a philosophy professor can understand that? Probably, but he won't believe it.
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rationality and being delusion-free are, in fact, bona fide job requirements.
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"but we're talking about the basic facts of 9/11 in the sense that to believe or espouse otherwise is ludicrous".
mcsegeek1, I could be wrong but I dont believe the 9/11 Report is considered to be just another government report. Either way, if some people wish to believe all the basic facts regarding 9/11 have been established great. But keep in mind some of those facts as well as a number of conclusions and recommendations are based on the testimony of people like Sandy Berger and Richard Clark. I dont support the fantastic theories floating about but believe people are justified in questioning the official story line.
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BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - The prosecutor in the JonBenet Ramsey case Tuesday defended her decision to bring John Mark Karr halfway around the world to Colorado for investigation, saying it was difficult to separate fact from fantasy in his lurid account because every detail of the slaying is public knowledge.
A former head of the Armed Forces struck a Labour Party peer during a furious row over the Lebanon conflict. Lord Bramall, 82, hit Lord Janner, a senior member of Britain's Jewish community, after making what witnesses claim were a series of 'anti-Israel' comments. 
THE owners of the Honeymoon uranium mine in South Australia have given approval for the development to proceed. In a statement issued in Toronto, Uranium One said its board of directors had approved the mine's go ahead after a detailed feasibility study. It said it hoped to commission the mine in 2008.
University of New Hampshire administrators are standing behind a tenured professor who has publicly theorized that the U.S. government orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, even as Gov. 
