[Townhall] It's Kurt
Everybody wrap something around your face again even though they said you wouldn’t need to if you got vaxxed! But they didn’t lie — no, apparently a bunch of people — and not just those evil white nationalist-Christian-gun-Jesus-flag people — are refusing to get the vaccine, and the reason is that they are moral defectives somehow in thrall to Tucker Carlson’s Svengali-like powers of persuasion. You see, the people who won’t get it are stupid people who hate science because they refuse to trust the people who have spent the last year-and-a-half lying to them.
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Faith is for the congregation, not the priest?
He did mention this: I got the vaccine. I also had the disease. I talked to conservative doctors I trusted about my unique situation and made my decision. You should do the same —
#4
He did mention this:
I got the vaccine. I also had the disease. I talked to conservative doctors I trusted about my unique situation and made my decision. You should do the same
And if your doctor tells you not to vaccinate, your family can sue him for malpractice after delta gets you? (well, he is a lawyer)
#7
^This is not a personal decision - because it affects other people.
For example: an attendant in a retirement home does not have a right to refuse vaccination AND keep their job. Ditto for medical personnel or school teachers.
On the positive side, I understand that now - when delta (which is not age discriminatory like the earlier versions) became prevalent, people who know somebody that got it personally, harry to vaccinate - some people are slow learners.
#8
Regardless of your position on any of the vaccines, it is impossible to ignore that a large part of what has gone on has little to do with the supposed catalyst.
You demand the vaccine (any) or you refuse and of course anybody who doesn't follow you is obviously an imbecile, government stooge or possibly an imbecilic government stooge. Fine.
That still doesn't explain the fact that a great deal of global governmental intervention has been at best adjacent to and in many cases counter to public health and societal well being.
I would also observe they seem to be getting a might shrill and thuggish about something that produces a 99 + % survival rate. So, what's it all mean?
Come-on people give it up, everybody knows that you oppose the vaccines for the same reason you oppose masks & lockdowns. You oppose anything that comes from the other party (and so do they) regardless of the facts of the matter.
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#9 Leaving aside the fact you have no idea whether I am vaccinated or not, whether I oppose them or not, it's worth examining what you mean by facts. Because at this moment in time you can run down any fact or expert to prove anything you want.
No Dr I and my personal medical history does not extend beyond me so it would ne unethical to promote either therapeutic approach. Is that clear enough for you?
Now I may well be a slow learner, obviously I would be the last to know. But oh real man of genius, did it ever occur to you to consider the actual question I was raising instead of the fevered dialogue churning in the back of your head?
Golly, back when I was a blunt instrument for the state they even told us to watch out about all that 'ere self talk. I'm guessing yours is out of hand. I'd hate to make any suggestions in the presence of nobility and all, but you might want to think about getting into the same conversation before manically proclaiming how right you are. All I did was ask a question or 2.
#14
Many thanks for the hint, G. Living in outer darkness I need all I can get. But I have to differ with the rest of your response, or as they say in the aulde country, I call bullsh!t.
Your favored arrow device left me thinking, or perhaps 'thinking' you were responding to me. That with the treasured suggestion I should follow the advice for the slow of thought. Then you went on to tell me just what I was thinking and why using that pesky 'you' pronoun.
So technically I suppose you would be right, since you apparently are as unable to divine my motivation as my point and ultimately questions.
Protest too much? How clever. If I were quicker on the uptake I would guess somebody important said that. Perhaps I simply detest mind readers, after all it's most commonly an older woman's profession anyway.
#16
Did you ever fucking look at the information I told you to look at from the 2017 PDR on HCQ dosages and how it relates to all of the studies or are you going to keep looking away every time I mention it?
#17
Language, Thing, language - don't imitate certain immature individuals. Did you remember my argument about HCQ - if it were capable of working some poor country would have used it. Remember USA is has 4.2% of world population. Don't overestimate the power & influence of Fauci and "Big Pharma".
For that matter, when pandemic started, Bibi went to his pal Modi and scored 7 tons of HCQ. Several hospitals and universities in Israel tested it - totally worthless.
Not enough? Google "Brazil HCQ".
#18
So in short you don't have to look at the details of the fraud because you don't think it's plausible to begin with.
>>Googling "Brazil HCQ" is not peer reviewed.
AND: IF Google was funding Ecohealth Alliance, they're complicit in the creation of the virus. The figures I found in the print PDR are different than the ones from the website.
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There is broad scale information warfare going on.
Part of the problem with hcq is that it was a good preventative and/or early stage treatment, which is something western medicine is refusing to look at.
Look, trying to extract value from the stuff that Fauci and the international bureaucracy is putting out is basically like trying to polish a turd after picking it up by the clean end. Go and look at the sources on paper yourself from shortly before the problem started.
(Helpful hint: 2010's PDR doesn't have an extensive entry on HCQ, but 2017's does, I guess because it started being used in the west again due to RA and Lupus.)
There's more, but I'm not trying to convince you to take HCQ _right now_. There may actually be better drugs for you to take, although they're lying about them too...
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#15 So now you've branched out from your ruefully unsuccessful mind reading gig into psychoanalysis, with similar results. You simply don't like it that somebody called you on your BS and preposterous attempts at bullying.
You did EXACTLY what I said you did and you're too small to simply own it, you know, like a man. You neither refute nor provide counter point and above all you have totally avoided any remote attempt to address my initial point. Your misreading of which has led to our exchange.
Even a woman can't avoid the actual underlying point and deflect this well. All that anime is going to your head. Oh, and as a very maybe THE wisest man recently observed 'belief obscures reality', sort of like your response to #18 thing from snowy mountain...superb self awareness, Bravo!
#22
Too bad Kurt had to anchor his argument on the COVID debacle, because the larger point isn't COVID, vaccines, masks or lockdowns. The big picture is credibility or lack of it. The "scientists" in this, Fauxi, et. al. - credibility zero. The institutions, CDC, NIH, et. al. - credibility zero. The politicians, media and corporate officer types shrieking "Muh Science™! - credibility zero. Ditto for the institutions and organizations they populate
The entire concept of "The Noble Lie in service of a Greater Truth" is noxious, toxic bunkum, and anyone trafficking in it - credibility zero.
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The GIVERnment has taken this pandemic so serious that they have only let in ~1.3 million unvaccinated illegals into the country since the pandemic started.
[Washington Examiner] An immigrant from the Soviet Union to the United States is warning against critical race theory, saying school curricula drawing from it resemble the Marxism that once flourished in the USSR.
Elina Kaplan, who said she's a registered Democrat, said in particular that the state ethnic studies model curriculum in California reflects what she was taught as a child.
"All of a sudden, I was reading the same concepts and language, in English this time, in the guiding principles of the California Ethnic Studies model curriculum," Kaplan said Friday.
The California Board of Education approved its model curriculum March 18, which defines ethnic studies as a field that "critically grapples with the various power structures and forms of oppression that continue to have social, emotional, cultural, economic, and political impacts."
[Townhall] Comedian and HBO host Bill Maher is at it again, tossing truth bombs on his Friday night "Real Time" segments and ticking off the woke left in the process. This time, however, the intensity seems to have ticked up a notch, with lefties all over Twitter demanding that Maher himself be canceled for his latest mockery of cancel culture.
Here's the offending segment, which primarily dealt with what Maher called the "woke Olympics." Just try to keep yourself from literally shaking while watching it. Seven-minute video at link. "Why do we allow the people who just want to bitch to always win?" he asked before citing more examples, including a musical director who was fired after a 1994 interview surfaced in which he admitted to bullying his classmates as a kid. "This is called a purge. It’s a mentality that belongs in Stalin’s Russia. How bad does this atmosphere we’re living in have to get before the people who say cancel culture is overblown admit that it is in fact an insanity that is swallowing up the world?"
"And that is not a conservative position, my friends," he said later in the segment. "My politics have not changed, but I am reacting to politics that have, and this is yet another example of how the woke invert the very thing that used to make liberals liberals. Snitches and bitches, that's not being liberal." Boring liberal complainers - bitches and snitches - at the link.
[Piers Morgan tweets] Best 7 minutes of television this year. Thank you, Mr Maher, for being an ongoing voice of liberal reason in this increasingly insane illiberal woke world.
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well, he ain't wrong
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I had this discussion with a friend the other day. I suspect there are people of whatever proclivity (and I'm sure that label will offend someone) who are too busy being happy to give a care about the culture wars. OTOH, there are people who are chronic complainers or perpetually angry. How many of those do you think took up a woke-approved lifestyle label because they saw it as a license to indulge their non-stop unhappiness with everything except themselves?
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Commissar Maher feels his power over his people is slipping away, hence the diatribes.
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I think you're right murckek. misery loves company
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[The Last Refuge] David Plouffe is the former campaign manager for Barack Obama, a senior advisor to all current politicians who are connected to that Obama network, and a senior strategist of influence in the entire network of people pulling the strings of puppet and avatar for Obama’s third-term, Joe Biden.
Plouffe is paid and funded by the corporate system, private companies and allies within the multinational sector, for his leverage and influence within the entire political apparatus. Today Plouffe is signaling his political allies [Tweet Here], those actual foot-soldiers who corrupted the 2020 election, they will have to re-double their efforts in 2022 if they are going to pull-off another election construct similar to the fraud they executed in 2020.
So quadruple the effort they put forth in 2016, in the hope of not losing their bare majority in the House and half the seats in the Senate? At the same time as many of the Republican states have tightened up their procedures to prevent shenanigans? Fascinating.
Plouffe is the kind of person who would select the 7 key urban areas that needed the specific targeting for local election fraud: Atlanta (GA), Phoenix (AZ), Detroit (MI), Clark County (NV), Philadelphia (PA), Madison (Wisc), etc. Plouffe plots the map and turns it over to folks like Bob Creamer (see Project Veritas expose’).
As a consequence of the transparent voter fraud, some states have taken defensive action against the mail-in ballot scheme; others are still trying. The DOJ (Garland) is attempting to block those voter integrity measures. The institutional network (government and media) is pushing the Delta Variant (mid-term variant) to keep the 2020 deployed gateway open for 2022. David Plouffe is signaling the crew to be prepared to go even one-step further in 2022.
[OneIndia] There have been a spate of killings in Jammu and Kashmir ...a disputed territory lying between India and Pakistain. After partition, the Paks grabbed half of it and call it Azad (Free) Kashmir. The remainder they refer to as "Indian Occupied Kashmir". They have fought four wars with India over it, the score currently 4-0 in New Delhi's favor. After 72 years of this nonsense, India cut the Gordian knot in 2019, removing the area's special status, breaking off Ladakh as a separate state, and allowing people from other areas to settle (or in the case of the Pandits, to resettle) there.... and if one were to see the trend, the gunnies are attacking soft targets. There has been a sustained effort to create a fear in the minds of the people ever since the abrogation of Article 370 in J&K.
The National Investigation Agency in its latest report had said that the killing of the Parihar brothers was a clear attempt to revive terrorism in the Chenab Valley. While the forces have attained a great deal of success in neutralising terrorists, attempts are still on to revive terror on a much larger scale in the Union Territory.
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[news.com.au] People who claim they were cured of coronavirus by hydroxychloroquine have come forward in support of doctors who have been "attacked" for saying the controversial drug works.
Dr Stella Immanuel, one of the doctors who went viral for saying she’d cured COVID-19, took to Twitter to ask for people’s help, with friends and family of survivors also coming forward.
"We are being attacked, ridiculed and discredited," she said.
"We need our patients to SPEAK UP. If you have been cured by this drug, share your story online using this hashtag. #HCQWorks."
The Houston GP said she had successfully treated more than 350 coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Zithromax, an antibiotic used to treat bacterial infections.
Hydroxychloroquine is used for treatment of malaria and certain auto-immune diseases but doctors have claimed it works for COVID-19.
It’s also gained the support of President Donald Trump and other politicians.
In Australia its use for treatment of COVID-19 is considered "off-label".
"There is currently no clear data to inform clinical guidance on the use, dosing, or duration for COVID-19 treatment," the Therapeutic Goods Administration says.
#5
pretty solid results with Ivermectin in past few months; other drugs not advanced but some show lots of promise
the clinical research with HCQ never really tested dosage very well
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Lord Garth, as I pointed out earlier, they were designed to "fail" by waiting until the patient was very sick and then administering an overdose of the medicine with the objective of "proving" it didn't work.
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there was a reason they were not tested by doses.
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#8
Well over 30 years they have waged a war on cancer. The common cold a similar effort but not nearly so expensive but now money is being thrown at that big time. People have found solutions and by word of mouth the information is passed. A medical doctor can only recommend FDA approved medical treatments. I recall a patient asked about vitamin E for her bruising.His response was I cannot recommend that then opens his desk draw but I take them. So each person must choose their own path. Media is so corrupted these days I prefer on the ground day to day person to person input of information. There are many different personalities. Some are sheep some are rams. I maintain a balance, a steady state. I trust my own judgement at this time being the most reliable. Absolutely no fear.
#9
A small group of Metro-Atlanta Fire Fighter / EMS / Hazmat severely infected with C-19 back in early May or June of 2020, were offered to be a part of a small test group of C-19 infected 1st responders.
They were given some "Test Drug" after signing a bunch of wavier pages.
According one of the participants that I know. He told me he was feeling better on the 2nd day. Clear headed and doing light work in the yard on day 5.
He was back at work after being bored and sitting on his butt for the mandatory 2 weeks.
So it seems we are not getting the FULL facts of viable Treatments options?
Why so?
I doubt we will ever know and that is the fallacy of having a Government and the Main Stream & Social Media managing "acceptable" public Info for Political reasons, agendas and raking in $$$$$ while doing it.
But, the Internet is steadily leaking the truth and is being found trusted by more citizens everyday, than what should be the Official and Trusted sources.
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