It’s not like it’s an effective defense against Israel’s F-35Is — as was demonstrated by Iran — so why give Russia the money?
[IsraelTimes] Kremlin denies Putin discussed issue with Erdogan during a meeting last week, as Ankara considers how best to bolster its fleet of aging aircraft...the occupiers of Greek Asia Minor...
is looking to return the S-400 air defense systems that it purchased from Russia in 2017, hoping that doing so will clear the way for it to purchase F-35 fighter jets from the United States, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday, citing Ottoman Turkish and Russian officials familiar with the matter.
According to the report, Turkey’s President His Enormity, Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdogan the First
...Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi but they voted him back in so they deserve him. It's a sin, a shame, and a felony to insult the president of Turkey. In Anatolia did Recep Bey a stately Presidential Palace decree, that has 1100 rooms. That's 968 more than in the White House, 400 more than in Versailles, and 325 more than Buckingham Palace, so you know who's really more important...
raised the issue with his Russian counterpart, President Vladimir Putin
...President-for-Life of Russia. He gets along well with other presidents for life. He is credited with bringing political stability and re-establishing something like the rule of law, which occasionally results in somebody dropping dead from poisoning by polonium or other interesting substance. Under Putin, a new group of business magnates controlling significant swathes of Russia's economy has emerged, all of whom have close personal ties to him. The old bunch, without close personal ties to Putin, are in jail or in exile or dead from poisoning by polonium or other interesting substances...
, when the pair met on the sidelines of a summit in Turkmenistan last week.
Ankara is also hoping to receive a refund if it returns the S-400 systems, Bloomberg reported, which could be granted in the form of discounted oil and natural gas imports from Russia.
The Kremlin denied the contents of the report on Thursday, saying that the matter of returning the S-400 systems "was not on the agenda" when the two leaders met. Turkey declined to comment on the report.
Turkey has expressed interest in buying a number of F-35 jets from the US, but it is currently barred from doing so due to its 2017 purchase of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems.
Which they did to spite President Trump, so this is extra amusing.
Last week, US Ambassador to Turkey Tom Barrack said that the countries were holding "fruitful" talks on the potential sale of the advanced stealth fighters."As laid out in US law, Turkey must no longer operate nor possess the S-400 system to return to the F-35 program," Barrack wrote on X.
And if Turkey chooses to beggar itself and waste donor funds for the ego-stroking purchase of very expensive F-35s that they still won’t fly as well as the IAF…
"The positive relationship between President Trump and President Erdogan has created a new atmosphere of cooperation, which has led to the most fruitful conversations we have had on this topic in nearly a decade," he said."Our hope is that these talks will yield a breakthrough in the coming months that meets both the security requirements of the United States and Turkey," Barrack added.
During US President Donald Trump
...Perhaps no man has ever had as much fun being president of the US...
’s first term, the US removed Turkey, a NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the cut of the American pants...
ally, from its flagship F-35 fighter jet program, after Ankara purchased the S-400 surface-to-air missile system from Russia. US officials worried that Turkey’s use of the missile defense system could be used to gather data on the capabilities of the F-35 and that the information could end up in Russian hands.
Israel has expressed concern in the past over the potential sale of the advanced F-35 fighter jets to Turkey and other nearby countries, as it is anxious to preserve its qualitative military edge in the region.
Today, Israel is the only country in the Middle East with F-35s in its arsenal, currently operating 45 of the aircraft with another 30 units on order.
Israel can afford ‘em, especially after cutting war costs with the addition of lasers to their ground game, and has their in-house improvements shared only with America once finalized.
However,alcohol has never solved anybody's problems. But then, neither has milk...
Trump recently announced the sale of F-35s to Saudi Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula, largely made up of sand and oil rigs. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual haj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. Formerly dictatorial and steeped in Olde Tyme Religion, deferring to Salafist holy men on all issues, it has now done a 180 and is making a serious effort to modernize, so as not to be left in the sand by its Gulf Arab neighbors. The holy men have been shoved to the background and the nation is now still dictatorial but somewhat rational. That doesn't make them trustworthy, but it's a start..., sparking worry in the Jewish state. US officials and defense experts have told Rooters that the jets to be sold to the Saudis will be less advanced than those used by the IDF.
In recent months, Turkey, which has the NATO alliance’s second-largest military, has aimed to leverage its best relations with the West in years to add to its aging fleet 40 Eurofighter Typhoons and later also US-made F-35 jets.
Ankara has seen success in its bid for new Eurofighter Typhoons, as British Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced in October that the UK would sell Turkey 20 new Eurofighters. Until those are ready, Turkey said it will acquire 12 Eurofighters from Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
and 12 from Oman to bolster its fleet.
Erdogan is one of the world’s most outspoken critics of Israel, often accusing Israel of genocide over the past two years of war, comparing it to Nazi Germany and likening Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Adolf Hitler
...late Fuehrer of Germany, founder of the Third Reich, currently communing with his pals Himmler and Heydrich. He is reincarnated every few days, sometimes every few hour if it's an election year, as a politician somebody doesn't like...
He has also cozied up to Hamas
..always the voice of sweet reason...
over the years, hosting brass hats and calling the terror group "freedom fighters."
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