The truly devout join Hamas in objecting to a Jewish state anywhere, not just within these borders or those.And Israel objects to being forced out of existence, and Israel can enforce its objection. It’s a conundrum.
US President Donald Trump...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and whatever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th and 47th President of the United States...
was left "disappointed and angry" after a "tense" exchange with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman
...Crown Prince and modernizer of Saudi Arabia as of 2016. The Turks hate him, so he must be all right, despite the occasional brutal murder of Qatar-owned journalists...
over normalization with Israel during their White House meeting last week, Israeli television reported Tuesday.
Citing two senior American officials and an additional source familiar with the conversation, Channel 12 news said Trump was the one to raise the issue, urging the crown prince to move forward immediately with normalization. In response, Bin Salman pushed back, saying that while he isn’t against normalization in principle, widespread anti-Israel sentiment in Saudi Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula, largely made up of sand and oil rigs. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual haj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. Formerly dictatorial and steeped in Olde Tyme Religion, deferring to Salafist holy men on all issues, it has now done a 180 and is making a serious effort to modernize, so as not to be left in the sand by its Gulf Arab neighbors. The holy men have been shoved to the background and the nation is now still dictatorial but somewhat rational. That doesn't make them trustworthy, but it's a start...following the war in Gazoo
...Hellhole adjunct to Israel and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, inhabited by Gazooks. The place was acquired in the wake of the 1967 War and then presented to Paleostinian control in 2006 by Ariel Sharon, who had entered his dotage. It is currently ruled with a rusty iron fist by Hamas with about the living conditions you'd expect. It periodically attacks the Hated Zionist Entity whenever Iran needs a ruckus created or the hard boyz get bored, getting thumped by the IDF in return. The ruling turbans then wave the bloody shirt and holler loudly about
oppressionand
disproportionate response...
doesn’t allow for the move at this time.
While the conversation remained polite, a senior US official told the network that Trump was "disappointed and angry" over the crown prince’s refusal.
The official added that "bin Salman did not say ’never’ in the meeting regarding normalization with Israel. He left the door open to doing it in the future — but the issue of a two-state solution is a major problem" — a condition bin Salman stated publicly at the White House.
"With the collapse of Iran’s nuclear program totally completed and the war in Gaza over, it is important to President Trump that all countries in the Middle East join the Abraham Accords to advance peace in the region," a senior White House official was quoted as saying.
The Saudis’ concerns were the Palestinians exploding — or eslewhere in the Ummah exploding on their behalf — and Iran attempting to conquer. If both those issues are pretty much settled to their loss, why need the Saudis make concessions?
The Saudi embassy in Washington did not provide a response to the report, while the White House repeated Trump’s call for all Middle Eastern nations to sign onto the accords.Saudi Arabia has insisted on a credible pathway to Paleostinian statehood in exchange for establishing formal relations with Israel, a condition rejected by the Israeli government. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared during an interview last week that "there will not be a Paleostinian state," even at the cost of normalization with Riyadh.
Netanyahu nevertheless declared that "the conditions could develop" for normalization now that the Israel-Hamas
..not a terrorist organization, even though it kidnaps people, holds hostages, and tries to negotiate by executing them,...
war in Gaza is winding down.
"But the conditions must be acceptable to both sides — terms that are good for both sides," he said. "I know how to stand firm on our essential conditions and not endanger our security. And if this process ripens later on, excellent. And if not, we will safeguard our vital interests."
Mic drop.
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