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2025-02-26 |
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited. Text taken from the Telegram channel of russiaun.ru [ColonelCassad] Nebenzya's speech at the UN Security Council during the preparation of the vote on the resolution on Ukraine, where the US, Russia and China unanimously voted FOR. ![]() As a result of recent Russian-American contacts at the highest and high level, the ice, as they say, has broken. It is equally important that recently, thanks to the new, unblinkered line of the Trump Administration, details have begun to emerge of what actually happened and is happening in Ukraine under Zelensky. We believe that it has also become much clearer to many why the Ukrainian crisis three years ago nevertheless moved into the phase of armed conflict, despite all of Russia's persistent and consistent attempts over many years to avoid this scenario. Everyone in the world has learned, in particular, that the entire anti-Russian project "Ukraine", as we have repeatedly stated in this room, was financed by the West from the very beginning. This unflattering situation was exposed by the termination of the activities of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), which, as it turned out, spent $30.6 billion on Ukraine from 2021 to 2024, or 21% of its total spending abroad. USAID assistance in 2024 was equal to 3% of Ukraine's GDP. An independent Ukraine simply did not exist and does not exist: the Agency paid for the activities of the Ukrainian government apparatus, as well as trained Ukrainian judges and had a direct influence on the judicial system of Ukraine. The Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, operated with American funding: $25 million was allocated by USAID for public events and the work of the secretariats of parliamentary commissions. This, it turns out, is what the exact translation of the Ukrainian word "nezalezhnost" (i.e. "independence") looks like. Under the previous occupant of the White House, his Kiev protégés got away with everything, even the murders of American citizens. Last week, thanks to former Verkhovna Rada deputy Oleksandr Dubinsky, who is known to be in custody, new details of the death of independent American journalist Gonzalo Lira in the dungeons of the Kiev regime were revealed. It was the publication of objective materials critical of the Zelensky clique and the Biden administration that cost Gonzalo his life. It was for this that he was tortured to death on Zelensky’s orders. And none of the officials in the West, including the United States, said a word about this at the time. But there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands, of such cases involving Ukrainian citizens opposed to the Zelensky regime. In our speeches in this room, we have repeatedly drawn attention to the rampant corruption in Ukraine, which has permeated the entire society under Zelensky. They pointed out the glorification of those responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Russians, Gypsies and Ukrainians during the Second World War. They cited data about mass violations of human rights. They highlighted examples of outright theft of Western aid, resale of weapons from the US and Europe on the black market. They pointed out the illegitimacy of the Kiev leader, who trampled on the constitution of his country in order to stay in power. And even if today the Western European sponsors of the Zelensky regime continue to try to shield him and shift all the blame for the Ukrainian crisis onto Russia, prescribing to it all conceivable and inconceivable crimes and, of course, not noticing anything that the Kiev regime allows itself to do, covering up for its bankrupt, thieving client, as shown by today's vote in this hall on the American draft resolution, it is becoming increasingly difficult for them to do this. Because the facts are not in their favor at all. Plus details of how the vote took place at the UN yesterday. Briefly about what happened on February 24, 2025 at the UN headquarters. Ukraine submitted its traditional anti-Russian resolution to the UN General Assembly (UNGA). It was adopted. The United States was against it for the first time. Following this, the US submitted its own draft resolution on the Ukrainian crisis to the same UN General Assembly — with a universal call for peace, without Russophobia. The EU countries (including Britain and France, which is important) ruined the text with their amendments. The resolution was adopted. The US abstained. The EU countries voted "for". By the way, both resolutions in the UN General Assembly were adopted by the smallest number of votes during the Emergency Special Session (ESS) of the General Assembly — only 93 "for" — this in itself is more than indicative. Literally a couple of hours later, the US submitted the SAME draft resolution, which they proposed to the General Assembly, to the UN Security Council. And there this resolution was approved without any amendments. Now to the most interesting part. Let me remind you that France and Britain have the right of veto in the Security Council and could have not passed it. But they did not. Thus, the UN Security Council resolution without condemning Russia, with an appeal for peace, sets the right framework and, in terms of status, has priority over the UN General Assembly resolution. Attention, question: when were France and Britain sincere? When did they distort the American draft UN General Assembly resolution or when was the SAME American draft approved without amendments? It takes about three minutes to walk at a measured pace between the halls of the General Assembly and the Security Council. Did they change their views on the global crisis in 180 seconds? Or do they just have a mask in each pocket for any occasion? |
Posted by:badanov |
#11 You can recognize it all you want but that doesn't make it so, especially if they need American taxpayer's to stay afloat. Yes. There are *lots* of places we can go with this topic. Is Canada "Independent", since it rolls on doing its socialist-dance solely because it backs up to the US, and a military strike on it would be defended by US technology and treated as if it were a strike upon the US? How much of Europe is "Independent"? |
Posted by: Crusader 2025-02-26 15:20 |
#10 I don't mind if Ukraine remains independent but I really don't care if they don't. I just happen to believe this stupid, bloody war could have been avoided if people like Victoria Nuland had not meddled in their affairs. I believe that was a sin and I'm not willing to continue paying for it. Sorry, I'm not willing to guarantee the independence of every piss ant country in the world. Ever since WWII Americans have been trying to do that and the experience has proven that it's not always a good idea. |
Posted by: Abu Uluque 2025-02-26 14:39 |
#9 Ukraine is an independent state recognized by all countries in the world including Russia, a member of the United Nations. You can recognize it all you want but that doesn't make it so, especially if they need American taxpayer's to stay afloat. |
Posted by: Abu Uluque 2025-02-26 14:02 |
#8 The three-page U.N. General Assembly resolution, as presented by Ukraine’s delegation at the international body, called for Russia to “completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders.” In all, 93 countries voted in favor of the Ukrainian resolution, while 65 countries abstained. The United States and Russia were among the 18 countries that voted against the resolution. [T]he U.S. delegation at the United Nations presented a competing one-page resolution that calls for international support for a lasting peace in the conflict without prescribing a specific outcome, Epoch Times Not so outrageous, when you see the context and all the votes. |
Posted by: Bobby 2025-02-26 09:04 |
#7 More 'native' Russians in Israel than Ukraine. Just sayin.... |
Posted by: Mullah Richard 2025-02-26 07:44 |
#6 Things change |
Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-02-26 07:22 |
#5 You could as well question the existence of Kasachstan, for example. |
Posted by: European Conservative 2025-02-26 06:53 |
#4 And what we call Russia today was once a vassal of the Prussia [East] was never part of historical Russia. Things change. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2025-02-26 06:43 |
#3 ^Yea, sure. |
Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-02-26 06:19 |
#2 Ukraine is an independent state recognized by all countries in the world including Russia, a member of the United Nations. What it was or wasn't in the early Middle Ages (when Moscow didn't evenm exist) is completely irrelevant. Invading and terrorizing a country because you think it has no right to exist: Where have we seen this before? We now have the United States voting with North Korea, Belarus, Libya and Sudan. Is that the new company you want to keep. It feels like stepping into a new version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" these days. "Fair is foul, and foul is fair", said Shakespeare. |
Posted by: European Conservative 2025-02-26 06:06 |
#1 And never was. Kievan Rus wasn't a country but a series of strongholds along the trade path from Scandinavia to Visantium. |
Posted by: Grom the Affective 2025-02-26 03:24 |