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Passing PT Tests Now Optional in the Navy
2024-06-27
[LegalInsurrection] In Latest Blow to Military Effectiveness, U.S. Navy Will No Longer Require Sailors to Pass Physical Fitness Tests.

Old standard forcing sailors out after 2 failed PT tests rescinded; Navy claims new rule has nothing to do with recruiting challenges

Uh huh. Pull the other one
Not having a failed PT test noted on a sailor’s annual evaluation is HUGE: This means promotion boards might now be promoting sailors to leadership ranks and positions who are fat and out-of-shape. Who cares, I guess.

And why the big push now to drop the “get in shape or get out” requirement? Does it have anything to do with the Navy’s abysmal recruiting (“U.S. Navy, Faced with Recruiting Nightmare, Begins Accepting High School Dropouts“) and retention numbers? Of course not!

The change, according to the message, is part of the Navy’s push to revamp its culture of leadership and service and is an effort to modernize “our PFA policy to acknowledge our diverse population, increase sailor trust, and enhance quality of service.”

I’m not sure if this new policy enhances the “quality” of a sailor’s service when they suffer no ill-consequences of being fat and out-of-shape to the point of not being required to pass the PT test (twice).

And what does it mean that the new policy “acknowledges” the Navy’s “diverse population”? Are they saying that minority sailors can’t pass the PT test? Sounds pretty racist to me.

And, while the previous policy might seem a bit onerous, it has already been loosened up over the years in a number of significant ways:

It is the latest in a series of changes to the fitness test that has come in recent years.

In February, the sea service announced that it was resetting the counter on PFA failures fleet-wide, enabling up to 1,500 sailors to keep serving.

In November, the Navy decided to ditch a postpartum PFA that new mothers would typically be expected to take less than a year after giving birth.

Ever since emerging from the restrictions of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Navy has also kept to the pandemic-era change of conducting only one PFA per year instead of two. Tuesday’s message also continues this trend into 2025.
Posted by:Gloluns Turkeyneck4904

#13  "If it ain't rainin' you ain't trainin'"

- Tom Clancy
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-06-27 11:45  

#12  Well done on all counts Bangkok Billy and I certainly applaud the attitude. They may well get me, too. But it won't be due to a lack of effort.

The thing about a PT test, you can't cram for it. The only preparation is character and discipline displayed over time.

Displayed when you don't feel like it, when training isn't going right, it's raining/snowing/crazy windy, when you're hurt or sick.

It's why physical fitness commands respect at all ages.
Posted by: Cesare   2024-06-27 11:18  

#11  /\ Had a buddy that did nearly the same as USN Ret, but built in enough time on the 2 mile run to stop and light up a Lucky Strike before he crossed the line.
Posted by: Besoeker   2024-06-27 10:51  

#10  If you fall into deep water, swimming is also optional.

Because the recruits they want are not in shape or maybe don't even know how to swim, and then there are those who are in the Navy for reasons other than service who now no longer have to be bothered by such a thing.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2024-06-27 10:42  

#9  With retirement date set, I still had do do the required test. So minimum situps, pushps, and used every last second for the run; stopped just short of the line and stepped across w/2seconds to spare. The coordinator was laughing his butt off.
And just why did the Navy mandate a 1.5 mile run; ain’t no carrier with a flight deck that big……
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2024-06-27 10:18  

#8  I put my pants on this morning without falling over... both legs
Posted by: Mercutio   2024-06-27 10:00  

#7  #! That's great if you weight 102 pounds.
Posted by: Huputle+Cherelet4131   2024-06-27 09:35  

#6  I couldn't do 58 sit downs in 2 min...
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2024-06-27 07:45  

#5  Regardless of age, impressive indeed Billy.
Posted by: Besoeker   2024-06-27 04:56  

#4  I could do that

35 years ago....maybe
Posted by: Frank G   2024-06-27 04:13  

#3  Thanks - I take my fitness, shooting, and driving seriously. Been fortunate to have some great shooting and driver training. Stuff that money can’t buy. I might lose but it won’t be because I didn’t train n stay fit.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2024-06-27 03:07  

#2  Pretty damned good.
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-06-27 02:11  

#1  Took mine last week:
58 sit ups in 2 minutes
68 pushups in 2 minutes
13:38 1.5 mile run

Passed with flying colors in the grey beard category.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2024-06-27 01:52  

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