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| MH17 some curious points to imagine and ponder |
| 2014-07-19 |
| by Anon1 Imagine MH370 being downed was a trial run. Just a test - so no group claimed responsibility when it vanished. Perhaps downed by people with access to Malaysia Airlines planes like ground crew or other staff, mechanics or pilots Now imagine they then downed MH17 on purpose over eastern Ukraine Everybody will blame Russia because Russia has been downing Ukrainian planes and arming rebel groups to claim plausible deniability It is most logical to think it is either an accident from one of those groups, or from Russia. It is also logical to assume that both Russia and its militias would be stupid and enough to screw up the crash scene, contaminating it. Putin, an ex-KGB thug, will blame Ukraine and try to score political points at home, and censor the media - as he has done. Looking guilty as sin. All of that ensures more blame to Russia. All predictable and thus able to be manipulated. It has thus set the scene for confrontation between Nato/ the US and Russia So - Who benefits from such a conflict? Here are a few thought doodles, i am intersted to read what others might think: Indonesia - islamist backers of war criminal Prabowo Subianto who is about to lose the presidential election. Votes are being counted now. Prabowo has the contacts and expertise as he is ex-army and ex-intel. His minions poisoned an Indonesian human rights activist Munir Thalib flying Garuda to Amsterdam in 2004. Arsenic in the orange juice. An off-duty airline pilot was sentenced to 14 years jail. So he has the capability. He has infiltrated Muslim airlines before. What would he gain? Such a conflict would keep the world busy elsewhere if Prabowo wants to stage another coup like Suharto before him. Prabowo knows that the US only turns a blind eye to Indonesian attrocities when it needs Jakarta strategically such as in the cold war as a bulwark against communism. Without major geopolitical tension, in 1999 the US withdrew support for Suharto's genocide and East Timor was freed. For a coup to work, Prabowo needs international conflict to draw the US elsewhere to remove the threat of intervention. The pan-Islamist movement On the march in every corner of the world. Richly funded by petrodollars and in control of several large countries. Malaysia has also been its stomping ground before for a similar plot to down passenger airlines: operation bojinka What would it win? It would set two enemies to fight each other while the Caliphate entrenches itself and grows. This ideology is an evil religious threat and very powerful. Iran Already shown to be an arch manipulator in dragging the US into Iraq with false Intel. With the new Sunni caliphate rising in the region, Iran may now want to make moves in Iraq. To keep the US out would mean keeping it very busy with Russia. China keeps its enemies busy fighting each other, enabling it to explore more options in the south China sea without resistance from the US Putin/Russia sparks the confrontation he wants with plausible deniability that he is directly to blame His popularity soars at home A very dangerous man. Ukraine With the world blaming Russia it can finally hope to get help in protecting its territory from invasion. Has the most to win. To set against this ukraine has consistently behaved in a very restrained, sympathetic and transparent manner. I don't think they did it. North Korea The hermit kingdom might like to see the US embroiled elsewhere. Not sure why but when has North Korea ever been logical? Chinese support has been waning lately so it is time for a temper tantrum Or: ockhams razor. The most simple explanation is likely the most correct. That Russia gave missile launchers to rebels who didn't know how to use them properly. They thought it was a Ukrainian plane they shot down but - whoops - it was a passenger jet. Then with further idiocy they contaminate the crash scene and look guilty as hell in their attempts to cover up. I think this is true. But still, it is interesting that it is again Malaysian Airlines.... Are there any other thoughts and imaginings that Rantbug denizens might share? |
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| Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2014-07-19 20:52 |
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