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India-Pakistan
Nisar cautions ex-officials to be careful in issuing statements
2014-07-03
[DAWN] In an apparent reaction to a former Army spokesperson's remarks, regarding Gen (retd) Ashfaq Parvez Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
's reluctance in launching a military offensive in North Wazoo in 2010, Federal Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan
...Currently the Interior Minister of Pakistain. He is the senior leader of the Pak Moslem League (N) and a close aide to Nawaz Uncle Fester Sharif. He is noted for his vocal anti-American railing in the National Assembly. However (comma) Khan told the U.S. ambassador that he was in fact pro-American but he and the PML-N would have to be critical of US actions in order to remain publicly credible. Khan cited his wife and children's US citizenship as proof, which means he's lying to one side or the other and probably both. He wears a wig, but you probably guessed that. since hair doesn't grow naturally in that shape or texture...
on Wednesday reprimanded the retired officials to be careful in issuing statements, DawnNews reported.

In an interview to BBC Urdu on Monday, former DG Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Maj Gen (retd) Athar Abbas had said that the military leadership of the country was in favour of launching the offensive in 2010, however, it could not due to the indecision of Gen Kayani.

In a statement issued here today, Chaudhry Nisar advised those who have been a part of important national decisions to be 'reticent.'

"Being tactful and strategic is better for the nation and the country," he added.
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India-Pakistan
Zarb-i-Azb: More IED factories, explosives recovered in NWA
2014-07-03
[DAWN] Pakistain Army claims on Wednesday that three more IED making factories with large quantity of explosives, anti-tank mines, a jacket wallah training center, a media facility and a rocket cache were recovered from the cleared area in North Wazoo Agency during the military offensive.

A front man for the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) told Dawn.com that Operation Zarb-e-Azb was progressing successfully as planned as six IEDs attached with four computers in a ready position were also recovered from a private hotel in the area.

"Forces are making swift progress in NWA as forces are hitting and shelling murderous Moslem hubs and hide outs," he said.

Sources said sniffer dogs are also being used in the cleared areas to find hidden explosives in the tribal agency bordering Afghanistan.

Meanwhile,
...back at the buffalo wallow, Yellow Wolf clutched at his chest and fell from his horse...
former DG ISPR Major General (retd) Athar Abbas demanded that the military should give access to the media to such areas which have been cleared by the troops.

Earlier, Pak military helicopters shelled murderous Moslem hideouts in Khar Warsak area of Miranshah
... headquarters of al-Qaeda in Pakistain and likely location of Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Haqqani network has established a ministate in centered on the town with courts, tax offices and lots of madrassas...
, killing 10 myrmidons.

Nearly 500,000 people have fled the offensive in North Waziristan, which is aimed at wiping out longstanding murderous Moslem strongholds in the area, which borders Afghanistan.

Tens of thousands of families have left for the town of Bannu, close to North Waziristan, while hundreds more have moved further afield to the towns of Lakki Marwat, Karak and Dera Ismail Khan
... the Pearl of Pashtunistan ...
since the Operation Zarb-e-Azb began in mid-June.
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India-Pakistan
NWA operation: Kiyani 'backtracked' at last minute in 2011
2014-07-01
[Pak Daily Times] Former ISPR DG Maj Gen (r) Athar Abbas has disclosed that the army was on the brink of launching a military offensive in North Wazoo three years ago, but the then army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
was reluctant to do so.

In an interview with the BBC, Abbas said that the military leadership had given the go-head for an operation in North Waziristan in 2010, and preparations for it were made for one year, but it was cancelled at the last minute due to Gen Kayani's indecisiveness. "It had been decided in principle that preparations for the operation would take place between 2010 and 2011, and that it would be launched in 2011 to rid North Waziristan of bully boyz once and for all," Abbas said.

When asked whether the reason behind his reluctance to give the final approval for the operation was due to his own weaknesses, Abbas agreed, saying yes. "He was very reluctant when it came to the North Waziristan operation. Kayani thought the decision to launch the operation would reflect on his personality and people would take it as his personal decision, which is why he kept delaying the operation," said the former DG ISPR. Abbas further said that delay in launching the military offensive in North Waziristan has complicated matters, as the forces of Evil have strengthened their position in the area and have also established contact with other bully boy groups.
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India-Pakistan
Trader killed, sabotage bid foiled in Peshawar
2014-05-02
[DAWN] PESHAWAR: Unidentified armed persons rubbed out a trader in Akhtunabad area while an improvised bomb was defused in Shad Bagh Colony here on Wednesday.

An official of Pando cop shoppe said that the killed trader was identified as Syed Athar Abbas Zaidi, a resident of Kochi Bazaar. He was on way to his home when unidentified gunnies targeted him with a pistol, he added.

Quoting Syed Asghar Ali Shah, a relative of the dear departed, the official said that the trader was injured in the attack and departed this vale of tears in Lady Reading Hospital.

"He was a businessman and had no enmity," the complainant said. He added that the attackers would be nominated in the case whenever a clue was found in that regard.

Police also foiled a sabotage bid by defusing an improvised bomb (IED) planted outside a house at Shad Bagh Colony.

An official of Yakatoot cop shoppe said that the device was planted outside residence of Daud Khan, who worked abroad. He said that the device was packed in a ghee canister but personnel of bomb disposal unit defused it timely.

AIG Shafqat Malik said that the explosive weighed about two kilograms. A case against unidentified gunnies was registered at Yakatoot cop shoppe.

ARMS SEIZED: Police seized a cache of arms and ammunitions and placed in durance vile
Yez got nuttin' on me, coppers! Nuttin'!
an alleged smuggler and impounded a motorcar in Mattani area.

Police said that they stopped a motorcar, coming from tribal area to Beautiful Downtown Peshawar
...capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (formerly known as the North-West Frontier Province), administrative and economic hub for the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. Peshawar is situated near the eastern end of the Khyber Pass, convenient to the Pak-Afghan border. Peshawar has evolved into one of Pakistan's most ethnically and linguistically diverse cities, which means lots of gunfire.
city, and recovered eight Kalashnikovs, 80 pistols, two repeaters and 4,600 cartridges from its secret cavities.

Police said that an arms smuggler Irshad, a resident of Jhagra, was arrested on the spot while his two accomplices managed to escape.

Meanwhile,
...back at the precinct house, Sergeant Maloney wasn't buying it. It was just too pat. The whole thing smelled phony, kind of like a dead mackeral but without the scales...
several suspected persons were arrested in the limits of Khan Raziq cop shoppe.

Sources said that names of the arrested persons could not be ascertained. They were travelling in a motorcar having registration number of Islamabad and police took them into custody for interrogation, they added.
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India-Pakistan
Taliban assault on Kamra airbase foiled
2012-08-17
ISLAMABAD: Nine terrorists were killed when security forces foiled their attack on PAF base Minhas in Kamra early on Thursday. A security official was also killed and a plane damaged in the pre-dawn assault claimed by the Taliban.
No doubt Uncle Sugar will be asked to provide a replacement for the plane...
PAF said nine attackers dressed in military uniforms and armed with rocket propelled-grenades and suicide vests targeted the base and adjacent Pakistan Aeronautical Complex at 2am. The adjacent complex assembles Mirage and, with Chinese help, JF-17 fighter jets.

"Eight terrorists miscreants were killed inside the Minhas base boundary wall and one splodydope miscreant exploded himself outside the perimeters where he was hiding," the air force announced.

It said there had been a shootout "for more than two hours", and 10 hours after the assault began, spokesman Tariq Mahmood confirmed the base was "totally safe".

The Taliban said planes at the base were being used to kill their fighters.
Nah, the Pak air force doesn't do that. They're all dedicated to fighting the evil Hindoooz...
That's Hinjoooz, my dear. The J must be pronounced with the glee of a vandal.
Their spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan dedicated the attack to late al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden
Now serving as shark food...
and claimed four Taliban fighters were killed after destroying three aircraft and killing a dozen soldiers.

A PAF spokesman said Base Commander Air Commodore Muhammad Azam, who was leading the operation against the terrorists, also received a bullet injury.

An air force statement said Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt had appointed a four-member board of inquiry headed by Air Marshal Syed Athar Hussain Bukhari.

Witnesses said the attackers came from the back, scaling the wall and exploiting the holiest night of Ramazan to remain undetected as long as possible.

"Most of the male residents (from the village at the back) were in mosques for special prayers," local resident Athar Abbas told a TV channel.

"I heard three or four explosions, there was heavy gunfire also," he said, adding, "It appears that the militants arrived using a village track and climbed over the wall."
Great perimeter security, guys...
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India-Pakistan
Maj Gen Bajwa takes over as military spokesman
2012-06-05
[Dawn] Major General Asim Saleem Bajwa on Monday assumed charge as the front man for the armed forces, taking over from the outgoing DG ISPR Major General Athar Abbas.
... who is The Very Model of a Modern Major General...
Bajwa was appointed as the Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) earlier in April to take over the position from Abbas after he retires in June.

Bajwa was posted in Dera Ismail Khan
... the Pearl of Pashtunistan ...
as a general officer commanding for the past two years. Under Bajwa's leadership, the army conducted military operations against hard boyz in the South Wazoo tribal region.

Prior to that, he served as the deputy military secretary under Former President General (retd) Pervez Perv Musharraf
... former dictator of Pakistain, who was less dictatorial and corrupt than any Pak civilian government to date ...
. It is believed that Bajwa, who has also commanded the 111 Brigade, played an active role in the publication of the Urdu edition of Musharraf's controversial autobiography 'In the Line of Fire'.

He holds a Masters degree in Defence Studies from Kings College London UK & MSc War Studies from NDU, Islamabad. He is also the recipient of Tamgha-e-Basalat.
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India-Pakistan
The Drone Debate
2012-05-20
President Asif Ali President Ten Percent Zardari
... sticky-fingered husband of the late Benazir Bhutto ...
told a senior US official last month that drone attacks in Pakistain's tribal areas were counterproductive. He said they provoked anti-America sentiments in Pakistain because of the collateral damage.

"Drone Attacks are counterproductive and useless," the president told US Special Envoy for Pakistain and Afghanistan, Mark Grossman, in his last meeting with him.
"Drone Attacks are counterproductive and useless," the president told US Special Envoy for Pakistain and Afghanistan, Mark Grossman, in his last meeting with him.

President of Tribal Union of Journalists, Safdar Dawar, disagrees with President Zardari. He believes most drone attacks have eliminated Death Eaters from Al Qaeda, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP) and other outfits linked with them.
President of Tribal Union of Journalists, Safdar Dawar, disagrees with President Zardari. He believes most drone attacks have eliminated Death Eaters from Al Qaeda, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP) and other outfits linked with them.

"Even Taliban sources admit that drone attacks kill their leaders. They speak to us after almost every strike," he says. "But the families who provide shelter to the targets (of drones) are also killed in these attacks."

Safdar hails from North Wazoo and is a witness to several post-drone attack situations. He believes the human intelligence helping the CIA find their targets is quite accurate. "I cannot believe that they do it on their own. I think our intelligence agencies are helping the CIA."

The intelligence agencies deny they provide the on-ground intelligence assistance for drone attacks. Military front man Maj Gen Athar Abbas has repeatedly stated that drones were causing more harm than good.

Recently, a joint sitting of the Parliament approved a wide range of foreign policy recommendations that included demanding a formal apology from the United Sates over last November's attack on two Pak border posts in Salala (Mohmmand Agency). The Parliament also asked the US to stop drone strikes, which they said were a blatant attack on Pakistain's illusory sovereignty. The US has not entertained either of the two key demands so far.

On the contrary, the US government has warned Pakistain it will stop all civil and military aid if Pak does not re-open the NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A single organization with differing goals, equipment, language, doctrine, and organization....
supply routes. Analysts in Pakistain are divided over the opening of the supply routes. Some say the embargo must end for Pakistain to maintain a stable relationship with the world community, while others do not want the government to succumb to US pressure. The opposition Pakistain Moslem League-Nawaz and the reactionary Pakistain Defence Council appear to be on the same wavelength.

The first drone attack in Pakistain was presumably made in June 2004 to kill thug leader Nek Muhammad Wazir. The killing quashed controversial Shakai peace deal between the Death Eaters and Pakistain Army.

Statistics of New America Foundation show that since 2004, the CIA carried out around 300 drone attacks in Pakistain, killing 2,700 people including civilians.
Statistics of New America Foundation show that since 2004, the CIA carried out around 300 drone attacks in Pakistain, killing 2,700 people including civilians. The Bureau of Investigative Journalists puts the total number of drone attacks slightly more than 300 and the total number of deaths more than 3,000.

"It is important to reiterate that any reduction in terrorist activity associated with the drone campaign appears modest in scope. Although a decline in violence in FATA in 2010 coincided with the peak of the drone campaign, FATA Death Eaters remain active and violence remains high. To the extent drone strikes work, their effectiveness is more likely to lie in disrupting thug operations at the tactical level than as a silver bullet that will reverse the course of the war and singlehandedly defeat Al Qaeda," read a February 2012 research paper by Rand Corporation, titled 'The Impact of US Drone Strikes on Terrorism in Pakistain'.

President Zardari is representing Pakistain in the Chicago Conference, which will decide the future role of the military alliance in Afghanistan. Much of that has already been decided in the recent strategic agreement between Kabul and Washington, signed on the death anniversary of the late Osama bin Laden
... who went titzup one dark and stormy night...
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India-Pakistan
Pakistani troops dig for 117 missing in avalanche
2012-04-08
Follow-up from yesterday's story. Read also the very useful Outside Magazine story, link courtesy of Besoeker from yesterday's comments.
ISLAMABAD: Pakistani soldiers dug into a massive avalanche in a mountain battleground close to the Indian border on Saturday, searching for at least 117 of their colleagues buried when the wall of snow engulfed a military complex.

More than 12 hours after the disaster at the entrance to the Siachen Glacier, no survivors had been found.

“We are waiting for news and keeping our fingers crossed,” said army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas.

Hundreds of troops, sniffer dogs and mechanical equipment were at the scene, but were struggling to make much headway into the avalanche, which crashed down onto the rear headquarters building in the Gayari sector early in the morning, burying it under some 70 meters (75 yards) of snow, said Abbas.

“It’s on a massive scale,” he said. “Everything is completely covered.”

Siachen is on the northern tip of the divided Kashmir region claimed by both India and Pakistan. The thousands of troops from both nations stationed there brave viciously cold temperatures, altitude sickness, high winds and isolation for months at a time. Troops have been deployed at elevations of up to 6,700 meters (22,000 feet) and have skirmished intermittently since 1984, though the area has been quiet since a cease-fire in 2003. The glacier is known as the world’s highest battlefield.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani expressed his shock at the incident, which he said “would in no way would undermine the high morale of soldiers and officers.”

The headquarters in Gayari, situated at around 4,572 meters (15,000 feet) is the main gateway through which troops and supplies pass on their to other more remote outposts in the sector. It is situated in a valley between two high mountains, close to a military hospital, according to an officer who was stationed there in 2003.

“I can’t comprehend how an avalanche can reach that place,” said the officer. “It was supposed to be safe.”

More soldiers have died from the weather than combat on the glacier, which was uninhabited before troops moved there.

Conflict there began in 1984 when India occupied the heights of the 78-kilometer (49-mile)-long glacier, fearing Pakistan wanted to claim the territory. Pakistan also deployed its troops. Both armies remain entrenched despite the cease-fire, costing the poverty-stricken countries many millions of dollars each year.
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India-Pakistan
Swiss couple 'escape' from Taliban captivity
2012-03-17
[Dawn] A Swiss couple kidnapped from Balochistan
...the Pak province bordering Kandahar and Uruzgun provinces in Afghanistan and Sistan Baluchistan in Iran. Its native Baloch propulation is being displaced by Pashtuns and Punjabis and they aren't happy about it...
in July last year beat feet from Taliban captivity in North Wazoo, officials said on Thursday.

Olivier David Och and Daniela Widmer were brought to Beautiful Downtown Peshawar by a military helicopter. They were taken to the Corps Headquarters for questioning. They stayed there for some time before leaving for Islamabad.

Officials said that the couple had reported to security forces at the Thall checkpost on Esha-Razmak Road early in the morning. Sources said they had been left at a place some 100 metres from the checkpost.

The sources were not in a position to state with certainty if the couple had really beat feet or they had been 'released'. And if released then on what ground.

The banned Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain (TTP), which had grabbed credit for their kidnapping from Loralai, were quiet.

Military officials quoted the Swiss nationals as saying that they had beat feet late in the night and reached the checkpost in the Spilga area, about 12 km south of Miranshah
... headquarters of al-Qaeda in Pakistain and likely location of Ayman al-Zawahiri. The Haqqani network has established a ministate in centered on the town with courts, tax offices and lots of madrassas...

The couple's claim and the official version could not be verified from independent sources who said that back-channel negotiations had taken place for securing their release.

According to military front man Maj Gen Athar Abbas, the couple stated that they had beat feet from the kidnappers.

Prof Ajmal Khan, the kidnapped vice-chancellor of Peshawar's Islamia College University, indicated in a video released by his captors on March 7 that the government and the TTP had reached a deal for release of the Swiss couple.

Prof Khan, who has been in the Taliban captivity for 18 months, said in the video message that the government had agreed to release 100 imprisoned Taliban in exchange of the Swiss couple's release. Besides, he said, millions of rupees would be paid as ransom.

Having reached Rawalpindi, the couple appeared to be in good health. They were smiling and waving to photographers as they walked through the airbase where the helicopter had landed.

David Och was sporting a beard and wearing Shalwar-Kameez, white cap and joggers. Daniela Widmer was in a light pink shirt and black trousers with a scarf around her neck.

After disembarking from the helicopter, they got into a blue van waiting for them at the Qasim airbase. Swiss embassy officials and security personnel accompanied them when they left for Islamabad.

AFP adds: Officials said they were found at a checkpost in the tribal belt on the Afghan border, but the nature of their release was clouded in mystery and there were claims that they beat feet.

They were seen by journalists for the first time at the Qasim airbase in Rawalpindi where they were not permitted to speak.

Both stepped into a minibus and witnesses later told AFP they were driven away from the airbase with embassy officials.

"They are safe and sound," Major General Athar Abbas
... who is The Very Model of a Modern Major General...
told AFP. "They told us that they beat feet and then they reported to our checkpost.

That's what they told intelligence agencies currently debriefing them."

The details surrounding the couple's recovery were unclear and senior Taliban capos could not be reached.

"The Swiss ambassador to Pakistain is in direct contact with them and was satisfied they were not injured and that their health, given the circumstances, is good," the Swiss foreign ministry said in a statement.

The couple were in a safe place and their return to Switzerland
...home of the Helvetians, famous for cheese, watches, yodeling, and William Tell...
was planned as soon as possible, it said.

Foreign Minister Didier Burkhalter thanked the Pak authorities "for their commitment and support in this matter", the ministry said.

In October, a video emerged of the couple -- apparently in relatively good health -- flanked by four masked gunnies pointing rifles at their heads.

Wali-ur Rehman, deputy head of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain that is linked to Al Qaeda, had claimed the kidnapping, telling AFP in July that they were in "a very safe place" and that they were "completely in good health".

According to visas stamped in their passports, the couple arrived in Pakistain from India on June 28.

They entered Balochistan from Punjab and may have been heading for Quetta, possibly en route to Iran, officials in Islamabad have said.

Their blue Volkswagen van was found abandoned in Loralai district.
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India-Pakistan
Wikileaks: Stratfor Affairs
2012-03-03
Wikileaks has begun publishing millions of emails from global espionage and intelligence contractor Stratfor, dating between 2004 and 2011.
Believing everything you read in Stratfor is like believing everything you read in Debka...
"You have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase," CEO George Friedman told Stratfor analyst Reva Bhalla on 6 December 2011 in an email on how to exploit an Israeli intelligence informant providing information on the medical condition of the President of Venezuala Hugo Chavez.

In another email, about the 19 Pakistani brigadiers promoted to major generals, Stratfor member and journalist Kamran Bokhari says: "We have a source among these 19 and he is a rising star within the hierarchy, and is seen as having a really good shot at the top job."

In a conversation with Kamran Bokhari, Fred Burton said "mid to senior level ISI and [Pakistani military officers] with one retired [Pakistan Army] general" had "knowledge of the OBL arrangements and safe house." He said their names and ranks were unknown. "But, I get a very clear sense we know names and ranks. I also do not know if we have passed this info to the [government of Pakistan]. If I was in command, I would not pass the info to the GOP because we can't trust them. I would piece meal the names off and bury in a list of other non-related names for internal ISI traces in a non-alerting fashion, to see what the [Pakistanis] tell us. I may also trade one or two names for the captured tail rudder."

Bokhari wrote in response: "You know this reminds me of a discussion I had on NPR's Diane Rehm Show back in July '07. I was on with Peter Brookes (former deputy assistant secretary of defense for Asian and Pacific affairs in the second Bush administration) and the State Dept's current CT Coordinator, Daniel Benjamin. These two guys kept saying how ObL was in the tribal belt while I argued that he was much deeper in K-P province. God knows how many years were wasted chasing [him] in the tribal belt."

Pakistan Army strongly denied the statements. According to a news agency, its spokesman Major Gen Athar Abbas said in a statement that he rejected the "so-called leaks" and that "they are nothing but a baseless fabrication".

"These kinds of charges are not new," he said in the statement. "These leaks are actually old wine in new bottle."

The emails also contain information about the US government's attacks on Julian Assange and Wikileaks, and Stratfor's own attempt to subvert Wikileaks. There are more than 4000 emails mentioning Wikileaks alone.

The leaked information shows how private intelligence agencies works, and how they target individuals for their corporate and government clients.

For example, Stratfor monitored and analysed the online activities of Bhopal activists, including the "Yes Men" for the US chemical giant Dow Chemical. The activists seek redress for the 1984 Dow Chemical/Union Carbide gas disaster in Bhopal, India. The disaster led to thousands of deaths, and affected more than half a million people, with lasting environmental damage.

Stratfor did realise that its routine use of secret cash bribes to get information from insiders is risky. In August 2011, Stratfor CEO George Friedman confidentially told his employees: "We are retaining a law firm to create a policy for Stratfor on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. I don't plan to do the perp walk and I don't want anyone here doing it either."
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India-Pakistan
Pakistan rejects US probe into border deaths
2011-12-23
[Dawn] Pak military Thursday rejected the conclusions of a US investigation into a NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A single organization with differing goals, equipment, language, doctrine, and organization....
Arclight airstrike that killed two dozen Pak soldiers last month along the Afghanistan-Pakistain border.

US officials, unveiling the results of their investigation into the Nov. 25-26 incident that has enraged Paks, said both sides were to blame and said the soldiers' deaths were partly rooted in miscommunication and misunderstandings.

Mighty Pak Army front man Major General Athar Abbas
... who is The Very Model of a Modern Major General...
said Pakistain does not agree with the US findings because they are "short on facts."
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India-Pakistan
Pakistan steps up rhetoric over lethal Nato raid
2011-11-29
[Dawn] Pakistain vowed no more "business as usual" with the United States after NATO
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis....
strikes killed 24 Pak soldiers, but stopped short on Monday of threatening to break the troubled alliance altogether.

NATO and the United States had sought to limit the fallout of Saturday's attack as Pakistain shut vital supply routes to the 140,000 foreign troops serving in Afghanistan and ordered a review of its US alliance.

Washington has backed a full inquiry and sent its condolences, while NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen on Sunday voiced regret over the "tragic, unintended" killings, but did not issue a full apology.

In response Pakistain has dug in its heels, reacting furiously to what it called an "unprovoked" strike, worsening US-Pak relations already in crisis after the killing in May of the late Osama bin Laden
... who is now sometimes referred to as Mister Bones...
north of Islamabad by US special forces.

In an interview with CNN, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani
... Pakistain's erstwhile current prime minister, whose occasional feats of mental gymnastics can be awe-inspiring ...
said incidents such as at the NATO cross-border attack further alienated the Pak masses, leaving his government isolated in its unpopular alliance with the US.

"Business as usual will not be there, therefore we have to have something bigger so that to satisfy my nation, the entire country," he said in English.

Asked whether the US-Pak alliance can continue, he replied: "That can continue on mutual respect and mutual interest", adding that both were currently lacking.

"If I can't protect the illusory sovereignty of my country how can we say it's a mutual respect and mutual interest?"

It remains unclear what happened at the dead of night in some of the most hostile terrain on Earth. Afghan and Western officials reportedly said the Paks opened fire first. Pakistain insists the attack was unprovoked.

NATO and Afghan forces "were fired on from a Mighty Pak Army base", a Western official told the Wall Street Journal. "It was a defensive action." An Afghan border police commander, speaking on condition of anonymity
... for fear of being murdered...
as officials have been told not to speak to media before an investigation is completed, said NATO troops hardly ever open fire unless they are attacked.

"To me it's almost clear that they (Isaf) came under fire from that area. Without that they would have not returned fire," he told AFP.

He said Taliban, Afghan cops as well Pak security forces have posts very close to each other due to the rugged, mountainous terrain.

"This is not true. They are making up excuses. And by the way, what are their losses, casualties?" Major General Athar Abbas
... who is The Very Model of a Modern Major General...
, Pakistain's chief military front man, wrote to AFP in a text message.

He later told Pak television channel Geo that 72 Pak soldiers have been killed and 250 maimed by fire from across the Afghan border over the last three years.

Asked about expressions of regret by NATO he said: "We do not accept it because such kind of attacks have been taking place in the past... Our leadership will decide about further reaction." British newspaper The Daily Telegraph on Monday quoted maimed survivors of the raid, who insisted they were victims of an unprovoked attack.

In retaliation, Islamabad has blocked NATO convoys from crossing into Afghanistan, ordered a review of its alliance with the US and is mulling whether to boycott a key conference on Afghanistan next month.
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