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Can Airbus Afford the A350?
2006-12-08
More importantly, can Europe afford Airbus?
They've showed us the plane. Now, where's the money? At a Paris press conference on Dec. 4, Airbus unveiled plans for the long-awaited A350 XWB, a wide-body jet that will be its answer to Boeing's (BA) 787 Dreamliner.

The Airbus plane, repeatedly delayed by design uncertainties and the turmoil surrounding the A380 megaplane, finally got the green light on Dec. 1 from Airbus's parent, European Aeronautics Defence & Space Co. It's expected to enter commercial service in 2013, five years after the 787. "There has been some bad weather getting here," Airbus Chief Executive Louis Gallois admitted at the press conference. But, he said, "the A350 XWB is just the airplane the market needs."

With Airbus and Boeing in agreement that airlines will order some 5,700 midsized wide-body planes over the next 20 years, the new plane could help Airbus rebound from a deep plunge in orders. During the first three quarters of 2006, Airbus logged only 226 orders, versus 736 for Boeing.
They might fall to #3 behind the U.S. and Brazil as commercial airplane makers.
But the Airbus plane is going to cost a bundle to develop—$13.5 billion in R&D, plus $2 billion in capital expenditure, Gallois said. Where will Airbus get that kind of money? After all, the company is bracing for a $6 billion hit to earnings over the next few years because of production snafus on the A380.
Pah. It's going to be double that as the A380 continues to face delays.
At the same time, the strength of the euro and the British pound against the dollar has weakened the competitiveness of Airbus' mainly European manufacturing base.

Gallois said financing for the A350 XWB would come principally from cash flow and from major suppliers who would take a "risk-sharing" stake in the project. EADS also might raise money on capital markets, he said. And, the CEO said Airbus had not ruled out obtaining low-interest "development" loans from European governments, as it did for the A380 and other recent planes.

What about financing from other companies? Airbus has promised to outsource some 50% of the basic structural work on the A350, up from about 30% on the A380. It is especially keen to find suckers suppliers outside Europe to escape the ill effects of the strong euro and take advantage of the weak dollar. It's likely that about 5% of the plane's final value will be produced in China, another 5% in Korea, and another 3% in Russia, company officials said on Dec. 4.

That leaves two other possible sources of financing: capital markets and European governments. Here, the picture gets even murkier. Gallois said on Dec. 4 that Airbus would "study all possible instruments" of financing, including a capital increase and loans from European governments. "I will not exclude anything, and will not be more specific at this point," he said.

Airbus clearly hopes to avoid taking out government loans, which could inflame an already-heated dispute before the World Trade Organization. Gallois said on Dec. 4 that he hopes the U.S. and European Union will negotiate a new agreement on aircraft subsidies, putting an end to what Airbus contends are equally unfair forms of aid that Boeing receives from the U.S. and foreign governments.

However, in an interview published Dec. 4, French Finance Minister Thierry Breton made clear that the Europeans are still willing to subsidize the new plane. "The four governments concerned [France, Germany, Britain, and Spain] have declared that they will provide guarantees," he told the French business daily La Tribune. "But for the moment, they are not locked into doing it."
Depends how many jobs they want to save.
Posted by:Steve White

#8  USN,

That's the heavy handed supply side, but along with that 15% are some serious gains ... in the form of exclusive supply.

To be honest, the galvanic concern is kind of moot, as modern coating methodologies are there. It seems more of an adhesive issue and/or vibration isolation issue - as the mating surfaces are far different.
Posted by: bombay   2006-12-08 22:19  

#7  Hard to believe Airbus is going to use riveted CF panels. Not only will it be overweight but labor intensive to build compared to 787 fuselages laid down by automated CF tape machinery. To further add to Airbus problems, the next gen 777 should be available a little after the A350, bracketing it from the top and bottom. Airbus should take the time and effort to correctly design the A350.
Posted by: ed   2006-12-08 15:54  

#6  Couple updates: Lst week, Airbus told prospective A350 suppliers that they would be expected to 'contribute' as much as 15% to the development cost of this aircraft.
They also are planning to build the A350 very similiar to an aluminum-skinned aircraft. they are planning on using carbon panels fastened to aluminum ribs. stringers. bulkheads. There will not be a lot of weight saved, and more costs due to required use of exotic metals for fasteners or risk severe corrosion due to galvanic action between the carbon and convnetional aluminum / steel fasteners.
Boeing's plan to bring completed and fully plumbed / outfitted sections of the 787 to Everett and then snap them together like legos looks to be running into some initial difficulty as they have publicly admitted to having to have some 'travel work' done in Everett.
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2006-12-08 14:47  

#5  I can say, without doubt, that AirBus does shop for better supply options, does outsource, etc - often with a very heavy hand. Can we say Route '06?

Note, also outsourcing is risky, and the airframers feel it ... not fun having Boeing or AirBus living at your site after you've stopped a line roll. So you have to balance both sides of the coin.

In many cases, AirBus is in a better position on launch costs due to euro subsidies, and obviously on design funding as well.

Ture, 787 is in development, but it is progressing through design risk and into mfg risk.

Anybody in Aerospace will suffer if they stumble these days. That's a given now, be it AirBus, Boeing, LM, Gulf, Embraer, etc. There's no room for anybody to mess up - esp. with the outsourcing and deep integration of JIT / Lean / etc that they are working towards with suppliers.

I agree, that on a go forward basis, Boeing appears in much better position.
Posted by: bombay   2006-12-08 14:10  

#4  Two things to note.

First, Boeing has outsourced much of its parts manufacturing to suppliers around the globe. That has reduced costs to the company, including initial launch costs, and has reduced it's exposure to any one currency. Airbus has kept manufacturing in-house, which means it must shoulder all of the launch costs, does not shop for lower priced supply and is exposed to fluctuations in the Euro. (The only exception is a new deal to produce the A320 for the Chinese market). Boeing will have huge cost and flexibility advantages over Airbus as the two companies move forward.

Second, keep in mind that the 787 is still in development and, like the A380, is incorporating a lot of new technology. There is still a lot of risk to the 787 program; Boeing will undoubtedly suffer if it stumbles.
Posted by: DoDo   2006-12-08 11:51  

#3  Just speculation here, but a lot of this A350 XWB seems more to do with preservation of supply base than beating Boeing, let alone just competing with Boeing. ALong with having the tick-box for a similar bird.

A lot, and I mean a lot, of AirBus suppliers have slowed up due to A380. If there is nothing next/after A380, many of them will flee to other OEMs. Note, they all work with the other OEMs already, but recently it has been a balance between Boeing and Airbus ... if there is no next thing, they'll shift to other smaller OEMs and more Boeing.

Both are having supply chain problems these days, so any loss of a critical supplier - or I should say any focus loss or urgency loss from a critical supplier would really hurt things.

Again, speculation, but I think it is more about 'yeah, yeah, A380 delayed and has problems, but hang with us, will give you better positions on A350'
Posted by: bombay   2006-12-08 10:36  

#2  I'm going to rename it the XLT -- extra large turkey.
Posted by: Steve White   2006-12-08 10:19  

#1  XWB stands for cross wired b*tch. heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-12-08 01:47  

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