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Bernard Lewis : August 22
2006-08-08
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By Bernard Lewis

During the Cold War, both sides possessed weapons of mass destruction, but neither side used them, deterred by what was known as MAD, mutual assured destruction. Similar constraints have no doubt prevented their use in the confrontation between India and Pakistan. In our own day a new such confrontation seems to be looming between a nuclear-armed Iran and its favorite enemies, named by the late Ayatollah Khomeini as the Great Satan and the Little Satan, i.e., the United States and Israel. Against the U.S. the bombs might be delivered by terrorists, a method having the advantage of bearing no return address. Against Israel, the target is small enough to attempt obliteration by direct bombardment.

It seems increasingly likely that the Iranians either have or very soon will have nuclear weapons at their disposal, thanks to their own researches (which began some 15 years ago), to some of their obliging neighbors, and to the ever-helpful rulers of North Korea. The language used by Iranian President Ahmadinejad would seem to indicate the reality and indeed the imminence of this threat.

Would the same constraints, the same fear of mutual assured destruction, restrain a nuclear-armed Iran from using such weapons against the U.S. or against Israel?

There is a radical difference between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran's present rulers.
Posted by:anonymous5089

#15  I just home we have the belly for it if it happens and not piss around with the United Nations or allow the media to 'frame it approprately' for the masses.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2006-08-08 23:59  

#14  Full link now posted

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008768
Posted by: Spinemble Spolunter5359   2006-08-08 22:34  

#13  Given the accuracy of Persian missiles, maybe they will nuke Gaza.
Posted by: Glemble Sleart5645   2006-08-08 21:32  

#12  I agree. August 22 - Tehran is the climax, baby
Posted by: Captain America   2006-08-08 21:29  

#11  A lot of bad things have been predicted for August 21/22. If the Persians use nukes on that day, August 23 will be the beginning of the end of the Muslim world.

See: http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/
2003_09_01_belmontclub_archive.html#106401071003484059
Much cited, but worthy of review

http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/005478.php
Posted by: SR-71   2006-08-08 19:37  

#10  
I really, really would have liked to live as a westerner in an 21st century technology Europe with 17/18th century values. Do you think any of this jihad sh*t would be happening?


Bugger that. 19th century -- when the Thuggee were wiped out and the Brits put down the Mahdi in the Sudan.
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2006-08-08 19:11  

#9  tell me about it
Posted by: Frank G   2006-08-08 19:10  

#8  Sorry TW, forgot to change my nick back. I shouldn't do impersonations.
Posted by: mcsegeek1   2006-08-08 19:01  

#7  Ah, your facetious side TW! I knew you had it in you sweetie.
Posted by: Rodney K.   2006-08-08 18:59  

#6  The answer to any such attempt by Iran must be as follows, and must be announced beforehand (ie by next week): When the first such missile is launched, we will respond, not with nukes, but with MOABs and Daisy Cutters, and they will be packed with pork blood amongst the explosives, separately, dog and pork DNA will be seeded in all Iran's waterways. This will have no impact on health, but will render all who eat or drink unfit for Paradise. In fact, call in the news networks to have them film the bombs being packed and the dried DNA pellets prepared -- especially Al Jazeera, the BBC and CNN. Thus, all those killed in the response will made unclean and deemed unfit for Paradise. Whether or not Mullah Ahmadenijad believes his 12th Imam will make all pure, doubt will be sown in his followers' minds.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-08-08 17:32  

#5  What limits us?

Years of multiculturalism, PC, demasculization, UNism, brotherhood of manism bullshit. That is what limits us. We fight like we are afraid to do what it takes to win. The other side fights with no limits. Our military has both hands tied around their nuts, and they still are kicking ass. They just can't finish the job with all the liberal, feel good, ass nuggets running around in the State Department and the government.

Fucking nuke the assholes and then accept their unconditional surrender, or nuke them again and again into oblivion.
Posted by: DarthVader   2006-08-08 16:31  

#4  The fact we (the West) are liberal democracies with a "public opinion" (shaped by "progressives")???

I really, really would have liked to live as a westerner in an 21st century technology Europe with 17/18th century values. Do you think any of this jihad sh*t would be happening?
Posted by: anonymous5089   2006-08-08 14:24  

#3  Lewis mentions the limitations posed by the Mutually Assured Doctrine, during the Cold War. I beat myself up sometimes when I think of what we should be doing in WOT, when we are NOT subject to MAD. We can use nuclear extortion, and all the other side could do was accept it. Yet we don't, and we are paying for it in crippling fuel prices while doing nothing as Iran develops nuclear weapons.

What limits us?
Posted by: Snease Shaiting3550   2006-08-08 13:43  

#2  Big Ed - You think to small. Think on a grander scale.
Remember Muslim's don't believe in borders and fences.
Posted by: 3dc   2006-08-08 13:14  

#1  This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind.

Yes, and if anything does happen to Israel, we would be well advised, to hit Magic Mulla Central, Downtown Teheran, with a few well placed MOABs, so they are ID'ing what's left of Ahmadisnutz, and his cronies by DNA on bone chips the size of fleas. Using a MOAB reducxes the damaging the environment... because many innocent Iranians want out of this mess, and we don't want to harm them long term, we should not nuke Teheran.

Of course if our microwave/particle-beam weapon is ready, a few mullas exploding after they scream and start to smoke might be something interesting for Al-Jazzy or Cabal Network Nonsense to report. Get the paint scrapers handy, as well as the protective clothing. Cleaning exploded mulla on the wall is messy and a biohazard.

And if anyone doesn't like these descriptions, just think what the people in the airplanes thought when they realized that those horse feces f**kholes were flying those plane into the buildings, and they were going to die?

Flying planes into buildings, because of some mega-carnal reward they would get?
But they were doing so in the name of the devil they called Allah.

Or what about the people in those buildings (WTC) who saw the planes coming and had no escape?
Think long and hard before you criticize my rant. And don't bother me with this PC shit about us lowering ourselves. If you think this way than you have burka envy, and have no survival instinct.

A few mullahs dying an agonizing though relatively quick death (way to quick - less than a minute) is mild compared to the 9/11 horror. Allah akhbar, Baby!
Posted by: BigEd   2006-08-08 13:09  

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