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Iraq-Jordan
Attacking Iraq, from a Nev. computer
2005-04-05
Posted by:tu3031

#21  Reminds me of Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
Posted by: AJackson   2005-04-05 11:47:27 PM  

#20  Freaked out by remotely piloted Predators, eh? Wait 'till they see the giant, killer robots attacking in autonomous waves. MWAHAHAHAA. Gort, klaatu barata niktu!
Posted by: SteveS   2005-04-05 5:01:10 PM  

#19  and I have stood watch in a major combatant command center, FWIW.
Posted by: anymouse   2005-04-05 2:23:08 PM  

#18  Dreadnought is spot on. All major combatant commands have a JAG (or JAG's) available to assist the major combatant commander in the decision making process whether it is ROE, maritime law, or international relations.
Posted by: anymouse   2005-04-05 2:21:21 PM  

#17  Not really sure what Maxine Waters has to do with my comment.

JAGs aren't running the command center, but they are the resource that interprets ROE, international conventions, etc.
Posted by: Dreadnought   2005-04-05 1:55:33 PM  

#16  "Why do you think every general and admiral in an operational command has one on staff?"

Not to be flippant but how about assholes like Kofi and the UN, The EU and it press, the USAs own MSM and, politicians like Ted Kenedy and Maxine Waters for a start. No one else really gives a damm.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-04-05 1:44:36 PM  

#15  I can tell that all of the comments against the lawyers are made by folks who have never stood a watch in a command center.

Let me tell you folks, those legal beagles are there to protect our servicemembers. Yes, it may seem as if they are hindering the war effort, but as long as we have established ROEs and international conventions, the lawyers need to have their say. Why do you think every general and admiral in an operational command has one on staff?
Posted by: Dreadnought   2005-04-05 1:36:45 PM  

#14  Just tell The Globe that all the operators are gay. You'll never hear a peep out of them about this again.
Posted by: tu3031   2005-04-05 1:24:45 PM  

#13  Sending the lawyer out to lunch is to obvious. You need to sidetrack them with potential hi-visibility cases... Oh look on camera 7 in the other room I see a small child approaching Michael J. at Wonderland! Bet a lawyer could go miles with that.
Posted by: 3dc   2005-04-05 1:03:23 PM  

#12  Let's compromise. Instead of using Predators let's send the editors of the Boston Globe on recon missions. "Yeah, we think there's a sniper on a rooftop down that street. Just keep walking.... Man, I hate being right all the time."
Posted by: Matt   2005-04-05 12:53:06 PM  

#11  Mike, stop using logic. That doesn't fit into the Globe's meme.
Posted by: Remoteman   2005-04-05 12:15:13 PM  

#10  ...some military strategists worry that the modern, remote-control approach to warfare may undercut international legal norms designed to reduce the casualties of armed conflict, such as the level of certainty required when deciding who will be targeted.

Anybody think an A-10 pilot will have any better shot at "certainty" in acquiring the target while simultaneously dodging AAA and SAM fire and trying to keep from smacking into the terrain at 200 kts?
Posted by: Mike   2005-04-05 11:36:19 AM  

#9  Liberals love dead Americans, especially dead American military.

How about fulfilling the wishes of those Liberals who so were eager to go to Iraq as human shields?
Posted by: JFM   2005-04-05 11:18:54 AM  

#8  "The Predator has been involved in at least one case of mistaken identity, in 2001 when the CIA killed a Hollywood extra an Afghan shepherd who in height and weight resembled Michael Moore Osama bin Laden, at least as far as the agents monitoring the computers images could see."

Posted by: Justrand   2005-04-05 11:17:39 AM  

#7  I am sure they also have a commander who, if he has the balls, can over rule the "lawyers." My hope is they often do.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom   2005-04-05 11:13:16 AM  

#6  If they get a target they think is hot, send the lawyers out for Chinese food or something...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-04-05 11:05:13 AM  

#5  Ignore this comment if you've heard it, because I have said it again and again:

Liberals love dead Americans, especially dead American military.
Posted by: badanov   2005-04-05 11:02:00 AM  

#4  "We have lawyers sitting right in the commander center,"

And that's why mullah Omar isn't a grease spot.
Posted by: ed   2005-04-05 10:57:39 AM  

#3  And to think that all of this happened because of a couple of preacher's kids.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2005-04-05 10:50:46 AM  

#2  ''We have lawyers sitting right in the commander center," said Captain John Songer, a Predator pilot for two years, adding that great pains are taken to determine, for example, if ''that guy is smuggling rugs out of a truck is smuggling weapons."

I'm starting to feel sick....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-04-05 10:50:35 AM  

#1  But some analysts say the Predator poses ethical dilemmas about ''sanitized warfare." Predators are cheaper and less risky to fly...In the process, however, they make war appear bloodless from the American side.

Yes, images showing scores of US dead and wounded a la Vietnam is sooo preferable to the Boston Globe.

...some military strategists worry that the modern, remote-control approach to warfare may undercut international legal norms designed to reduce the casualties of armed conflict, such as the level of certainty required when deciding who will be targeted.

Wonder what these 'strategists' think about international legal norms with regard to someone blowing themselves up in a mess hall...
Posted by: Pappy   2005-04-05 10:44:02 AM  

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