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Israel-Palestine
Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007
2005-03-29
A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian scholar Ziad Silwadi.
Whew. That's a relief. I was really worried about Social Security...
The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in the Koran.
"Mahmoud! What's this word mean?"
It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger than that which recently struck southeast Asia. "The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."
"Hoo, boy! Are they gonna get it! They'll be sorry Britney shook them titties! They'll be sorry for Janet Jackson's mipple! They'll be sorry Paris Hilton... uhhh... uhhh... Oh, where is my gun? I must... I must... I must shoot off!"
Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah — the home of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal — is not a world-renowned scholar.
In fact, he's a nut...
He said he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking and frightening." His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US. "It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he added.
"But since it's gonna go down the tubes, we should be getting ready. Put your money in dinars!"
"The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster occurs because of the great services that American society has rendered to the economy, industry and science."
"But really, we'll be better off without 'em. I mean, we don't need all them porn sites..."
Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks. "As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."
"The Arabs and Africans who were selling them never would have sold them if they'd known they were getting into that kind of a mess!"
Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and "ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to use nuclear weapons during World War II. "International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a big archive called the Koran."
"So he's gonna do it, see? And he's gonna do it in 2007. If it don't happen then, well, I guess Allah's just a load of bunk and we should all become agnostics. Guess we'll have to wait and see, huh?"
Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters) in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate heinous sins actually refer to the US. As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura, which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their own souls."
Well, I guess that settles the matter then, doesn't it? Who can argue with that?
Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin" of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by drowning for his evil deeds. The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the unjust [verses 38-40]."
Uhhh... What happened to all the other pharoahs? How about the ones who lived long and fruitful lives and died of old age?
Explaining his theory about the approaching extinction of the US, the scholar went on to analyze many numbers and letters mentioned in the Koran.
"... and the number 19 is a pregnant number..."
He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231 years. How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.
Ahah! Just as I thought! He forgot to multiply by the square root of the number of suras that mention camels! His research is obviously invalid!
In his lengthy study, which is being circulated in many Muslim countries, Silwadi noted that the US has often been compared to a tree that grows very quickly and bears fruit, but has no roots.
Damn. I thought we were growing kinda slowly, and that our tap root was deep in Europe, but with the rest of the roots all over the world...
In an attempt to find a reference to this metaphor in the Koran, Silwadi said he counted 1776 verses from the beginning of the Koran until he reached verse 26 of the Ibrahim Sura, which states: "And the parable of an evil word is as an evil tree pulled up from the earth's surface; it has no stability."
In a year holding a three, or seven, or five, or nine, or maybe not,/Two things, might be people, or armies, or buildings,/Or anything really, blades of grass, or stoats, or crapulous charlatans spouting mimsy,/Might do something nebulous./Insert made-up-bit here.
--Generic Nostradamus Quatrain from "The Guardian"

Gawd, I love the scientific method!
Posted by:Anonymoose

#49  Lol - you wouldn't need a defib unit to restart my old ticker, lol!
Posted by: .com   2005-03-29 10:35:04 PM  

#48  #47 .com - That's right, honey. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-03-29 10:28:12 PM  

#47  Barbara - #32 - ;-D

That was PayPal, right? Heh, heh.
Posted by: .com   2005-03-29 8:35:15 PM  

#46  JH - how about the winner/score in next monday's BBall game?
Posted by: Frank G   2005-03-29 3:44:53 PM  

#45  Jarheads Rocks and Shoals?
Posted by: Shipman   2005-03-29 3:39:43 PM  

#44  Spot, even if the U.S. ceases to exist, the Koran is still crap.

BTW, just in case anyone is interested, I had an angel tell me last night (I think he said his name was Gabriel) to write a book and say it's from God, no shit, I swear it's all true, send me $19.99 right away for your own copy and I'll even autograph it, peace be upon me. P.S. I put lots of good prophecies and shit in there that the almighty wants you to know about.
Posted by: Jarhead   2005-03-29 3:28:17 PM  

#43  Sorry, James, should have read a little closer. Besides, I live in the Pacific Beach section of San Diego and was hoping for some really good waves.
Posted by: RWV   2005-03-29 3:24:02 PM  

#42  "US To End In 2007; Women, Minorities Hurt Most"
Posted by: BH   2005-03-29 3:19:54 PM  

#41  He said a careful reading and analysis of words appearing in the Opening and Yusuf suras show that the US will exist for only 231 years. How did he reach that number? Silwadi said that by combing a number of suras hinting at US sins he reached the numbers 1776 (the year the US achieved independence) and 231. He added the two numbers and the result was 2007, the year when the US is expected to disappear.

Does anyone else think it odd that Mohammed, the one true prophet of Allah, in his writing of the Koran thought to use the Christian calendar for important dates regarding the US? This guy doesn't even realize how pathetic Arab culture has become in the last 500 - 600 years.
Posted by: RWV   2005-03-29 3:18:04 PM  

#40  This guy is just trying to get a guest shot on Art Bell.
Posted by: RWV   2005-03-29 3:08:51 PM  

#39  This is old news.
I'm sure the World Weekly News has predicted this happening many times.
Maybe a copy just hit the "scholars" table.
Posted by: Jim K   2005-03-29 3:02:24 PM  

#38  I support the Star Trek prognostication theory. Why aren't there any Muslims in Star Trek. Because it is in the future!
Posted by: Remoteman   2005-03-29 2:59:46 PM  

#37  A more plausible headline is this...

"US: Koran Scholars Will Cease to Exist in 2007"
Posted by: Captain Pedantic   2005-03-29 2:43:09 PM  

#36  I live in Carlsbad San Diego. Up the hill and 10 miles inland from the coast. I can see the ocean by looking out my window. And still, for some reason, I feel safe. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that the Tsunami that hit in December wouldn't have been big enough to get my carpets wet.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-03-29 1:26:51 PM  

#35  < predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger than that which recently struck southeast Asia.>

So that's the five miles land on one or the other coast. The rest of the country will be just fine, thank you.


So Allah's working for Karl Rove, huh. Who'd a thought the Koran would predict such a clear victory Dick Cheney's Presidential campaign in 2008???

Heh.
Posted by: too true   2005-03-29 12:14:05 PM  

#34  Crazy Fool

There are generally thought, by Moslems, to be from 20 to 25 prophesies in the Quran (claiming a new prophesy is borderline heresy except; however this fellow may get a pass because the prophesy is against the infidel and thus justified by jihad theology).

Most of the so called prophesies concern victory in battles that were fought during the early days of Islam. Since the Quran was put into final form several hundred years after Muhamet's death, a typical westerner wouldn't consider them prophesies at all. The other prophesies are hard to pin down because of the disjoint and unfocused style of the Quran (much like the poetry of Nostradamus). A good site to read on this is:

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Nehls/Ask/proofs.html#p69

about two thirds of the way down.
Posted by: mhw   2005-03-29 12:10:24 PM  

#33  Uh, has this clown been talking to Miss Cleo?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-03-29 12:06:37 PM  

#32  #1 .com - ROFL!

You're a man of many talents. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2005-03-29 12:06:02 PM  

#31  "...the Koran mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by drowning for his evil deeds..."
I guess they kind of missed the part where the plagues came for abusing the Israelis.

"...the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks..."
So Alan is going to drown the Native Americans and blacks?

Typical Alan scholar -- selective data and no logic.
Posted by: Tom   2005-03-29 12:02:30 PM  

#30  James, that is a good question. Why would Koran have predictions related to non-mooselimb calendar? Wouldn't that be, like, ah, blasphemous?

If the 'scholar' pulled these numbers in mooselimb calendar system, I would give him some points for consistency. But what we have here is not even a good crap.
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-03-29 11:44:23 AM  

#29  If I have to admit that this esteemed Muslim scholar may have seen my 1995 classic "Waterworld" too many times.
Posted by: Kevin Costner   2005-03-29 11:37:52 AM  

#28  I live inland at San Diego - Ima thinkr I'll have beachfront property...cool!
Posted by: Frank G   2005-03-29 11:34:45 AM  

#27  Is that the year 2007 according to the "infidel Christian" calendar, or the "holy Muslim" one?
Posted by: James   2005-03-29 11:31:00 AM  

#26  Why don't we trade this scholar for Ward Churchill... it would move UC Boulder a little more toward the center.
Posted by: Capsu78   2005-03-29 11:30:05 AM  

#25  I thought the Mayan calendar said we'd all cease in 2012, sometime in May as I remember.

This calls for a conference to iron out the differences in the time...
Posted by: BigEd   2005-03-29 11:18:21 AM  

#24  I am not that high, but I am gonna buy jetski and visit ya once on the level.
Posted by: twobyfour   2005-03-29 11:17:21 AM  

#23  I'm in Colorado too at 7200ft! I'll be sure to stop by walmart and buy some water wings just to be safe.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2005-03-29 11:14:32 AM  

#22  Maybe the Islamic Deep Thoughts committee should redirect some of this brainpower toward really coming to market with the last good idea to have its roots in Arabic thought- Bring the Flying Carpet to market cause the Americans will certainly want to buy a camel load to prepare for Y2K_07.
And to think the Persiamn Carpet place downtown (everywhere) is "Going out of Business- FOREVER!!!"
Seems like a poor time to exit the market.
Posted by: Capsu78   2005-03-29 11:12:52 AM  

#21  Yeah? Well, my invisible friend tells me that the PA is gonna fall down and not be able to get up in 2006.
Posted by: mojo   2005-03-29 11:11:16 AM  

#20  Pay the fortune teller his five bucks, dear... I want to see the rest of the carnival...
Posted by: Capsu78   2005-03-29 11:06:21 AM  

#19  Woo-Hoo! I'm in Colorado at 6247 feet so I should be ok! If the water hits this high, the world is fooked anyway, including the "prophet" (eat seaweed goatfooker!)
He also ignores all the other "sins" that have gone on in the world by other countries throughout history and most of them lasted for centuries.
Posted by: mmurray821   2005-03-29 10:51:26 AM  

#18  Denver, Colorado will be inundated.

Damn. And I wanted to move there too.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama   2005-03-29 10:49:50 AM  

#17  They also ignore the fact that the Indians' treatment of the newly-arrived Europeans was often horrible. Ask the inhabitants of Roanoke.
Posted by: Virginia Dare   2005-03-29 10:26:08 AM  

#16  It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

So that's the five miles land on one or the other coast. The rest of the country will be just fine, thank you.

As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land

Don't tell me -- he was taught history using European textbooks, right? Eurotrash always blames the US for "genocide" against the Native Americans, conveniently ignoring the 300-odd years of history before anyone uttered the words "these United States".

While the US treatment of the Indians was often horrible, it pales in comparison to the policies of the Spanish, English, and French.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown in the sea

Yep. Denver, Colorado will be inundated. That will leave, what, maybe two or three other cities IN THE WORLD above water?
Posted by: Robert Crawford   2005-03-29 10:08:08 AM  

#15  He forgot the first rule of predictions. Make the prediction far enough out that (a) people forget so that when it doesn't come true it's no big deal (see Population Bomb, World Freezing predictions of the 70s) (b) Far enough out that you've squeezed every last drop of publishing sales out of the issue before you're proven wrong.

As the wise man Peter Vinkmen once said (I'm paraphrasing) in Ghostbusters 2, "are you sure you don't want to revise your prediction, that's not even enough time for the paperback to come out."
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-03-29 9:57:36 AM  

#14  I ain't taking any chances just in case he's right. Off to cash in my IRA!
Posted by: Dreadnought   2005-03-29 9:56:11 AM  

#13  Odd that he fails to mention that the US fought a brutal civil war to end slavery yet slavery still exists in many Islamic countries to this day. Perhaps there is a tie in with the tsunami's in the Indian Ocean, just not the one he thinks.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2005-03-29 9:55:14 AM  

#12  Somehow "we're gonna party like it's 2006" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Sorry, Muslim Scholar Dude™, I'm gonna have to pass.
Posted by: Dar   2005-03-29 9:44:32 AM  

#11  In fact the XIXth century colonization of Africa was sold to the european public opinions as needed for protecting local populations against Arab slave merchants. And Soudan has reinstated slave trade while Pakistani islmits nutjobs promise slaves to every Pakistani once India is conquered. So I guess Soudan and Pakistan will be covered by water.
Posted by: JFM   2005-03-29 9:36:39 AM  

#10  Ok. Name 1 prediction in the Koran which has come to pass.

Just one...

Ok.. well lets try this. Nme one prophecy the 'prophet' made which has come to pass...

Just one....

Not even a little one?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2005-03-29 9:24:38 AM  

#9  That little piggy's been thinking too hard! When creepy self proclaimed religious scholars with whacky ideas garner great interest and attention in the public you can be sure your culture is FK'd. This is the curse of the nutjobs, they can't seem to realistically focus on practical solutions to their pressing problems. Does the word "introspection" exist in their language?
Posted by: Tkat   2005-03-29 9:09:16 AM  

#8  One of the sins that will bring this tradegy accordling with this retard, is the sin of slavery. But what he "forgat" to mention is that the Americans bought slaves, did not make slaves. The ones who sold slaves, were the Arabs. And also he "forgat" to mention that even in our days, Arabs still sell Black slaves,
Posted by: LENA   2005-03-29 8:45:30 AM  

#7  "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

Odd, my history books say the slave trade was run by the british and dutch, and the blacks were bought from the Muslims (Arab) tribes.

So suddenly we Americans hold ALL the blame.

Crap religious teachings are still crap.

I recall the old saying, "If a million people believe a lie, it's still a lie."
Posted by: Threque Uloluns4886   2005-03-29 8:44:12 AM  

#6  Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar.

But he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...
Posted by: tu3031   2005-03-29 8:33:51 AM  

#5  A great sin will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

Sorry, bub. We build the machines there. We don't test them there.
Posted by: Halliburton: Earthquake/ Tsunami Division   2005-03-29 8:29:32 AM  

#4  well if there is a great flood in the Atlantic wouldn't that peoceed too raise the level of the mediterraenean sea (sp?) and thus maybe "palestine" be under water too? Also i think it was the uropeans doing the slavery thing too the blacks long before america existed.
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864   2005-03-29 8:28:17 AM  

#3  Over in Soddy, 75% of all PhDs are in Koranic studies. Arabia is brimming over with "Koran scholars"
Posted by: sea cruise   2005-03-29 8:26:48 AM  

#2  And if the US still exists in 2008 does that mean the Koran is crap? Hmmm?
Posted by: Spot   2005-03-29 8:13:24 AM  

#1  Fuckin' A, huh? Well then, I guess that settles that. Thanks for the heads-up there, ragbrain.

We'll see you in 2008
and don't you dare be late
cuz now we have a solid date
to set Islam's narrow ass straight.

-Burma Shave, Assholes.
Posted by: .com   2005-03-29 8:07:52 AM  

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