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| 2004-07-04 |
| EFL The former military commander of Abu Ghraib prison claimed Saturday that she met an Israeli interrogator who was working at a secret facility in Iraq. Seriously now, can’t we stuff a gasoline soaked rag in this Bitch’s mouth? Doesn’t she have a clue to the damage she is doing...to the cause, certainly, but more importantly to the safety of American Troops??? Although Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski told the BBC in an interview that no Israelis were working at Abu Ghraib, she claimed that she met an Israeli interrogator at an undisclosed facility while she was escorting a retiring four-star general through Iraq last year. "He was clearly from the Middle East and he said, ’well I do some of the interrogation here, and of course, I speak Arabic but I’m not an Arab, I’m from Israel," Karpinski said in an interview with the Today program on BBC Radio 4. Unlike many here at Rantburg, I have no complaint against the press or the BBC, they are doing their job...my question is about military discipline...are General Officers allowed to blabber and blather on like this? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, Why in the world isn’t this woman in the stockade and facing a General Courts Martial for losing control of her command???? "My initial reaction was to kind of laugh because I thought maybe he was joking," Karpinski said. "He did look like he was an Israeli. At that time he didn’t elaborate any more than to say that ... he was working with them and there was people from lots of different places that were involved in the operation," Karpinski said. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s Bureau issued a statement "emphatically denying" her information, saying that there was "no basis whatsoever to the reports." An Israeli presence in Iraq could further turn Arab opinion against the coalition. No shit, Sherlock. Karpinski, an Army Reserve officer, was relieved of duty in Iraq on January 17, a day after the coalition announced an investigation into allegations of abuse at Abu Ghraib. Relieved of duty was obviously not sufficent...she should have been summarily shot. This IS a war. In fairness and full disclosure, it is to be noted that no one has been more critical of the soldiers in the Abu Ghraib scandal than myself. I have forgiven them nothing, and my scorn reaches far up the chain of command on this for a bunch of reasons, too numerous to go into now. This includes the Memo writers and, having read the entire memo myself, included a call for disbarment of these attorneys...for crappy writing and giving really stupid advice. A serious country protects their soldiers from all kinds of threats...this would include threats from within the Army itself. All the field troops feel badly about this also, but most importantly, Abu Gabril put them in greater danger and made their difficult job even more difficult. (Sorry, rant off). |
| Posted by:Traveller |
| #7 A few things: *NO* Israeli operator I ever met *EVER* admitted who he worked for, even when he knew that I knew. Especially ones that spoke Arabic and were involved in "sensitive" work. They just do NOT do that. So this sounds like Bullsh*t to me. Leaves us with 3 things: Either Karpinsik is making stuff up, or is leaking, or the BBC is making stuff up (and throwing Israel in there is just the sort of inflammatory crap they would put out). In either of the first 2 cases, you have to wonder how the hell she ever got her star. Then you look at Clinton and the "affirmative action" types of policies - and that she is a Guard officer (meaning a patron of the Democrat political machine in her home state). That sort of answers how a incompetent, dishonorable, doding, buck-passing, political hack like her got into a command position. And in either of those 2 cases, she should have her resignation on SecArmy's desk Tuesday Morning. Not retirment - resignation of her comission. And if she doesn't then they ought to bring charges. Now, if the BBC is lying then General Karpinsky owes it to her command and nation to point out the lie, and demand a FRONT PAGE or repeated On-The-Air retraction and apology by the writer and the BBC. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2004-07-04 4:55:45 PM |
| #6 I believe she can be charged with dereliction of duty. It was her duty to run that prison and keep control of those soldiers and she didn't. Now she is telling the press things she shouldn't and I think she will be repremanded further. At least, I hope so. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2004-07-04 4:47:52 PM |
| #5 At some point someone should look at the names on her last promotion board. Some really bad judgement there. |
| Posted by: Yank 2004-07-04 2:12:14 PM |
| #4 She squeals like a guilty pig, to foreign audiences no less. |
| Posted by: Capt America 2004-07-04 2:08:49 PM |
| #3 Unlike many here at Rantburg, I have no complaint against the press or the BBC, they are doing their job...my question is about military discipline...are General Officers allowed to blabber and blather on like this? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, Why in the world isn’t this woman in the stockade and facing a General Courts Martial for losing control of her command? Gen. Karpinski is probably facing some disciplinary action, but since her inaction caused no physical harm, and no troops died as a result of her inaction, whatever change she is facing will likely be mild. I am not familiar with Military Law, but I don't think they can get her on derilictiion of duty, but they could on some lesser charge. And it is likely that the DoD wants to dispose of this matter quickly, and may well not bother with anything more than the threat of some kind of administrative charge and punishment, all of which can be avoided if she ressigns her commission. Whatever happens in the legal arena, Karpinski ever getting another command is likely out of the question and her career is probably over, and it is just as well, given her proclivity to shoot her mouth off against her nation's interests. It is enough for me she was relieved of command before this lack of control began to spread. As for the prisoners? It sucks to be them. |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-07-04 1:33:48 PM |
| #2 The more Gen. Karpinski, the more I believe she was less interested in becoming and staying a military officer than pushing a personal agenda. Military officers well understand the concept of sacrifice and duty. It appears Gen. Karpinski wants to turn those things on its head. She has less and less honor with every syllable she utters, and she apparently believes the country, our allies, its citizens and her fellow military people should he sacrificed for her personal aggrandizement and agenda. That makes her a very dangerous individual. Some civilian authority needs to tell her to clam up or resign her commission. |
| Posted by: badanov 2004-07-04 1:20:12 PM |
| #1 (rant on) Gen Karpinski should be notified that the next interview she gives will be in Leavenworth. This dumbass does more to disparage the Army and US image with every gaseous emission coming from her "victimhood" mouth. STFU before you disgrace yourself further and damage the country you profess to care about. How did this idiot get that high? Were there no signs of lack of character before now? (/rant off) |
| Posted by: Frank G 2004-07-04 12:49:15 PM |