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Arabia
Hajj marred by tragedy
2004-02-09
By Taieb Mahjoub
King Fahd of Saudi Arabia has ordered the holy places of Mecca and Medina to be modernized, after some 250 Muslims – half of them Asians – died during a ritual that regularly results in deadly stampedes at the Hajj pilgrimage.
“Why stop a good thing-it’s tradition ya know”
The 20-year project, announced by royal decree, establishes a committee chaired by minister of municipal and rural affairs, Mutaab Bin Abdel Aziz, and including Mecca regional governor Abdel Majid Bin Abdel Aziz, Medina regional governor Muqran Bin Abdel Aziz, and Hajj minister Iyad Bin Amin Madani.
“this should be interesting-a 20 years to do what?”
The committee will “gradually put forward proposals” on the basis of expert opinion from abroad as well as within the kingdom.
“note the word gradually”
The dead and injured were trampled or suffocated last Sunday, when vast numbers of pilgrims – almost 2 million – surged forward to lob stones at pillars representing the devil.
“The devil made me do it”
The ritual in the valley of Mina, just outside Mecca, continued for a second day on Monday.
“perhaps they could merge this activity somehow with the Bull run in Spain”
The annual Hajj is an immense logistical challenge for the Saudi authorities, who last month announced an “integrated crowd control strategy” to prevent new tragedies during the annual event.
“But it is good if Allah wishes it right?”
Pilgrims were to be released, in limited numbers, onto a two-tier bridge to take part in the ritual stoning of the devil – represented by three pillars below the bridge – with special forces deployed to disperse people in case of a stampede.
“um two tier bridge-anyone see something disastrous here? “
The faithful were also supposed to leave the area quickly after completing the ritual, while arrangements had been made to rescue pilgrims who fainted or got trapped in the crowds, with the movement of pilgrims monitored via closed-circuit television.
“OK throw your rocks and get moving”
But – as in so many previous years – strategies to prevent a tragedy at the pillars apparently failed, leading to the worst accident since 1998, when 118 pilgrims were killed and more than 180 hurt. The worst toll of the pilgrimage was in July 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims were trampled or asphyxiated to death in a tunnel in Mina. Most of the pilgrims who died in this year’s accident were Asian.
“Allah doesn’t like Asians?”
“We believe that most of the dead are from among illegal pilgrims,” said Hajj minister Madani, referring to those who arrived earlier in the year to perform the Umrah (minor pilgrimage) and stayed illegally, as well as local residents who had not registered for the Hajj.
“Illegal immigrants in the Kingdom? Shocking”
He said 2,000 national guard members were moved to the area following the stampede to reinforce 10,000 police already on site.
“maybe if we used paintball guns”
Despite the stampede, which lasted nearly half an hour, the ritual resumed later on Sunday, continuing for another two and a half hours.
“Ok just walk around those bodies-keep it moving”
To cries of ”Allahu akbar” (God is great), pilgrims hurl seven small stones from behind a fence or from the overhead bridge every day for three days at each of the three 18-meter (58-foot) high concrete pillars that symbolize Satan.
“I guess they have workers who much like our golf driving range attendants go in and pick up the rocks for the next round”
The pillars stand only 155 meters apart and are generally mobbed as pilgrims try to get as close as possible.
“Wouldn’t it be safer just to piss on the devils’ rock?”
You can't do that! You'd have to show your pee-pee!
According to tradition, it was on this site that Satan appeared to the Prophet Abraham, his son Ishmael and wife Hagar, who each threw seven stones at the devil.
“another (t)urban legend”
Pilgrims who were at the rite on Sunday gave varying accounts of what took place but all said they would not be deterred.
“nah Abdul had it coming anyways”
“I was there and saw 30 to 40 bodies on the ground. But I don’t know if they were dead or unconscious,” said one young Saudi, who declined to give his name.
“ya I just got my rocks out and threw them anyways.”
“What happened this morning did not stop the accomplishing of the Hajj rituals. The pilgrims continued to rush in,” said Waleed Faydullah, a 32-year-old Egyptian.
“Whittled down a few of the players though”
The first two days of the pilgrimage had passed without incident under tight security – although seven members of what the authorities described as a “terror group” were arrested on suspicion of planning an attack.
“geez wonder if they would have blown up something-cool”
Since King Fahd Bin Abdel Aziz acceded to the throne in 1982 and took the title of Guardian of the Two Holy Sites, the government has spent more than 100 billion Saudi riyals (about $27 billion) on enlarging the shrines at Mecca and Medina, which attract millions of visitors to Saudi Arabia each year.
“money well spent – is that for quarrying or what?”
The Hajj, one of the five pillars of Islam, along with faith, prayer, charity and the annual Ramadan fast, reached its peak last Saturday on the nearby plain of Arafat, where pilgrims prayed for forgiveness. They then spent the night in the town of Muzdalifa, where they collected their stones, before heading to Mina.
“Party down”
Posted by:dataman1

#19  Pappy I'm just now drying my eyes. Oh man.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-2-10 12:57:17 AM  

#18  Hagar bore Abram ( as he was named originally) a son and Abram called him Ishmael.genesis 16.15. Re Ishmael he and Hagar were sent away to the wilderness of Beersheba genesis 21.14 He dwelt in the wilderness of Paran. gen 21.21. Sarah Abrahams wife wanted Ishmael banished so he would not be heir along with Isaac gen 21.10 hope this helps!
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-10 12:12:01 AM  

#17  Abraham came fom iraq. he is the father of ishmael and isaac fom which the arabs and jews are descended

If Abraham had two sons, why did God command him to take his only son Isaac in Genesis 22: 2? "Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah."
Posted by: Rafael   2004-2-9 11:41:53 PM  

#16  Pappy your too cool LMAO....
Posted by: dataman1   2004-2-9 10:25:00 PM  

#15  Bring the Hajj-ers a third rail in their people mover system and they will fall all over it.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-2-9 9:08:42 PM  

#14  A possible Classic anyone?
Posted by: dataman1   2004-2-9 7:30:45 PM  

#13  You stand in line untill the next empty seat. Keep your hands and feet inside the car for safty. The people mover could get the intire process over and done within a five minute ride. Rocks and all.

But then we'll have to read about pilgrims getting crushed while embarking/riding/debarking moving walkways, hanging themselves on the barrier ropes, falling or jumping out out of the cars, rioting and/or dying when things break down due to poor maintenance....
Posted by: Pappy   2004-2-9 2:11:01 PM  

#12  Disney? Sure. Believers! Come ride "Allah's Satan Stoning Bridge of Death"! The only thing that sucks is that it opens up another role for Johnny Depp when they make the movie.
Posted by: tu3031   2004-2-9 12:33:35 PM  

#11  Another domestic dispute, then. These are always the most dangerous calls.
Posted by: .com   2004-2-9 12:24:01 PM  

#10  A five minute ride to "It's a joooo world after all"
Posted by: Shipman   2004-2-9 12:14:55 PM  

#9  Alaska Paul has it right. Let Disney do it. You stand in line untill the next empty seat. Keep your hands and feet inside the car for safty. The people mover could get the intire process over and done within a five minute ride. Rocks and all.
Posted by: Lucky   2004-2-9 12:03:50 PM  

#8  Abraham came fom iraq. he is the father of ishmael and isaac fom which the arabs and jews are descended
Posted by: Anonymous   2004-2-9 11:55:17 AM  

#7  â€œanother (t)urban legend”

Coffee Alert Required!!!
Posted by: john   2004-2-9 11:48:33 AM  

#6  --Prophet Abraham?????

The JEWISH prophet Abraham?
Posted by: Anonymous2U   2004-2-9 11:37:49 AM  

#5  His wife Hagar??? A woman that ugly explains a lot about the misogyny of Islam.
Posted by: Frank G   2004-2-9 11:36:20 AM  

#4  Ah, the running of the Muslims in PamplonaMecca.
Posted by: wistful   2004-2-9 11:15:16 AM  

#3  When you are moving people through the same path and process every time it is becoming more like a theme park. So get some theme park engineers, or contact a supplier of cattle handling equipment, or something different than what they have been doing that does not seem to work. Oh, that would mean hiring infidels. I guess that change would have to be gradual. The mullahs know best. 250 people is just the price to pay, as long as the hajj-ers keep buying into it.
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2004-2-9 11:07:59 AM  

#2  I harbor some doubts that it's the location that needs to be modernized.
Posted by: BH   2004-2-9 11:06:44 AM  

#1  Moderization: When technology and tradition clash.

In the early 70's a row of embassies were built in Riyadh to replace the ones in Jedda. A British company contracted to build a large Mosque in their midst. The firm used Polaris and other modern survey techniques to assure that the Mosque was exactly aligned with the Kaaba in Mecca. Constuction was well under way when a Mullah visited the site and determined the building was about ten degrees off from the traditional direction to Mecca. The Brits had to start all over. Mullahs and modern don't mix well.
Posted by: GK   2004-2-9 10:55:33 AM  

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