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Arabia
Saudi Passports Not a Means of Identification
2003-12-22
Never doubted it for a minute:
Saudi passports cannot be used as a means of identification in the Kingdom, Interior Minister Prince Nayef said here yesterday.
The what the hell are they good for?
The prince said it had come to his attention that many Saudis were using their passports to identify themselves but said passports “are only a method to facilitate travel abroad or moving from one country to another.” The interior minister said some government offices were issuing national ID cards based on Saudi passports. Prince Nayef has instructed both public and private sector organizations not to accept Saudi passports as proof of identity.
Read that again. He just admitted that official Saudi passports can’t be trusted as proof of ID.
That might be because most of them are produced by Olde Worlde craftsmen in Pakistan...
The prince said the only acceptable identification was the civil status card for Saudis and the iqama for non-Saudis.
Really, and why is that?
He said Saudi passports are sometimes issued to non-Saudis.
BINGO!!!
“The reason why they were given Saudi passports was to ease their travel abroad.”
For flights to the US, for example.
But in the Kingdom, the proper means of identification “is the iqama or the temporary card issued by the Passports Department,” Prince Naif said.
Hello, State Department? Anyone listening?
Posted by:Steve

#5  Sounds like a perfect time to round up everyone in the States under a soddi 'passport' and give them the boot. At least they should be considered 'persons of interest' and kept an eye on.

Of course, State will completely ignore this bombshell, it's not in their interests (as opposed to the security of the U.S.) to make an issue of this.
Posted by: 4thInfVet   2003-12-22 11:37:54 PM  

#4  Ship - yep. A little brown book that reads backwards, ala Arabeek. When you're in-kingdom (IK) to work on anything other than a biz visa (I think) you surrender your passport to your IK employer / sponsor (who is "responsible" for your behavior IK) and issued an Iqama. You are thus held hostage by your employer while your passport is locked up in his safe.

General info you guys might not already know...

Note that on my first foray to the Magic Kingdom I had to do this. Guys who were fed up (a not too surprisingly significant minority) would "request" a visa to Bahrain (no longer necessary on causeway exits) and the sponsor would get it and swap your passport for your Iqama. Then they would cross over to Bahrain, buy a ticket, and haul ass. I know people who slowly, over several trips over, took their most valued possessions across and left them with friends who lived in Bahrain and crossed over daily to work at Aramco. Once they had moved across what they cared about, they would just fly out and "abandon" their contract.

This makes sense if you have a rotten deal, a lousy "sponsor", or have just become fed up. BUT, you still have to beg your "sponsor" for your passport and have transportation across. Usually not a problem for US/CA/UK/EU types, due to the threat of relations problems with powerful countries, but for the others it can be a major problem because the "sponsor" only has to say NO and you're stopped cold with no hope... and this happens more often that most know. Deals get changed for some because the employer is connected and utterly unscrupulous - and there is no recourse and no escape.

It happens often enough to Pakis, Indis, Flips, etc. to generate serious sympathy from us Westerners who don't face the same probability of being screwed over by the Saudi flesh peddlers. Working for Aramco is one of the few positions that offers them some protection - they can complain there and be heard. Working for anyone else IK probably means you're a no-shit prisoner.

Brings new meaning to "wage slaves", no?
Posted by: .com   2003-12-22 10:46:06 PM  

#3  I read the headline, went 'eh?' and just shook my head.

Silly me, thinking a passport could be used to identify someone.
Posted by: Tony (UK)   2003-12-22 9:28:30 PM  

#2  I wonder if people can use any number of passports besides the iqama. Say a Kuwati one.
Posted by: Lucky   2003-12-22 7:56:18 PM  

#1  iqama

Is this the internal furriners passport?
Posted by: Shipman   2003-12-22 4:25:03 PM  

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